...of guys that try to hit on her and puts the screenshots on those subreddits. Like she straight up told me that; what incentive would I have to keep trying to talk to her? If I say one wrong thing she'd put me on a subreddit to publicly shame me?? This is women in 2018?

I think this is the final nail in the coffin for me with women. I mean I consider myself MGTOW but I still like to talk to girls for fun somewhat, I'll talk to a few girls at a time here and there through Instagram direct messaging and such to sort of sate my need to talk to women in some form... but... now that I've discovered these subreddits?

Jesus christ, they're just dedicated to mocking men who are merely trying to do what they have to do in this society in which women never initiate sex/relationships. Sure, some of them are super creepy, some of them are super "nice guy" or whatever, but just the very nature of these subreddits come across as truly mean spirited. Then you have the /r/inceltears ones that mocks dudes for being suicidal about being unable to get laid? That strikes me as just cruel, as stupid and misguided as incels can be, the culture of just openly mocking men exists in so many different forms in this website.

Look how many more subs these subreddits have than MGTOW, /r/niceguys has 529,570, /r/creepypms has 393,590, /r/inceltears has 106,889... there are massive subreddits on this website SOLELY dedicated to blaming and shaming men and I KNOW some of you will just go "who cares", but I'm only trying to point out the reality that's out there and strengthen your position. So if you DO say "who cares", at least you'll have even better reason to now; just look at how many women get such a huge kick in general out of making fun of low sexual market value men. And if you think it's bad on reddit, it's 1000x worse on Twitter. Open mockery of men that are short, calls for death on them; these posts often get tens of thousands of likes on that platform.

Yeah, I think at this point I'm finally ready to just fully back out of even entertaining the idea of talking to women as a goof or as some sort of surrogate for a time when women used to not be so absolutely vile. This has gotten ridiculous.