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[–]DWShimoda3 points4 points5 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Depends on your perspective: to a true MGTOW, that is actually a blessing.
You seriously do not WANT a bunch of desperate gold digging "drooling" groupies chasing after you; and this "standard" GREATLY helps* with that.
* It's not foolproof, because if/when you achieve financial stability (or display any "high income/high net worth" - well SOME women will figure it out and try to pursue, trick, and otherwise attempt to gain entry into (and eventually control over/ownership of) your "Man Castle" and various other assets & resources-- and the social "norm/standard" that MEN should make the first move does NOT inhibit them. (And thus -- far too often -- rather "naive" rich guys get suckered and FALL into that very trap.)
Ergo you still need to learn & practice DEFENSIVE techniques... to build an appropriately off-putting and effective proverbial "moat" around the Man Castle, etc.
[–]GarbageAccount1151 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
You have to remember that MGTOW are few and blue pilled people are everywhere.
[–]DWShimoda0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Indeed, and many, many self-labeled "MGTOW" aren't, just as may who claim to have taken "Red Pills" haven't actually, fully, digested them yet (a lot of them never really will, not all the way).
And it isn't just "biology/hormones" that gets them back onto the plantation; nor can they any longer blame or claim that they are naively & blindly following the "blue pill life-script" (most have digested some/enough of RP to know the lie of that)... instead it's an internal insecurity/neediness that drives them to seek validation from women.
The truth of that... is seen all around you with the divorced (or LTR and/or cohabiting "couple" breakup*) men who -- after a brief/false-vow "I'm done with women" phase -- pursue and find another woman to marry again (and then sometimes divorce again, and chase/marry yet again, and... rinse & repeat).
See it isn't JUST that 2/3 of divorced men actually remarry (form/legal); it's that well over 90% (probably 95%+ or even closer to 99%) of men go through multiple such "relationships" that are essentially "marriages" even if they avoid calling them such. This even includes guys who claim to be "Red Pill" and are "spinning plates" (which is just a nice self-deluding euphemism for what is actually a "fully cucked relationship"; especially if he's also playing at the "faux-alpha" game, holding frames, displaying status, etc).
* Which may not be formally/legally "marriage";but functionally -- at least in regard to what we're talking about here -- it's the same thing.
[–]Yatagurusu0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Eh isn't that part of the reason people are MGTOW, that women take no responsibility in a relationship? Having to chase is only a symptom of this.
[–]strongandhappy2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's what happens when you actually get a chance to speak your mind
[–]GhostArmorMode2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Contrary to popular tradcuck and even "red pill" opinion. Men proposing and women mass rejecting was not the original way coupling was instigated in early human societies.
Marriages were negotiated not long after puberty and arranged by parents in order to check against hypergamy and make sure men wouldn't chimp out. Women didn't have the reigns, fathers did.
Women do eventually make the first move but by then they are already worthless.