Your mothers, grandmothers, sisters, even daughters... Whenever I'm reading MGTOW stuff I can't help but think about my grandparents; my grandparents fell in love, travelled the world, had children, and then grew old together surrounded by family. My grandmothers loved, honoured and respected my grandfathers till the day they died and my grandfathers loved, honoured and respected my grandmothers till the day they died. Also my mother - she's a great woman who loves and respects my father, and she earns more than him and is better educated so there's no chance of it being a selfish/gold-digging type thing. They married in 1996, had me in 1997, and have been faithfully and happily together ever since.

I understand why men would decide to not bother with relationships but do members of MGTOW really look at their mothers and grandmothers and sisters and think that they are selfish, stupid, shallow, manipulative, etc etc? Because I just don't see it.