I recently gave up on my father. He's too far gone one week after his cancer removal surgery he was back to serving my mother hand and foot. I tried being subtle i tried telling him straight. "Its just a phase. You'll find the right girl " he says. This is when i realised he was too far cucked. My brother is worse, a middle schooler whose on a break with his gf who is probably prepping to ride the carousel. This boy believes everything any woman says and practically worships women. I've tried everything with him but he denies clear evidence. I'll have to let them learn on their own. High school MGTOW. It saved me so much money already.