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[–]mrscene122 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Anyone read the comments? Basically sums up womens logic as 'I had a baby when I was X, therefore your studies are incorrect.' Disproving a general statement with an outlier, getting a little too common lately.
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Solipsism
[–]Ebrg0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly
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prior to 30, a healthy woman's fertility is high enough that it's easy for her to get pregnant, and the health risks to herself or the child are extremely low. over 90% of conceptions result in a healthy baby.
once she hits 30, fertility goes into freefall and it gets significantly harder for her to conceive.
once she hits 35, risks of miscarriage, stillbirth, serious birth defect (not including just downs), and risk to the mother (not just including ectopic pregnancies) skyrockets. at that point, women see a 30-60% failure rate in "having a healthy pregnancy". aneuploidy (chromosomal anomaly that causes downs, miscarriage, stillbirth, or other major birth defects) begins to rise sharply.
by 40, aneuploidy alone is over 70%, and by 45, over 90%.
everyone knows someone who had a healthy kid after 35. but women who have perfectly healthy children with complication-free pregnancies after 35 are the exception, not the rule. when shit goes wrong, most people don't talk about it. one of my bluepill friends shacked up a post-wall woman and they waited into her late 30s to just start trying. multiple failed IVF treatments and 4 miscarriages later, the doctor told him he'd never have children unless they get a surrogate. most of our friends don't even know they were trying.
but there's something even worse than failing to have children outside surrogacy... women who waited until their late 30s (or later) and they had a kid with serious birth defects. most of them say nothing on social media, but there are a few who post pics of their unhealthy never-will-be-normal children. they so clearly and desperately wish their kid was just normal. even worse, some of these are high powered lawyers/doctors/executives, and once they popped out their imperfect baby, their career fell to shit. not only do they have to spend an unbearable amount of time and money on upkeep of their imperfect kid, they fall into depression knowing that it's all their fucking fault. the torment must be agonizing.
i would never even consider putting my future children through that. and that's why i'll never knock up some post-wall hag.
[–]IAmTheDos13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As always, their top concern is not the physical risks to the mothers and children, it is their emotional perceptions of the dangers that take precedence in all things.
There is a risk when giving birth for an older woman, but the real problem is when people try to accurately educate her on the dangers so she can make an informed decision.
That makes her feel something negative (fear, shame, sadness, uncomfortable etc.) and therefore must BE negative, because her emotions are the only important thing in the universe.
And thats how educating women on medical science became misogynistic.
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[–]boringcarpets6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Fair. But if a dusty old post waller chooses to use her out of date eggs then the consequences should be down to them and them alone - no taxes should go towards someone knowingly having children with birth defects
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Better to just cut out welfare all together and no tax dollars go to anyone.
[–]Ebrg1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Disabled people?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i'd prefer it not come down to that but if that's what it takes to stop funding people getting useless degrees at the tax payers expense,food stamps to welfare moms laying up and having more kids so their asses don't have to work,as well as giving foreign aid to other countries when we need that money here at home taking care of our own people then yeah ...... cut it out.
[–]Galvanize0074 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah sure, go have some retarded kids so that you have one more stamp on your victim card. It's fucking pathetic.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4849528/Stop-scaring-older-mums-risks-having-baby.html
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[–]scotFree662 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I heard the radio soundbite: the midwife said "there are 40 year old plus healthy looking mothers and there are unhealthy looking 25 year old mothers"
Totally missing the point that as wimmen get past 30 they are statistically & exponentially increasingly likely to give birth to babies with defects!
Feelz before Realz again!
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