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[–]Chaos199020 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There should be an early exit plan for men, pay her enough to get an abortion, give up all parental rights and obligations.
Pretty sure it will never happen, buy hey, a man can dream.
[–]EnslavedOpethFan0536 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why I'm pro life. If a man can't get out of it then a woman shouldn't be able to either.
Your body your choice? My wallet my choice.
[–]MythicalKnightz6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I only agree with half of it because I don't fuck wumanz,
Nah I'm joking I'll fuck anyone if I feel like it.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More like ‘her body’ when she wants to kill the foetus. Not a second thought is given to the body inside her. Most women are inherent narcissists.
[–]3rdiguy4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FACTS
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Don't fuck women in order to fuck feminism.
FTFY
Also, if anyone wants to feel more disgusted, go to r/AskFeminists and search for "bow out", "financial abortion", "legal surrender", "paternal surrender' or variations thereof. They find ways to try and justify this imbalance. They either use linguistic tricks, strawman out the opposition or use biology but only when convenient. Every single time.
[–]RealBiggly1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yep. I'm happy to try and debate the topic but the 2-faced hypocritical BULLSHIT just makes me want to resort to violence. This and mutilating little boy's dick's are the only 2 subjects that do that to me but yeah, I literally find my right fist clenching.
Talking of that exact thing - and possibly because of that exact thing - how's about we flip it right back, this "biology is destiny" and "you don't have to give birth" stuff?
After all, as a man I'm bigger, faster, stronger - so rape is OK, right? You know, biology?
And hey, domestic violence against women? So what? I mean, if you don't like the cards nature dealt you, argue with nature, right? Nature says I get to punch you in the head, because muscle-mass, great reach and bone density. Maybe it's not fair but it's just the way nature made us, huh?
And hey, you gave me something to eat once? So I can crap on your sofa. After all, you knew when you put food in me there was a risk of some shit coming out, right? My ass, my choice, and I choose to shit on your sofa. I know it's not convenient and will really mess things up for you, but it was ME that had to carry that turd around INSIDE ME! I had to BIRTH the turd, out of my ASS! So I get to choose your sofa. And then you have to pay me money every month, because I had a crap from food that YOU gave to me!
I could go on I guess but you get the idea...
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep. I'm happy to try and debate the topic but the 2-faced hypocritical BULLSHIT just makes me want to resort to violence.
Lol, yeah. I went there to see how they rationalize and justify this. I thought I had seen enough so I would not get annoyed by feminists, but I guess I underestimated them. I am the deleted username here. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/bqgg7i/should_men_be_able_to_bow_out/
One thing I noticed though is that a LOT of those 'feminists' were basically either actual trannies (with all the Hormonal Replacement Therapy goodness that comes along with it) and/or advocating for socialism (closet communists). Which means they are hypocritical, stupid and also literally messed up in the head.
The only logical and reasonable people on there turned out to be guys who were not willing to classify themselves as feminists but more on the egalitarian side. What a surprise.
It's just pointless talking to women, feminists and trannies.
[–]RealBiggly1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cheers but I'm not going there to read it. My blood pressure and stress levels don't need it :)
[–]ElMatador_330 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck them kids. Some of you simps love crying over dead fetuses. Shows me your true colors... youre not real MGTOWs.
[–]LordGayoftheSevenDic-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We'll have to kill babies after they exit the wound to stop paying child support
[–]SexCoachSarah-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This one is a bit of a false equivalency, no?
Because on the basis of the argument in this tweet (i.e. a fetus is already a person and therefore abortion is murder), wouldn't the logical deduction be that, actually, child support payments therefore must begin from the moment of conception?
Feels to me really that there's several separate things going on, and there'd be a great benefit to separating them out.
One the one hand, there is abortion. That's a medical procedure that most people misunderstand because it gets so moralized and devisive in society. On the whole, most people regardless of gender are idiots in understanding how conception, gestation, and reproduction actually work. Human apes are kind of fucked up in this respect.
Another thing is whether you consider a zygote or a fetus a person. I don't, but I understand that some people might. And for those that do, actually I don't think a lot of them are logically consistent about it, like in this guy's tweet.
And a third thing is the issue of child support and how we as a society approach solving this problem. Coz, like, if you want a new generation of tax payers in the future, then some poor sods have to do the dirty, thankless, undervalued work of raising people. A better answer here might be not making it is responsibility so much of individual bioparents but rather making it a social responsibility - i.e. we're all going to need future laborers, so let's collectively bear the burden, with more of it falling on the mega corporations who benefit the most from a fresh supply of new workers. Universal Basic Income would sort this out and a lot of tech giants already support it. UBI would end the need for child support payments - a person who is born would receive a UBI and voila.
Last point is that it's about goddamn time we get more contraceptive options for men and get better sexuality education available to everyone as a human right. Seriously, it is not fair or just that men aren't well taught how to control their own fertility. You've basically got condoms or vasectomy that are within men's control. That's it. A birth control pill or injection for men would be absolutely revolutionary in this regard.
Lot's of emotions here, gents. Let's keep it logical and consistent.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
No, the point of this tweet is that why can a woman evade responsibility but a man is forced into responsibility? Why can women say no to a baby but a man can’t ? Why is the financial burden of a child is placed solely on the father and not also on the mother regardless of any situation or regardless of who still wants the baby in the end ?
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