Personal opinion: i don’t think you can/should be mgtow if you’re a virgin

bacon_and_3ggs · 2019-04-05T22:06:57+00:00

OP you're wrong.

Average people learn from their own mistakes...smart men learn from the mistakes of others. You and me we learned by putting our hand on the burner...we got burned. Virgin mgtows learned from either listening, or watching idiots like you and me putting our hand on the burner.

Virgins who are mgtow are smarter than you, or me. Because they've learned from the mistakes of others.

I'm jealous of them. I wish I had the red pill knowledge when I was still a virgin.

strongandhappy · 2019-04-05T22:17:33+00:00

Bullshit. One, it's not up to you. Two, it's a lifestyle and philosophy, not a club with an initiation. While losing virginity may help some men get over the mystique and move on with their lives, there's absolutely no reason every man can't accept pursuing women is a dangerous endeavor before getting involved in any way. And personally, I think your idea of "depriving yourself experience with women" is also garbage thinking that comes from pedestaling women. Men are far superior company and friends.

Phantom_Spark · 2019-04-05T22:17:51+00:00

The op is a fool. Men should respect themselves enough to not just say yes to a woman because she’s interested. A lot of men’s problems wouldn’t occur if they valued themselves more. Too many men put themselves into situations to be taken advantage of.

The Op is a fool. You would never apply this logic to other situations that have the potential to have a huge impact on your life. Instead you would advise the person to be as well prepared as possible.

One doesn’t need to be burned by a woman to learn the lesson. I want to see less young boys in jail, defrauded and dead because of women.

Make your own choices. That’s the message of MGTOW. Stand up for yourself, educate yourself, value your time and what you put into life. You won’t get a second chance. So make the most of it!

Vaxel00 · 2019-04-05T22:14:20+00:00

I understand you don’t wanna be accused of rape blah blah blah

Minimizing life destroying events doesn't make them less life destroying.

DangZagnut · 2019-04-05T22:06:33+00:00

I’ve never been married or divorced but I’ve managed to avoid it for years. Can I be Mgtow?

ohgodohgodnoplease · 2019-04-05T22:08:50+00:00

You don't need to be a divorcee to know that marriage is a terrible deal.

jkarovskaya · 2019-04-05T22:19:16+00:00

I can watch someone get hit by a car on Youtube, and see that it hurts like hell, can put you in the hospital or kill you.

I can learn from that video, and other people's experience

Same for MGTOW, virgin or not, you don't have to go through the pain, suffering, financial insanity, and legal nightmare of divorce to find out you shouldn't have married someone

mvlock · 2019-04-05T22:22:09+00:00

I dont think its positive experience enuf to make the effort to be in relationship And the learning from it is mostly i think is after the " war" is ended cos then u will be able to analyze it better

But anyway i dont disagree

ohgodohgodnoplease · 2019-04-05T22:31:03+00:00

I get what you’re saying, OP. Having experience with women is beneficial to GYOW. But at the same time, there are no rules so if someone wants to GTOW without that, it’s completely fine. To the virgins, I would advise experience with women is a wise thing to have. It does build character and give you conviction as to your choices.

PrinceRaj53 · 2019-04-05T22:47:22+00:00

As expected. First question from my side, why are you acting like a woman?

Anyways.

If you’re a virgin and you’re embracing MGTOW it means you have no experience with woman.

Trust me, "Bruh", as a teenager and a virgin, I have more than enough experience with women. That's why I am a virgin at 18, because sticking my dick in crazy is not my thing at all.

You’ve never been in a relationship so the only thing you know about woman is really coming from online and what people are telling you.

Ever heard of social lives? School, college, social circles? No? Trust me bub, women of my generation are openly whoring around. There are more than necessary evidence in real life that turns us off. Besides, I dont want to betray my fellow man by having sex with his girl. Whats the difference between me and a woman then? Gotta keep my dignity intact, for myself. Unlike the west, some other countries have men who have certain principles in their life. They take self respect, dignity and principles seriously. I'm one of them. Thats is one of the main reasons.

You haven’t come to your own mgtow type conclusion based on your personal experience.

Smart men learn from their mistakes, wise men learn from other men's mistakes. Being a wise asshole is better than a smart "men" who got cucked and then realised the truth about red pill and female nature.

You’ve never been burned by a woman, only heard of a woman burning men other than you

So? In order to know how dangerous fire is, you have to put your hand into it? What kind of logic is that?

In my opinion relationship experience is fucking required to be a mgtow

Yes, in your opinion. Thanks, opinion taken. But, still, I'm not gonna stick my dick in crazy just to know the stuff I already know. Thank you.

But how can you just accept an idea like MGTOW without literally ever experiencing woman? Wtf??

Wisdom. Knowledge. A functioning brain with a gut that tells me the right thing at the right time. And lastly, self control.

Don’t deprive yourself of experiencing woman and sex if you’re young, just play it smart.

Sure. But I dont have time for verbal diarrhea and constant bullshit. I have a life full of things to do, goals to achieve and improvments to make by practising stuff (for example, brahmacharya, tao te ching, etc, just to name a few). Maybe later in life, but not now. I put my effort in something that gives me some benefit. Sex is not a benefit. Its a temporary pleasure that can become a pain in the ass.

Women are of no significance in our lives. You learned by going the hard way, I respect that and thank you for that. But just because a sheep got into a trap, others are not going to follow him and do the same (using it as an example).

People like me learn the easy way and learn to focus on us instead of women. Unless you have experienced it, I don't think you can understand it.

In short, I learned to say no to proposals of any type (be it the "fuck me" eyes or anything else). Take my advice and do the same.

Title	Personal opinion: i don’t think you can/should be mgtow if you’re a virgin
Author	ohgodohgodnoplease
Upvotes	0
Comments	13
Date	April 5, 2019 10:00 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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