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This is a very important one, a political movement is defined as a organized social group operating to achieve a certain goal. MGTOW does not operate in such a manner. At it's very essence it's a bunch of guys who've adopted a new way of living life. They don't seek to change the status quo, but instead opt out of whatever society expects them to do.

2) MGTOWS are not just bitter men who cant get a date.

A lot of women think this is what MGTOW is all about. If this is you too, guess what? You're wrong. Some of the first MGTOWs were divorced men. Men stuck paying alimony to a cheating ex wife who divorced him. Men screwed over sideways in family courts for child custody. Then it spread to men in marriages who were downright miserable with the way their wives treated them. Then it spread to men in relationships that were fed up with the dating world and how they were expected to act, despite being taken advantage of by women. Some of these men have been in abusive relationships. Then finally is spread to the young single guys in their 20's.

It's not that MGTOWS cant get a date, they just don't want to. They've taken a good logical look at dating, marriage, and they way divorce courts treat them. At that point they decided to say “screw this i'm out”.

3) MGTOWS are not social hermits.

Females seem to think that a MGTOW is some guy living his mom's basement who refuses to leave and live life. In a Youtube video called ”Dear Men” by Alexanda Blue she mention that guys were isolating themselves from society. MGTOWS don't isolate themselves they just don’t conform to society. They have friends, they most definitely have hobbies, they have family, they have good jobs, and they have fun. Calling them hermits is seriously missing the mark.

4) MGTOW's are very content with their lifestyle.

They have good jobs, a lot of them have their own business. They have time and luxury to pursue dreams and hobbies. Since a lot of MGTOWS don't have to support a family, a lot of their money turns into disposable income. A lot of MGTOWS will tell you themselves that they live very peaceful, orderly lives. Which brings me to my next point

5) Insulting or shaming MGTOW does jack squat.

People who dislike MGTOW really can't seem to come to terms with this. All the time you the see them telling MGTOWS to “man up!” or say that they have “peter pan syndrome”. The reason why none of this works against a MGTOW is because you fail to see things the way the see it. To a MGTOW settling down means giving up all of your hobbies, your awesome life style, and pursuing your dreams, for a life of monotony. Even more so, “manning up” would mean entering in to a marriage where he could potentially lose at least half his assets (car, house, kids, etc.) in the event of a divorce. From a logical standpoint, trying to shame a MGTOW into settling down is pointless.

6)They're not all anti-feminist they just couldn't care less about women's rights, issues, etc.

Now, don't get me wrong some of MGTOWS are anti-feminist. The rest of them could just care less. If MRA's and feminists were to have a debate, MGTOWS wouldn't even bother to show up much less get out of bed. If you're trying to rally a MGTOW to some female social cause, don't bother.

7) Alot of MGTOW's avoid women all together.

Don't like being catcalled in the street? No problem, they wont catcall you. Hate being stared at the gym? Fine by them, they wont look. Don't liked being asked for your number in random places? Alrighty. You don't have to worry about a MGTOW doing any of these things. In fact a MGTOW won't even bother to look in your direction. A MGTOW will keep conversation with you to a minimum. What people forget that this is a double edge sword. Having a guy buy you drinks at a bar? Nope! Taking you out to a nice expensive dinner and picking up the tab? Nope! Taking you for a ride on his motorcycle or in his sports car? Guess again. Casual flirting? I think not. The majority of men, are single yet off-the-market. Especially in a society where a guy in one false rape accusation or sexual harassment case away from a jail sentience.

8) MGTOW is growing.

From 2009-2015 MGTOW went from being a obscure movement to the largest wing of the “man-o-sphere”. Today, there a numerous blogs, forums, and Youtube channels that are devoted to MGTOW philosophy. Do a simple google search for MGTOW and see for yourself.

9) If you want to stop this growth you have to change what causes men to go their own way.

If MGTOW's growth is alarming to you then you're going to have to change what causes them to go MGTOW. Which means change the divorce courts, the attack on masculinity, the institution of marriage, social expectations on men, etc. Things such as shaming them, calling them “man-boys”, having white-knights attack them, and other methods will do nothing to stop this growth. The problem people have with this is that to a certain degree they are going to have to assign blame to themselves (* cough* straw feminists). They're are many honest reasons a man will go his own way, just ask one.

10) MGTOWS are not afraid of being alone.

When I talked about MGTOW to a female friend, she asked “Aren't they afraid of being lonely ?” The answer to this question was no. To a MGTOW, being alone does not mean being lonely. He may not have a girlfriend or a wife but he still have friends, family, and his hobbies to keep him occupied. A MGTOW has no need for female companionship. >

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You just said 'some people on this sub' and all of the sudden 'the sub is dedicated to hating women'? Which one is it?

Dont blame MGTOW, the philosophy, with some individuals interpretation of it.

MGTOW says: women and society are bullshit. Do whats best for you. finito. All points here revolve around showing how women are bs and society is bs.

You ought to read this;

1) MGTOW is more of a philosophy on how to live life instead of a movement.

This is a very important one, a political movement is defined as a organized social group operating to achieve a certain goal. MGTOW does not operate in such a manner. At it's very essence it's a bunch of guys who've adopted a new way of living life. They don't seek to change the status quo, but instead opt out of whatever society expects them to do.

2) MGTOWS are not just bitter men who cant get a date.

A lot of women think this is what MGTOW is all about. If this is you too, guess what? You're wrong. Some of the first MGTOWs were divorced men. Men stuck paying alimony to a cheating ex wife who divorced him. Men screwed over sideways in family courts for child custody. Then it spread to men in marriages who were downright miserable with the way their wives treated them. Then it spread to men in relationships that were fed up with the dating world and how they were expected to act, despite being taken advantage of by women. Some of these men have been in abusive relationships. Then finally is spread to the young single guys in their 20's.

It's not that MGTOWS cant get a date, they just don't want to. They've taken a good logical look at dating, marriage, and they way divorce courts treat them. At that point they decided to say “screw this i'm out”.

3) MGTOWS are not social hermits.

Females seem to think that a MGTOW is some guy living his mom's basement who refuses to leave and live life. In a Youtube video called ”Dear Men” by Alexanda Blue she mention that guys were isolating themselves from society. MGTOWS don't isolate themselves they just don’t conform to society. They have friends, they most definitely have hobbies, they have family, they have good jobs, and they have fun. Calling them hermits is seriously missing the mark.

4) MGTOW's are very content with their lifestyle.

They have good jobs, a lot of them have their own business. They have time and luxury to pursue dreams and hobbies. Since a lot of MGTOWS don't have to support a family, a lot of their money turns into disposable income. A lot of MGTOWS will tell you themselves that they live very peaceful, orderly lives. Which brings me to my next point

5) Insulting or shaming MGTOW does jack squat.

People who dislike MGTOW really can't seem to come to terms with this. All the time you the see them telling MGTOWS to “man up!” or say that they have “peter pan syndrome”. The reason why none of this works against a MGTOW is because you fail to see things the way the see it. To a MGTOW settling down means giving up all of your hobbies, your awesome life style, and pursuing your dreams, for a life of monotony. Even more so, “manning up” would mean entering in to a marriage where he could potentially lose at least half his assets (car, house, kids, etc.) in the event of a divorce. From a logical standpoint, trying to shame a MGTOW into settling down is pointless.

6)They're not all anti-feminist they just couldn't care less about women's rights, issues, etc.

Now, don't get me wrong some of MGTOWS are anti-feminist. The rest of them could just care less. If MRA's and feminists were to have a debate, MGTOWS wouldn't even bother to show up much less get out of bed. If you're trying to rally a MGTOW to some female social cause, don't bother.

7) Alot of MGTOW's avoid women all together.

Don't like being catcalled in the street? No problem, they wont catcall you. Hate being stared at the gym? Fine by them, they wont look. Don't liked being asked for your number in random places? Alrighty. You don't have to worry about a MGTOW doing any of these things. In fact a MGTOW won't even bother to look in your direction. A MGTOW will keep conversation with you to a minimum. What people forget that this is a double edge sword. Having a guy buy you drinks at a bar? Nope! Taking you out to a nice expensive dinner and picking up the tab? Nope! Taking you for a ride on his motorcycle or in his sports car? Guess again. Casual flirting? I think not. The majority of men, are single yet off-the-market. Especially in a society where a guy in one false rape accusation or sexual harassment case away from a jail sentience.

8) MGTOW is growing.

From 2009-2015 MGTOW went from being a obscure movement to the largest wing of the “man-o-sphere”. Today, there a numerous blogs, forums, and Youtube channels that are devoted to MGTOW philosophy. Do a simple google search for MGTOW and see for yourself.

9) If you want to stop this growth you have to change what causes men to go their own way.

If MGTOW's growth is alarming to you then you're going to have to change what causes them to go MGTOW. Which means change the divorce courts, the attack on masculinity, the institution of marriage, social expectations on men, etc. Things such as shaming them, calling them “man-boys”, having white-knights attack them, and other methods will do nothing to stop this growth. The problem people have with this is that to a certain degree they are going to have to assign blame to themselves (* cough* straw feminists). They're are many honest reasons a man will go his own way, just ask one.

10) MGTOWS are not afraid of being alone.

When I talked about MGTOW to a female friend, she asked “Aren't they afraid of being lonely ?” The answer to this question was no. To a MGTOW, being alone does not mean being lonely. He may not have a girlfriend or a wife but he still have friends, family, and his hobbies to keep him occupied. A MGTOW has no need for female companionship. >

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[–]Yakzi1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Normal doesnt mean right. You can try to defend it all you want.

I think you are against anyone criticising women and minorities in anyway. Any criticism is hate speech, unless its by them.

What the left are saying about Trump is exponentially worse than what the right say about the left. But somehow to you the left is the victim.

What feminists and women in general say about men is exponentially worse than what mgtows say about women - kill, castrate, lobotomize, all men; men are antiquated and so on. But somehow to you, the feminists and womem are the victims.

Believe me, if mgtows or men somewhere start saying kill, castrate, lobotomize, all women; women are antiquated and so on, the world of media will be in arms like its WW3 and the protest will be untenable.

The reason you dont see that is because mgtows or men anywhere dont say that. What I mean by that is never in even a minor organised way. If we did, you'd know.

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You’ve become so obsessed with differences, gender, right and left that you seem to have retreated from a balanced society. No one is saying kill catstrate whatever. You are someone with an extreme views looking at opposing extreme views and basing your judgements and politics off of that. I assume that’s why you like trump. He’s an extremist, with a more than shady history with women/girls and corruption.

The thing is this isn’t about politics. It’s about a group of people with extreme views who have retreated from a healthy society - you’ve retreated from common sense. The comments and posts on here, the donald and other at right subs show this decline of a radical group of people in real time. It’s like watching a cult in real time. It’s sad to see people so obsessed with a narrative that is so far from the truth.

I have a wonderful relationship with both men and women. It never comes into my mind about differences. I cannot for the life of me understand obsessive hate for anyone (gender, sex, race, identity). It does not make sense.

When your time on this planet is up, will any of your views truly matter? Or will they be forgotten into oblivion? Maybe remember where you are?

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...obsessed with differences, gender, right and left that you seem to have retreated from a balanced society. No one is saying kill catstrate whatever. You are someone with an extreme views looking at opposing extreme views and basing your judgements and politics off of that.

The only people 'obsessed' with gender, race, sexuality and so on IS THE LEFT. Don't you see what' on the news? The Left are crazy about immigrants, abortion, trans, and all sorts of sort.

The left is the one obsessed with race, sex and all these shit. Beto had to apologise just this May for 'His Privilege Of Being White'. Can you imagine that? Apologise for your race?

All the 'white' bashing is from the left.

The whole 'privilege' argument about how people of color are somehow more honorable than white people and dont need to 'acknowledge their privilege' is from the left.

The whole slavery and reparations talk is from the left. This is everyday talk for the left now.

I cannot for the life of me understand obsessive hate for anyone (gender, sex, race, identity).

Say in your community there is a rise in crime of knife stabbings like London, are you an obsessive hater for talking much about the criminals, how they are, what to look for, places to avoid and how to be safe from them?

The trans and gender identity people are the ones holding protests and drawing attention to themselves. No one ever asked them who they were fucking or what they have under their skirts. They came out in public screaming it. When no one batted an eye they proceeded to start pushing for laws about pronouns and all kinds of bs. I have trans and gay friends. They never go out screaming and trying to get attention. We hang out, have drinks and do fun stuff together. They never tell me what to call them or how I should be around them - safe spaces, microagression and all that crap.

I dont give jack squat what anyone choose to be or who they choose to fuck. I care when they come into my life and try to make say things.

HAve you ever seen a MGTOW protest or demand changes in law or social nomrs? We are not MRA. We dont go after women for sex or relationship or anything. We are not PUAs. We get

We say we dont like what we see and have decided to check out. Change the laws or dont, we dont give jack squat about it.

And then the feminists come here to say 'Hey you are alt right misogynistic woman hater'? For syaing I'll do what I want, I dont give a goddamn anymore.

Feminists have been bashing men for Gods knows how long. Just try this for a change: flip everything feminists have been saying about men the other way round. Toxic masculinity, violence, patriarchy, abuse, shameful, rapists, murderers.... That would be bashing.

Saying women cheat, will divorce and take half your shit, your kids and home, saying women are promiscuous during their 20s and then try to get married in their 30s are not bashing.

They are LITERAL truths.

In the case of divorce, its quite literally just citing the law.

In the case of cheating and promiscuity, the women themselves write about that complaining 'Where are all the good men'.

I have a wonderful relationship with both men and women.

I have wonderful relationship with men. I relate on the minimum with women. Thats my choice. NO chance for false rape, harassment or assault allegations - ergo I dont want to be in Kavanaugh's shoes. Or are these are false as well? They dont happen?

Just like you would go about talking in groups about chracteristics of murderers, sociopaths and psychopaths and why you should stay away from them, we do the same for women.

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You seem like a very black and white driven person. You seem to be someone with a need to be on a side, not to be an individual. You go on about the left, yet you engage and complain about the same things, from an equally extreme perspective. You’ve allowed yourself to become engrossed by disproportionate online debate and rhetoric to the point you think it’s that simple. You think a hashtag to be more important than it is. Most of these online debates are fuelled by bots and are aimed at people like you.

So, you’ve joined a side, in this case an apparent group about going your own way? Yet most of the posts here just go on about women = bad. I feel like if you turned off your internet and just engaged in local communities, sports, volunteering, you’ll find most of the rhetoric online - whether it be on this sub, or the Donald - is inaccurate and blows things way out of proportion. That most of the rhetoric artificially inflates the true reality of the situations you are so angry about. The truth is reality is more complex than what a targeted meme will have you think.

Or you could continue to browse these subs, listen to what the bots say and hate who they tell you to hate. Continue watching ‘gotcha YouTube videos’ about owning the libs and muddle your perception of reality. It’s a sure way to spiral further into extremism.

At the end of it all, it’s not going to matter. Reality exists on a larger scale outside of these groups. Time will pass, and so will you; extreme views become a footnote in history in which people reflect upon and analyse psychologically.

[–]Yakzi1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You seem like a very black and white driven person. You seem to be someone with a need to be on a side, not to be an individual. You go on about the left, yet you engage and complain about the same things, from an equally extreme perspective.

There is a new saying now: The left has swung so far t the extreme left that the right is more lefty nowadays. They paint everything so dark that even grey looks white compared to them.

Look at the massive propaganda onslaught from the media and hollywood. I am not at all extreme n my ideas. The extremity of th eleft makes anyone opposed to them look far extreme as well. For instance, wesaying 'Women do have legal advantage over men in terms of marriageand divorce' makes you think we are extremists because all you have been hearing from media and movies are: Patriarchy, women are violently oppressed, there is a rape culture, women are powerless in this society. That makes our very direct argument of just mentioning what the law says look extreme because you would think 'these guys are nuts, how can they say these about this victim women who just trying to liberate themselves'. Same with the arguments about transexuals and gender identity. You say 'Look, I just to not be forced to say thinks by someone just like I dont force anyone to say another thing to me', all of a sudden 'Reeeeeeeeeee transphobe'.

You’ve allowed yourself to become engrossed by disproportionate online debate and rhetoric to the point you think it’s that simple. You think a hashtag to be more important than it is. Most of these online debates are fuelled by bots and are aimed at people like you.

I m quite capable of discerning bs and logic when I hear one. I could say the above to you. Besides hashtags are mainly used by the left. The only thing disproportionate in online debates is the systematic mass silencing of not just conservatives but ANYONE who digresses even a bit from the left's propaganda. Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, Patreon and so much.

That alone says who is being brainwashed online. You, not me. Because almost all online forums debates now are only pro left. Only pro left arguments are allowed. Anything but is booted off.

Yet most of the posts here just go on about women = bad. I feel like if you turned off your internet and just engaged in local communities, sports, volunteering, you’ll find most of the rhetoric online - whether it be on this sub, or the Donald - is inaccurate and blows things way out of proportion. That most of the rhetoric artificially inflates the true reality of the situations you are so angry about. The truth is reality is more complex than what a targeted meme will have you think.

And alcoholics talk about alcohol. And cancer patients about cancer. And I dont need a meme. I can just as well read divorce casesi look the statistics, read womens comments about how they destroyed their SO after cheating on him, how they have had so much sex and now want a nice guy, how they want only a guy 6 ft tall and rich. And I COULD JUST AS WELL READ NICOLAS CAGE'S WIFE ASKING FOR ALIMONY AFTER DIVORCING HIM AFTER JUST 4 DAYS OF MARRıAGE. Believe meI see enough without even searchng.

Men Going Their Own Way. From what and why? From women and society. Why because men have been relegated to woker drones. Only useful for what they produce and earn, which is earnestly expropriated via taxes. Men are net payers of taxes, women are net benefactors of public spending - more health programs for women, subsidized women in special courses and places in universities, subsidized and free housing for single mothers and so on. The continued men bashing by governments and women has made men rethink their place in society. Why in the world should I continue to engage in a society that deems me toxic, rapey and a burden. Okay. Have it your way. Talking about women here is like talking at an AA meeting: okay guys these bitches have the law on their side, they know it. They will feign assault and take your money, house and kids away.' Like I wrote earlier, bashing women is: women are toxic, we should kill all of them, we should lobotomize them to remove their toxicity hich comes from their emotions, we should permanently remove their wombs so they cant create more toxic females, we ban them from mae spaces becuase they are toxic we should make sex services from them enforceable by or they pay tax, we should extract and store their eggs and then kill them all. THAT IS BASHING.

MGTOWs just say: they have the law on their side and use it to ruin men, they use the inherent favor towards women to lie against men, women can le about pills and get pregnant where you are forced to ay up, she can divorce you and take your hard earned money, she is incentivized to cheat because no one will blame her so avoid anything to do with her. Now compare that to the prvious, then tell me which is bashing.

You are labeling CRITICISM as BASHING.

Time will pass, and so will you; extreme views become a footnote in history

Surely. But while am here, I will not kowtow to leftist extremety. I can surely discern bs without anyone pushing it on me.

The left's extreme views will indeed become a footnote in history. Their Fascist clamp down on the Internet will not succeed. Hooktube, Subscribestar and Bitchute will replace Youtube, Twitteri Facebook and Patreon. And one day, they wil be judged for the sin of fascism and ideological demagogery.

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All you can talk about is the left, divorce etc. Normal people are not this obsessed with these things. Again, you’ve allowed yourself to become radicalised by online divisions and anecdotal evidence that supports the side you have chosen. I’m sure people on the extreme opposite can find similar anecdotal evidence to support their beliefs as well.

Life isn’t about some battle between left and right, men and women, white or poc. I’m sure the extreme left sees people on the extreme right the exact same. You are a victim of targeted propaganda that is trying to cause division. Most of the shit on the Donald or on this sub is posted by bots, professional trolls in Russian offices.

Take a step back and remember how ridiculous such obsessions are. In the grand scale of the planet you are lucky enough to exist upon, is this extremist behaviour truly worth your only time? 7 billion people are on this planet, to define yourself to some extreme minority is a true waste of life. I hope you can overcome this.

[–]Yakzi1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Normal people are not this obsessed with these things

I am not obsessed. Its called staying informed. BTW, I have searched up, down and sideways for 'anecdotal' evidence from the left. Since you seem to know somethings that I clearly don't,

whats the evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that divorce is good overall, and for men in particular?
Whats the evidence, logical, that all the hysteria around pronouns, trnas people, gender identity, and sexuality?
Why is asking to be left the hell alone too much to ask? Let me say what i want to say, if you dont like it, then dont listen or dont watch it or dont read it.
since when is asking questions obsessed?
who ask more questions and troll MGTOW? Non MGTOWs, women. feminists, simps and so on.
Who is talking about trump day and night? democrats. Just last week, he was talking MExico and border, they were talking trump, hearings on the hill and impeachment.

I am not obsessed. I like to ask pertinent questions, and the fact that you dont says more about you than me. trying to change laws and shape society in some liberal image affects me, directly.

BTW i am not a minority. being MGTOW is being a minority of 1. Doing things your OWN way. the fact that you think being in minority is somehow bad indicates you think i and others should just not ask questions and join the herd.

[–]Thotmas_prime1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Evidence for something as personal as divorce? You simply cannot look externally at the scale of the question you are asking. There is no easy answer. Again, 7 billion people on this planet, with millions, of instances of good, bad or moderate.

Hysteria? You’re looking at a small group of fighting between extreme sides. This is not reality for the majority of people.

It’s fine to be left alone. But when you make an effort to spread the kind of shit you do, it stops being about ‘being left alone.’ If you wanted solitary you wouldn’t seek to spread extremism.

What the fuck is a simp? The fact you utilise to many defining names indicates your obsession with division, and choosing a side.

People talk about trump - left, right, moderate and the extremes. They talk about him because some like his immorality and others are disgusted by him.

Your image just becomes more defined as an obsessive, extremist who has chosen to see the world on a very small scale.

[–]Yakzi1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Evidence for something as personal as divorce?

evidence for something as personal as misogyny or rape or murder? these can all be classified as more personal than divorce in more than one way.

There is no easy answer. Again, 7 billion people on this planet, with millions, of instances of good, bad or moderate.

Well, we certainly know Iran, Saudi Arabia, China execute people, not to forget NK. half of Africa are starving, and FGM, the polite word chosen by feminists and the left, is as wide as circumcision. Women in Saudi Arabia just gained the right to drive. POlygamy is prevalent in most place in Asia and Africa. 7 billion, billions oppressed, billions starving, billions jobles, billions without health insurance.

You wanna talk global, thats what. BUt i am not here to solve the worlds problem. only those that affect me. Am selfish/ yeah, and so is everyone else. i dont see you trying to solve saudi arabia's problem. I dont see African protesting about things I care about. So NO. Everyone cares about stuff important to them - good, bad or moderate.

Hysteria? You’re looking at a small group of fighting between extreme sides. This is not reality for the majority of people.

small infighting? ON MSM? Really? I gotta say I have never seen a small infighting being paraded this long by all MSM with active censorship of anything bUT.

It’s fine to be left alone. But when you make an effort to spread the kind of shit you do, it stops being about ‘being left alone.’ If you wanted solitary you wouldn’t seek to spread extremism.

Have you ever seen any MGTOW ad? or protest? or trolling in other subs or ANYWHERE going like; "Go MGTOW you misANDrists". As a matter of fact, even on this sub, we advise people to NOT try to convert people,. MGTOW is a discovery journey. Either you find it or not. no conversion. NO amount of talking and explaining will make anyone MGTOW. But the feminists and mRAs still come here to troll us. WTF? And you think WE are spreading extermism?

What the fuck is a simp? The fact you utilise to many defining names indicates your obsession with division, and choosing a side.

You dont know what a SIMP is but you know so much about MGTOW to call it extremist? Come on.

People talk about trump - left, right, moderate and the extremes. They talk about him because some like his immorality and others are disgusted by him.

Please try discerning HOW and WHAT they say about him.

Your image just becomes more defined as an obsessive,

My image is that of an astute observer that can dry a clear line between all the hysteria going on. Yours is that of a genereliser.

Extremist who has chosen to see the world on a very small scale.

Nothing sayas small smallscale like your arguments. You dont even specify what your arguments are based on.

Come on now, i have engaged you for so long. DOnt be a bore. Be real. NOt imaginary.

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Title	How to know you are doing something right >>>
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