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[–]Thebigstill97 points98 points99 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
This is me. Raised feminist, believe in autonomy for all, think abortion is great for population control... tired of being told all men are trash. Good luck with your fight Women. I mean that. But I'm done.
[–]DangZagnut59 points60 points61 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Not my battle, not my problem. I am pro-abortion because who cares, but they don’t want my help, money, or unlimited time, so they don’t get it. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest.
I certainly wouldn’t vote based on something easily preventable.
[–]carninja6818 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I used to be pro abortion in limited situations like if the parent can’t afford a child. I’m still pro choice in cases of rape and incest. Actual rape not regret sex rape. Now after them trying to normalize abortion I am fervently against it except in those two cases (which are extremely low percentages)
I think women should have to live with consequences of their actions if they decide to not be on birth control or have sex without a condom if they aren’t ready to have a kid.
[–]RealBiggly7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, it's not the kid's fault if it was rape. Underaged boys raped by adult women still have to pay child support to their rapist because it's in the best interest of the (smaller) child. Besides, such a get-out clause will just create fake rape accusations.
No exceptions except a medical emergency.
[–]carninja682 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s why I said actual rape and not the modern definition of rape.
I know it’s not the kids fault
[–]RealBiggly3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even if actual rape, no exceptions.
Again, not the kids fault and you'd just create false accusations.
No exceptions.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Abortion is a really ugly topic. While I'm pro-choice, it's an ambivalent and reluctant view I have.
There are a lot of the societal advantages of abortion -- particularly lower crime rates -- but despite being an atheist and generally amoral (in a universal sense), I don't think the ends justifying the means is a good argument.
My real concern with abortion is the reflection it creates on a society as a whole. I personally find it hard to believe that a healthy fetus isn't a person, at least by the point it could technically be viable outside the womb, which means in a lot of cases abortion can be considered sanctioned murder. This also has a legal precedent since killing a mother and the fetus is generally considered a double murder -- meaning the fetus itself is considered a human.
In the end, as distasteful as it is to me, I still side on the pro-choice perspective (and think Roe v. Wade is a pretty good compromise for an ugly topic), but like the meme shows, I'm not gonna weigh in and if women have abortions outlawed, IDGAF because it's not my problem.
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[–]ArabattaCrumb5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Tell that to all the kids already in the foster/care system waiting to be adopted?
[–]VadeRetroLupa3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I kind of think two wrongs don’t make a right. How about we ask the kid when it’s old enough what they think about it?
“So Timmy, turns out your father is also your uncle. Also you do cost a lot of money. Do you have any idea how much it cost to feed and clothe you? Well, we think this is wrong and therefore we would like to kill you if you don’t mind? What do you say?“
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
But your paying for it with your taxes
[–]DangZagnut10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My taxes pay for the U.S. nuclear arsenal.
Besides they’re just going to waste it on something stupid anyway. It’s not like they care about fiscal discipline. Abortions are so much more important that conservative economic principles apparently.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My taxes pay for the U.K Trident nuclear deterrent ( very cool and scares the willies out of the Argies ) .. that dont mean that I am cool with the Thots wasting my money
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
same. still pro because we need population control badly, but yeah, after seeing protests of angry women FURIOUS over not being able to kill their babies, it just leads a bad taste in my mouth. abortion should be legal but they should be rare because women have some fucking self respect. not going to hold my breathe on that one.
[–]amazinglyaloneracist7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The west is below replacement rates of births. It's not about population control when not enough babies are being born to sustain the economy.
Blame mass illegal immigration and refugees for the flood of low skilled people in the west.
The only areas of the world for the most part that need population control are the third world countries that have women poop out 7 children by seven different fathers while they can't even feed or house themselves.
[–]No_Weekend0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you could justify it if it didn't consistently lead to trauma symptoms. It just seems like it's a way to harm vulnerable women, and make most women miserable and entitled.
[–]Aguyandamoose28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am reliably informed that, due to possession of a penis, I am not allowed to have an opinion. So I don't care. Not my fucking problem.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The funny thing is that many women complained on socials that no men talked about it (i guess SJWs are not considered men)
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They're not.
[–]carninja6811 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep Blue pill Simps aren’t considered men in their eyes but rather tools and wallets
[–]Machomuk8916 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly this, I'm Libertarian so I do support abortion rights but seeing as how these bans affect me in absolutely zero ways (especially after mgtow), I'm just keeping my head down and mouth shut about this, since I have no uterus right?
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hands you popcorn. No reason we can't enjoy the show, right?
This is me too. No longer pro choice until I get one.
[–]RealBiggly5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry to be a paste monkey, but as I just posted: I used to support abortion. Having a child forced upon you when too young and not ready is a terrible thing. However the total disregard and worse coming from women and feminists over MEN'S post-sex choice has turned me the entirely other way.
Abortion? No. Should have kept your legs closed, takes 2 to tango, you knew you could have a baby when you chose to have sex, woman up and take responsibility.
No, no exceptions. Raped? I don't care, it's not about the mother, it's about the best interests of the child.
Any questions?
[–]Finland_Four6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
feminist:
- shits on men constantly
- wants men to help, shames men who don't help
I take great comfort in staying silent and watching the fireworks.
[–]escalover7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
BUT MUH BODILY AUTONOMY
Choose not to have sex.
[–]RealBiggly4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to support abortion. Having a child forced upon you when too young and not ready is a terrible thing. However the total disregard and worse coming from women and feminists over MEN'S post-sex choice has turned me the entirely other way.
No, no exceptions. Raped? I don't care, it's about the best interests of the child.
[–]Twistypete4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Someday all the feminists and SJWs are going to look up to the Supreme Court and shout "Save us!"
And Justice Kavanaugh will look down and whisper "No"
[–]Throwthe88273 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kermit, the voice of reason of the modern world! Who would have thought?
[–]lulz3r2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty much my stance of the whole matter. I’m sure they’ll figure it out or not. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest.
[–]boy_named_su2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Y'all are some humorous motherfuckers
[–]hakoonamatata92 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No uterus no give a shit.
[–]RedMeatTrinket1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I don't have a choice, why should anyone else have a choice?
[–]HiImIncel1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All these abortionists need to be hanged for murder.
[–]VoteRepublicanAgain0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or just be pro life. If you’re going to be pro choice then at least only support abortion during the zygote stage, nothing past that because then it’s definitely murder.
[–]roflcopt0rz_returns0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But women DO tell you that you have a say...
but ONLY if you agree with them!
[–]RPDunkleBomb0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup pretty much.
I got a vasectomy so the whole pregnancy and abortion debate doesn't really apply to me. I don't really care what society and the law chooses as right, and after being told I'm a pig and privileged, I could really give two fucks about their plight.
[–]vermonner0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Youre a Man, you cant have an opinion, unless of of course, it supports what I want"
Why I go my own way
[–]DeathtotheCavalry0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If the Casey case is overruled (male choice in abortion), then welfare payments for having more kids can blocked too. Not sure if this will have standing at the supreme court depending on the petition.
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