Strong and independent woman blames men for hook up culture and men abandoning marriage in droves

mrscene1 · 2017-11-13T07:15:06+00:00

I seen a similar article a while back and someone left a very insightful comment. Men aren't marrying women anymore because women have become less feminine and more hostile. So to encourage men back to their traditional roles, they're doubling down on hostile. They're putting out a fire with gas. Men don't want to marry women, like this author, because they're complete cunts. So what's their strategy? Write more articles and up the cuntiness factor.

mediumwaffle · 2017-11-13T07:22:42+00:00

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DonaldTrumpsWaifu · 2017-11-13T11:43:59+00:00

Men who are willing to hook up or date women without committing to serious relationships or marriage are only treating women the way women expect men to treat them. Because feminists keep pushing this idea that promiscuity and hypersexuality is "empowerment", women are no longer putting effort into anything beyond their looks. That's why virtually every one of them is devoid of any kind of tangible personality whatsoever: because they think that all men want is sexy, stupid women. So they become sexy, stupid women.

The funny thing is, there's two subsets of men that continue to perpetuate this: the bluepill male feminists who support women no matter what inane idiocy feminists come up with, and the Chads who are more than happy to reduce women to nothing more than sexual objects: live action sex dolls with holes to be filled and nothing more. How feminists and women are responding to this depends on whether you want to believe that feminists want men to marry so women have control over them, or conservatives trying to get men to marry in order to fit their convenient idea of what constitutes masculinity.

Oh, right, there was a point to this. Men are moving away from marriage because women are no longer marriage material (and because marriage itself presents such an unattractive life choice for men that even those in long term relationships are increasingly avoiding it). Yes, it's nice to have someone who is sexy, but men want more than just "sexiness". We want more than just makeup and tight-fitting clothing. And if women have nothing more valuable than two holes that can be filled, why should any self-respecting man waste his time, energy, resources and finances on pursuing women when he can go and hire a prostitute, buy a fleshlight or get a sex robot and get exactly the same sexual satisfaction?

That's what all these people don't understand. Not every man is Chad. Not every man is a bluepilled feminist cuckold. There's men out there who wanted nothing more than to get married and live that utterly boring "white picket fence" lifestyle, but no longer wants to because the women who want to get married are all vapid, entitled, selfish, brainless whores who have nothing else to offer them.

Yashugan00 · 2017-11-13T07:15:08+00:00

No no no, the problem here is that women need to regulate themselves if they want to keep the price of intimacy high. But they can't, because slut shaming is verboten. So once again they want a man to fix it for them.

Dzartovian94 · 2017-11-13T08:00:39+00:00

Casual sex hurts women the most, yet they are the ones that fight for it?

How is that the fault of men? You know you've fucked up when even nature is killing you off for polygamy with STDs and mutations.

Because women are stupid.

StrongAffordance · 2017-11-13T14:57:38+00:00

The thought that Tinder is rigged in the favor of men is the biggest joke in this article.

kyledontcare · 2017-11-13T10:08:15+00:00

You don't owe a woman anything, certainly not a ring and supposed "life-long commitment", especially with divorce laws the way they are now. Good gosh. . . .

RefreshRedditAllDay · 2017-11-13T07:37:14+00:00

While most men still want to marry, ...lol

Teflon0819 · 2017-11-13T14:37:23+00:00

I read these articles and can't help but notice that the blame is always exclusively placed on men, and anything that is plainly the fault of women is either omitted or ruthlessly hamstered away.

Men don't want to get married because sex is cheap and porn is plentiful.

That's only half the story. The other half is that marriage is an ever-increasing unmanageable liability for men. Go ahead and take cheap sex and porn away and you'll find that men would still be refusing to jump out of a plane with a parachute that is statistically just as if not more likely to fail as it is to work.

Besides, who do you think it was that drove the value of sex into the ground and made porn prolific? Oh, not all of the women agreeing to fuck for free or on camera for money, but technology? Ok...

It may take a village to raise a child. But it takes a village to raise a husband, too. And modern society has largely abdicated from the job.

Again, only half the story. Because it also takes a village to raise a wife, and modern society has not only abdicated from that job as well, it has demonized the expectation of loyalty from a woman to a man, and even incentivized a lack of loyalty.

And in a climate where a woman's lack of loyalty will most likely lead to a man's mental and financial ruin, you're goddamned right that men aren't going to be interested in marriage.

2017-11-13T17:48:21+00:00

Yeah because men can just go out and fuck any girl.

These bitches are dumber than white crayons.

micktao · 2017-11-13T09:14:45+00:00

This all started with misandrist feminism that has eroded relations so much that even guys who would otherwise make a happy home (eg father, kids, grandkids, etc.) have checked out for good.

I tell my friends that you can't fight the huge ocean that is reality, but you gotta turn lemons into lemonade. What do you want? These guys -- a lot of them -- still want a white picket fence and they want to find a unicorn and have another kid since the previous marriage/s ended in disaster.

I'm like....uhhh....do your thing bro. I'm gonna do mine!

LabTech41 · 2017-11-13T09:47:20+00:00

Isn't it funny how they're the only ones who've figured it all out (after reading a bunch of books primarily written by men, who've done all the heavy lifting for them), and that SURPRISE SURPRISE, it's not their fault but men's.

But don't worry all you clueless men that for some reason want nothing to do with us, we have a solution: just live your life the way we live it and do what we do; for out of all the philosophies of the world, we are the only ones that know what we're doing. Strange how in all the world you, an orthodox jewish female writer, have figured out that the perfect solution is for men to adopt jewish orthodox practices.

kyledontcare · 2017-11-13T07:52:08+00:00

I'm not getting the impression that she is placing the blame on men as much as societal forces. While she does call the men who won't marry "Peter Pan"s she seems to say that it's women's fault for not holding men to a standard. Here are some highlights:

The scientific breakthrough that allowed women to “play the field” like a man and empower her to be equal to a man has backfired spectacularly for marriage-minded women. Economically independent women don’t need to marry for financial support, making marriage a values-based option. But despite their economic parity with men, women remain at the mercy of men who won’t commit.

“Since the women's cartel collapsed,” Wente wrote, “women's bargaining power has seriously eroded. That's why so many single women hate Tinder, which has further commodified sex for the benefit of men. Women are just another consumer good in the shop window.

She calls it the "women's cartel"

It may take a village to raise a child. But it takes a village to raise a husband, too. And modern society has largely abdicated from the job. ‘Good husband material doesn't occur naturally, but is instead the product (in part) of socialization, development, and social control,’ Mr. Regnerus writes. "[I]n the domain of sex and relationships men will act as nobly as women collectively demand."

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It is women, not men, who tend to be exploited in sexual relationships. The boundaries Jewish law sets around physical intimacy are meant to teach and reinforce the self-control that men and women need in these highly charged encounters to avoid emotional and physical exploitation. And as current trends demonstrate, the transformation of sex from a protected and consecrated act into just another recreational option hurts women in many ways, not least of which is through degrading the institution of marriage.

This is the part where she says women are the victims of this, because earlier she said women don't control men.

But the trendlines that continue to devalue marriage are real, and too many women have discovered to their dismay and frustration what Regnerus has confirmed: the “sexual freedom” that women thought would make them equal to men instead, too often, leaves them stuck with Peter Pans who won’t grow up, as they yearn for marriage and children that may never come.

In effect she says that the cost of 'sexual freedom' was the decline of marriage. Her points largely seem in line with what we point out here.

PabloEscoba · 2017-11-13T17:19:18+00:00

We had this conversation at my folks house on Thanksgiving a few years back. My sister was complaining about the dating scene in her city and how she couldn't find any acceptable guys who wanted serious relationships and marriage. I piped in with "obviously. I mean, what on Earth does a man today stand to gain by getting married?"

After a few minutes of silence and a few half starts, the only answers I got we're "kids" and "not dying alone".

2017-11-13T16:33:23+00:00

"Women are not only outpacing men in attaining college degrees and in other measures of professional achievement, but also, increasingly, in their aspirations to marry."

Ok, just stopped laughin..no wait....ok..now.

When in History EVER have men aspired MORE to marry then women? please oh please enlight me oh college degreed one.

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2017-11-13T11:24:22+00:00

The Jewish mother in me wanted to sidle over

every time

The_Law_of_the_Land · 2017-11-13T16:31:04+00:00

‘Good husband material doesn't occur naturally, but is instead the product (in part) of socialization, development, and social control,’ Mr. Regnerus writes.

This author can go suck a SUCK A BAG OF DICKS GTOW!

mongolian_usa · 2017-11-13T19:51:07+00:00

Note that she completely glosses over what men completely lose out on and the woman gains once she changes her mind and decides to divorce. AWALT!

[deleted] · 2017-11-13T23:06:40+00:00

Both my marriage and last LTR failed because they couldn't keep their legs closed. So easy access to sex definitely is real. But it's for them. I probably couldn't go get any chick I wanted tonight. But most girls can go to a bar or club and have a 100% shot at getting some strange cock.

We're both the same species. We have the same tendencies. So I hypothesize that both sexes are therefore equally likely to cheat. The difference is, one has unlimited access to strange, the other has to work at it for weeks or months to get it (if they're not like driving a Lambo).

2QuietDude · 2017-11-13T20:14:11+00:00

Why is no one writing REALISTIC articles about this stuff?

starBux_Barista · 2017-11-14T04:17:10+00:00

“Since the women's cartel collapsed,” Wente wrote, “women's bargaining power has seriously eroded. That's why so many single women hate Tinder, which has further commodified sex for the benefit of men. Women are just another consumer good in the shop window.

2017-11-14T05:02:35+00:00

dumb cunts be dumb; in other news...

Title	Strong and independent woman blames men for hook up culture and men abandoning marriage in droves
Author	PabloEscoba
Upvotes	80
Comments	55
Date	November 13, 2017 7:06 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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