I love this sub its a temple for many of us i sometimes wonder if all this group think is really all that productive. We should discuss alternate views from outside.

When I read woman talking about mgtow topics they sound like they are just so clever and putting men in there place cause vagina. Some of the things that say are pretty convincing until you hear a counter argument. That's there master manipulator tactic. So powerful it can seem real but us it is not.

I know this is mgtow but I personally think we can try to find common ground with whamyin. Seems like one side just says it's the others fault for being a way and vice versa. Get mad manipulat or run is a trend I see.