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Freedom.

smileyclown · 2019-03-12T10:46:19+00:00

Has anyone ever thought of doing whst Christopher mccandless...

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March 12, 2019

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Title	Freedom.
Author	smileyclown
Upvotes	0
Comments	6
Date	March 12, 2019 10:46 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/b06byi/freedom/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/freedom.499746 https://theredarchive.com/post/499746

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[–]jepper652 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]DWShimoda-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least he died from what he loved doing

You're saying he loved being stupid???

You may be (unintentionally) right on that.

rather then being Part of the rat slave race.

Arguably he still died from the "rat slave race"... just indirectly... from his not being able to come up with an intelligent way of avoiding it, or of properly using it.

You see, despite his claim that he was "eschewing" or "rejecting" modern technology... he didn't actually do anything of the kind. He still USED a huge array of it -- just in a dishonest, hypocritical, parasitic, and ultimately stupid, vapid, and pointlessly fatal "hobo" fashion.

Please read the following.

And before you say: "But DUUUUDE¹ ... YOU just DON'T understand him!"

Know that you're full of shit: *I* understand him a HELLUVA lot better than you do (or indeed, that you ever could... or ever will). I understand him both in terms of who he was at the time, AND -- with the benefit of 3+ (nearly 4) additional decades of life more than him since -- I can look back on him and note the 50 different ways he was a complete idiot. NOT a martyr, NOT a 'role model', NOT someone to idolize or follow... but an IDIOT, plain and simple (a "smart" dumfuck!)

In terms of knowing and "understanding" him, in the context of his mindset back then... Well, first off, he was from MY generation (GenX) -- not yours -- and unless you too are GenX (and early GenX, as in an 1960's-70's kid) then you haven't a hope of actually comprehending; if, as I suspect, you are a Millennial... well, trust me, you haven't the LEAST clue where to even start (your problems & issues, are NOT the same as his were).

Secondly, more than just being of the same generation or raised in the same era (he was in fact within just a handful of years of (slightly younger than me² ) -- from what I know of his life -- which I assure you is FAR, FAR more than you do³ both specifically AND "generation-experience" wise... well we had a lot of similar inclinations, interests, passions, etc; even what I would say is/was certainly a similar cynical/misfit/outsider (i.e. "Fuck Society!") personality.

We even did a LOT of similar things -- me generally preceding him in doing so by a good couple of years -- and with the notable difference that I not only did them years before he did, but I did so much more intelligently and rationally (and non-fatally). In fact around the same time that he died, I was regularly leading groups of teenage boys on canoeing trips and week+ long backpacking trips into wilderness areas. No, not the 'Stampede Trail' in Alaska (because unlike McCandless, I'm not an idiot), and no not trying to "live off the land" with zero preparation or proper equipment (because again... not an idiot).

But more than that, we read the same sort of (at the time somewhat "eclectic") array of books & authors -- albeit again from what I know, it appears that I read much more than he did, that I read it all a few years before he did, AND I apparently dug significantly deeper into everything than he ever did (just as ONE example, while I too read and liked Walden; unlike McCandless, I didn't "idealize" Thoreau, in part because I knew what he wrote was exaggerated/fictionalizes {at best} and arguably fraudulent & intentionally misleading {under the 'artistic license' excuse which I personally reject}) -- in fact he reminds me not only of "me" but of a couple of younger schoolmates that I had (and who I helped to NOT fall into the BS traps that McCandless did... would that he had been a schoolmate of mine, he would probably not be famous/infamous, and would probably still be alive).

Suffice it to say, if what you want is to "get away from society"... well there are only about several THOUSAND better ways (and easier, vastly more fulfilling) of doing it than what McCandless chose.

1. Fuckin' Spicoli! (Don't get me started... 10:1 most of you don't "get that reference".)

2. No, I'm not going to be more specific than that.

3. If, as I suspect is the case with MOST of y'all who "idolize" McCandless, you're chief (or more likely only) knowledge of him is the Sean Penn film... then you are LITERALLY being mislead (duped, manipulated, suckered, sold a 'bill of goods', etc).

Hey, I get it -- I really do get it -- OK... it's a very well done, very emotionally compelling dramatic film (good filming, good directing, great acting by Emile Hirsch, 'kickass' soundtrack too! ⁴ )... I like the flick too, saw it in the theater (read the book a decade before that, probably around the time you were born); bought it on DVD, and have probably watched and enjoyed it many more times than you have.

But I also know it for what it is: a Hollywood "dramatization" -- including a shitload of "propaganda" that was shoveled into it (lefty-liberal eco-feministy-socialist stuff) -- beyond the banal, it has about as much to do with actual reality (close to zilch) as some daytime Soap Opera, or some CGI-animated SciFi/superhero flick (say "Avatar").

4. By another GenX'er, even closer to my age.²

[–]ThatCard♣0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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Die from stupidity?

And before you say: "But DUUUUDE1 ... *YOU* *just DON'T understand him!"*

And before you say: "But DUUUUDE¹ ... YOU just DON'T understand him!"