Either I just smoked weed for the first time in awhile, or I just had a very stunning revelation. Talking to women with MGTOW is a lot like how women talk to you when you are an orbiter.

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A girl right now sent me a youtube video and I responded with "im watching a movie" - genuinely just didn't want to watch the video. She proceeded to blow up my phone about how I "never watch anything she sends me" ect. I find this very annoying, so I ask her why she likes yelling at herself so much.

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I then realized, when I had baaaaad oneitis for this girl and she was playing me out - she would speak to me the same way. Just as rudely and dismissive. I really just am stoned and want to watch a movie, and this girl is being extremely annoying by continuing to text me, I actually just tossed my phone on the other couch. But that must be exactly how I came off to my oneitis when I would similarly freak out in jealousy when she once gave me the SAME EXACT "im watching a movie" to something I sent her.

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Relationships really are all about who has the frame. If a relationship is between someone who naturally has very little frame and someone who has more than average, the weak person will always become needy to the strong person, who will begin to find the weak one annoying. This works male to female and female to male. Maybe I'm regurgitating obvious information, maybe I'm just stoned, or maybe I actually just understood a natural law about relationships.