I'd like to start a series of friendly debate threads where some issues I've seen come up in comments are discussed. Just a fun way to argue your point and see the opinions of others.

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Recently there's been a bit of activity trying to separate the MGTOW and incel communities. I personally support this, and feel that there is an enormous difference between being single by choice and being single involuntarily. Further, people who come here, read a few posts about how terrible women are without every really experiencing it, and decide to be MGTOW are not even close to the guys on here who have been through divorce rape and abusive relationships. I'm not saying to ban them, I'm just saying you need to experience life more before you can really make that choice for yourself. You need to see heartbreak, either in your life, a friend's life, or a family member's life, to really feel what is going on in the world. I remember a few years ago when the MGTOW community was tiny and reading the sidebar of the TheRedPill

And, possibly the most important point, there needs to be a strong distinction between incels and MGTOW. The only thing we have in common is a dislike for how dating and relationships are in today's society. MGTOW doesn't mean girls force you to go your own way, it's a choice you make.

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If you guys enjoy this type of thread, I'll try to do more, maybe on a weekly basis