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If you wanna marry, buy a wife.

PracticeKahneman

June 7, 2018
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Title If you wanna marry, buy a wife.
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PracticeKahneman

Upvotes 0
Comments 18
Date June 7, 2018 5:02 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/8p7lha/if_you_wanna_marry_buy_a_wife/
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[–]M23W0OH7FV2t3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

  1. It's MusliM not muslin

  2. Having been forced (by my mother) to go into the arranged marriage thing twice, and gotten divorced both times, I can say that the marriage discussion should have been initiated by me and not have mum go back to the old country and bring a girl back with her. Cultural differences are real, people adjust to them at different rates and, I, being unprepared (age 19 for the first and 23 for the second), didn't realize the depth of cultural shock.

[–]OmerShah00 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Hey; I'm in that spot right now with my mum. Can you please tell me a little more about your experience. It's hard to find people willing to speak honestly about this whole arranged marriage business.

[–]M23W0OH7FV2t1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In the real world, beyond the subreddit, at some level, all marriages are arranged. The problem with both of mine were twofold:

  1. I was married very young -- first time at 19, second at 23.

  2. In both cases, my wives arrived in country never having left their hometowns, not knowing the languages, etc.

If you move to (in my case) Brussels speaking neither Dutch, French, English, or German, you will be unable to work. If you're going to come in hijab, you'll probably end up going to a mosque to find a culture you recognize. Neither of my wives were educated, so no one would hire them. So, their world became a Guujrati-dialect speaking subculture. As they got more religious, they wanted to have me become more religious. I didn't care for their subculture, as I do speak Dutch, French, English, and German, along with the Gujrati dialect of my family.

Were it a functioning country, someone at the mosque would have had a job with openings, but Belgium is the West's most successful failed state per der Spiegel. So both wives couldn't get jobs, therefore saw no reason to assimilate and didn't. On the other hand, I didn't want to assimilate into their culture. I may have not had a job, but I play football, drink beer and enjoy nightlife, all of which, I would need to give up to join the mosque.

[–]The_Chiselnator0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought Gujratis are Hindus

[–]hersh1231230 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of them (90+ %) are Hindus but nearly 10% of them are Muslim.

[–]M23W0OH7FV2t0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You think wrong, a majority are, but almost 10% of them are Muslims.

[–]Ayrab4Trump0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I let my mom choose a wife for me

You gots to be kidding me. Why would you do that? You are a young man and you MUST see the girl and know someone in their family or something. Can’t go sight unseen. Tell me you didn’t do that?

Where was your dad in this thing?

[–]M23W0OH7FV2t0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You gots to be kidding me. Why would you do that? You are a young man and you MUST see the girl and know someone in their family or something. Can’t go sight unseen. Tell me you didn’t do that?

Couldn't care less.

Where was your dad in this thing?

In no place where he could help.

[–]pohlrich0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

  1. what aspects do you think your mother selected a girl on?
  2. how was your mother trained in the selection process?
  3. why were your two marriages in the 6%

[–]Ayrab4Trump1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s too late for Americans if that’s what you mean.

But I have succeeded in getting the best of both worlds like you say:

  • old culture wife from the old country
  • modern college degree
  • no worries at home (but can always do more)
  • watch as society declines around me

Nothing is perfect but I can easily see my marriage lasting a lot longer than the American version (already has).

However, I have no idea how my white American counterparts are supposed to do the same. They’re screwed. They would literally have to wait a generation get all their women to not whore it up as much as they are now. Fat chance.

Idk if our old world concept of “marriage” even fits in todays America.

[–]The_Chiselnator2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All marriages are arranged. This is a basic point.

It is simply a question of the extent of the due diligence. You can pick up some EatPraySlut thot at your organic Llama semen bar in fucking California and try to do the due diligence yourself (see how much you find out) or can have more people in the community augment your effort by letting you know more about her, her family, her upbringing and the fates of the marriages of her relatives which are all indicators of her suitability.

There is no one way.

It could be that marriages that involve more members of of the community in the selection process are better at due diligence and matching preferences/ personalities than the other ones.

The real question however is: what do you need to marry a woman for? Kids? Nice. But if you want strong, intelligent, functional, mental illness free kids why would you not welcome extended due diligence through your relatives?

I am not promoting arranged marriages. I am just saying that maybe they are not a bad idea or at least not worse than the alternative

[–]Ayrab4Trump0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

all marriages are arranged

To wit, I basically arranged my own marriage. Granted for the girl her family had great input to her decision (same with me really tho to a lesser extent).

The mere fact we are coming from a homogeneous subculture meant necessarily that our expectations going in are all the same. Which means less chance of world view mismatch.

Granted it was a major boon to me that the subculture in question was still a strong patriarchally oriented one that shamed women (and men) from staying off a narrow cultural path. From the TRP standpoint, this made marriage on easier mode compared to common American marriage we read about here.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Right, so basically you deliberately choose to fuck one and only girl for the rest of your life AND you're willing to pay for this great privilege.

Up next on TRP: how to simultaneously develop ultimate outcome independence, abundance mentality and IDGAF attitude: pay a guy to fuck your wife, preferably the one you paid for.

 

FYI: the "50% divorce rate in US" is debatable, it's probably lower. What is certain is that divorce rates in US have been slowly declining over past decades (google "USA divorce rates" and go to images to see the trend).

[–]red_philosopher-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The APA shows that the ONLY age category where this is true, is the 25-39 age group. The 40-49 age group as trended up by 15%, and the 50+ age group has trended up by a staggering 109%.

1 in 4 marriages in the 25-39 age group STILL ended in divorce. Trending down or.not, that's a huge fucking risk. Don't spread bullshit.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for the breakdown.

1 in 4 marriages in the 25-39 age group STILL ended in divorce.

Which means 75% in that group didn't.

Aside from the numbers, when it comes to the marriage itself - you willingly abandon your male sexual strategy in favour of the female one. After that, you complain that's it's a "huge fucking risk".

"I have brought an adult tiger into my house, hopped in in a zebra suit, but holy shit man, look at the statistics, these tigers are huge fucking risk".

[–]red_philosopher-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We're advocating the same thing here. IE: getting married in the US is a fool's errand. A 75% chance of avoiding significant financial harm is not worth abandoning the male sexual strategy.

My beef wasn't with that, it was with the false assertion that divorce rates are declining. Over all, divorce has increased since the 90's.

[–]CreatedItJust2Saythi0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the exact thing betas do: buy the wife.

Betas pay alpha the fux.

This is why only inferior men need to buy their polyandrous wives at the brothel.

I think TRP should ban every piece of advice telling redpillers to embrace the male inferiority culture. This post is telling redpillers outright to go beta. It's the antithesis of the Red Pill. It tells redpillers to replace alpha muscle with beta bux.

[–]DeeplyDisturbed10 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the worst posts I have read here in a long time. The fact that it survived is a surprise and a sign that TRP has gone mainstream.

While I appreciate creative and new original content, this is neither. On top of it, this post fails every single standard for this sub and borderline breaks the rules - this post helps desperate foreign women way more than it helps men.

This is a bold, and very clever attempt to sneak in an alternate view that is flat out against the spirit and intent of the sub. And you got right past the mods. But not me.

Here are a few thoughts:

  1. A man does not HAVE to marry. Stop this crap. Do it, or don't, but do not take this as inevitable.

  2. If you are going to start posting theories on this sub, at least do something more robust - comparing divorce rates for arranged marriages vs choice-based is problematic It could be that people in arranged marriages are simply more predisposed to stay together anyway (culture and context matter unless you are an idiot). So the average guy on TRP might not have that success regardless of the sort of marriage.

  3. You should also compare happiness of married men (including divorce) to never married men. It is just presented that marriage is a given, but isn't TRP about sexual strategy and the happiness and well-being of men? Your post fails right on the face of it for this reason alone. Do proper comparisons next time, dim wit.

  4. The "spoiler" clickbait title worked. I clicked. Congrats - you got me. But it is lame and you just diminished the quality of this sub. You also just lost my trust. This low quality, low effort crap needs to be slammed. There are other subs for this.

If this stays up, @redpillschool, this is the beginning of the end for this sub.

Have a good day.

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