TL;DR I give my reasons on why poorer BW should pursue middle-income WM. I look at the potential reasons why it might not work. I tell a story about a finnish woman who's life was ruined by making a series of bad choices. I ask a bunch of questions. I'm genuinely curious as to why Black women don't think along these lines. Filipino and Eastern European women seem to be the ones who normally think like this.

Recently I read about the red pill, mgtow type guys and I realized that there seems to be a growing minority of guys who are either lonely or are fed up with what they see as a growing anti-male feminist culture hostile to them. Also, a while ago I read about the income disparity between blacks and whites which is huge and getting bigger. I also lived in NYC were I got to see what living in a low income environment is like firsthand(It tough, being poor is hella expensive) and supposedly black women earn around 68 cents to a white guys dollar. According to CNN whites have 10 times the wealth. http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/21/news/economy/black-white-inequality/

Both of these issues got me thinking about why things are the way they are. When I combine the red pillers who are fed up and moving away from white women with the income disparity for black women and the difficulty they face moving up in society it seems to me that from a low income/poor young black girls perspective the best choice she could possibly make to move up to middle class status is to make herself desirable to and to actively pursue young white men straight out of college as they are preparing their careers and older divorced white men fed up with feminism.

What do I mean by make themselves more attractive to white men?

Well I don't know much about what white guys want from women but from what I've observed(I'm a black guy) from my time in college is that white guys that go on to be successful can be pretty nerdy (star trek, star wars, xbox fanboys, comic books, dungeons and dragons, cosplay, card games etc) A lot of women can see some of those things as loserish so many of these guys end up complaining that white women don't show them any love. Seems like this is a great opportunity for black women to do for those guys what the white women won't. A low income BW should develop an interest in these sorts of things to be in the orbit of a lot of these types of guys. A second observation is that a lot of red pill type guys want women who are chaste, feminine and somewhat like what women used to be ideally. Basically the conservative's concept of what a woman should be like.

From what I've read many of these complaints from men also include women doing a "alpha fux, beta bux" type strategy which ends up with a lot of single guys left hanging during their 20's and older men getting screwed in divorce. Seems to me that would be the perfect time for black women to present themselves as the alternative.

What do I think black women should do?

Rather than wait for men to make the move as has been the historical norm low-income black women should actively hit on and ask out these sorts of guys out on dates. Go to where they hang out in college or go to comic book stores, gamestop etc... Those places can be like a buffet of single white guys.

A second thing I think BW should work on is developing the type of feminine qualities that these guys are looking for. The cute soft voiced girl who plays World of Warcraft type of thing.

I think those girls should also dress in ways that hide their assets to encourage those mens imaginations. Instead of tight jeans I would think a librarian look might be more effective.

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This wouldn't be effective to attract a guy who just wants to hookup but would likely be the sort of style a guy who wanted a longterm relationship should go for.

I understand that there may be racial barriers, class barriers, and other barriers. There will probably be many white men that simply will not find a black woman attractive no matter what. Regardless of these barriers I think women should make the attempt anyways.

Here are my reasons why low income black women should do this: Poverty sucks balls. Its horrible and you feel trapped and stressed all the time. As soon as you get a paycheck it evaporates almost as fast as you got it to pay rent and all the other bills and from what the data shows black women have it the worst. There is other data that also shows that moving up the socio-economic ladder is getting hard due to increase in competition. Maybe its just me but I would think that being a housewife in a middle class neighborhood would be paradise compared to living in a ghetto working at mcdonalds or, in the neighborhood, I lived in working at a nail salon. I remember on my way to work I would see this hispanic pregnant woman pandhandling in the subway. I could imagine that kids future was going to be very difficult because the woman was so poor she had to beg for loose change everyday and may have been a single mother so the kid would likely grow up in poverty. My other reasons

  1. Seems to me that many white guys feel unloved.
  2. A middle class lifestyle is supremely better than a ghetto lifestyle no matter what freedoms you may have to give up.
  3. Future children will be better off because they will have access to better schools, and in the long run better opportunities.
  4. Feminism doesn't seem to do anything for black women especially the low-incomers.
  5. Nerdy white guys tend to be more open-minded so race might not even be that big of a deal to them, I made a fair share of white friends in college and something I realized is that many guys are actually to shy to talk to girls or they think it wouldn't work out without giving it a try.

Issues that could make this unworkable would be if they spoke ebonics/ghetto as many people look down on this. Doing drugs and other illegal activities would be a big no-no. Having children already would also put a lot of guys off and finally being slutty or being with a lot of guys would probably scare off these types of guys. Thinking they might have to fight off angry black guys might also be an issue.

Something I just realized is that the ideal rolemodel for this sort of thinking would be Filipino and Russian mail order brides who leave their homes to move to America to be the traditional wife that older white guys seem to crave having.

Other potential issues:

  1. I suppose many black women hate the idea of being submissive to a white guy.
  2. Black women would be too unwilling to change themselves to fit the desires of men theres no guarantee they can get.
  3. Race is a much bigger issue to these kinds of guys than I realize.
  4. Too much of a divide between poor BW and middle class WM so common ground would be difficult to find.
  5. Young black women aren't aware of the massive opportunity they have to change their path in life. Statistically if you are born into the lower class you're going to stay there especially if you're black.
  6. Black women aren't aware that if they are in a low income status they face big hurdles aka the poverty trap.

Some of you might be asking why would a black guy give advice to black women to actively pursue nerdy white guys. I did a thought experiment of what the best path would be for a black person to move up in society. I concluded that the best possible pathway is to try to assimilate into mainstream culture as best as possible, actively network with people who hold the keys to a middle-class life, basically white guys, actively pursue education and get as advanced a college degree as possible, move into a low competition area and buy and hold property and save income as much as possible. For women, however, I theorized that marrying up would be the most efficient long-run option. The reason I think that is because the good universities tend to have high tuition which makes college out of reach for low income people even with loans and scholarships. The employment prospects aren't that great atm for a lot of people (imagine the stereotype of the underemployed starbucks barista) but they especially suck if you're black since you also have to deal with discrimination. I thought that it would actually be better for low-income women to move themselves out of the economic rat race and move into the housewife career where they might have a better edge.

Arguments that people might use against this is that its wrong to pursue a man just for his money but I would argue that its not just about money but about improving you're living conditions for yourself and future children.

What about love? IMO love is what you make of it. There is a saying (chinese or indian can't remember which) Western women marry the men they love and eastern women learn to love the man they married. I think low income black women should seriously consider this saying.

I said this before and I'll repeat it. Poverty sucks and its been causing a lot of social unrest, crime and failed movement to increase the minimum wage.

I want to tell you a short story about the woman I lived with while I was in New York. She was a white woman from Finland but she was in a poverty trap. She used to be a dancer and lived pretty well but as she got older she wasn't able to continue dancing and her lifestyle fell substantially. When she was young she was married to a guy who was stable and employed but she eventually left him and she later met another man who could be best described as a drug addicted psycho aka a bad boy. Her life after meeting the bad boy crumbled. She became a drug addict and alcoholic and the guy would prostitute himself to wealthy manhattan men(the guy was apparently really good looking). The great irony of all of this is that the stable and dependable guy she was married to was a black guy and the bad boy that wrecked her life was a white guy. This isn't important but at the time I thought it was ironic. I observed a big differences in the pictures. In her marriage to the stable guy she appeared to be really happy and there were plenty of family pictures so I assumed that both families accepted the interracial marriage. She never told me why she left him other than that after the separation he gained a lot of weight. The new guy she ended up with was chaos incarnate, abusive, controlling and her life deteriorated eventually he left her and got married to someone else. Now she is single and over 50, childless and has 5 cats. (I hated living with those cats. I liked 1, tolerated the second and was wishy washy with the kitten but I hated the fourth and fifth cats) The second guy she was with was still a part of her life and every time they talked she would go on a drinking binge the next day which would last about a month. She was basically permadrunk for weeks and she had to go through great lengths and support from 1 or 2 friends to help her sober up. The first time this happened I didn't understand the power that alcohol has over alcoholics and I didn't understand how much a bad relationship could damage a woman. Her most recent binge was when I decided I had had enough with NYC and I left the state to go home. I think she's sober now but its only a matter of time before the cycle repeats itself. I theorized that if she had stayed with her husband her life would have been stable and normal. She might have had kids and might have had an alcohol and drug-free future because from the way she described her first guy he was a good guy who treated her well. Later on it got me thinking that many women, especially low income black women, may face a very similar situation. They ignore the decent guy who can provide stability in favor of the bad boy who makes them excited and their lives end up ruined. Living with this woman taught me how small mistakes when you are young can quickly snowball into tragedies when you are older. Also learned a bit about Finnish people.

The neighborhood I lived in had other signs of poverty I could see every day like this transgendered prostitute who stood by the subway every morning or this really old woman who would beg for money by the subway all day long every day and other examples.

So what do you guys think? Am I wrong in stating that low-income women should focus more on attracting white guys? Are there issues I'm just not seeing? Are women just blind to the opportunity? What about black guys? I'll write a second post if people want to know, or don't