Not necessarily new here, but I've been lurking on this sub a while, and while I agree with many of the things stated here, there are some I can't quite understand just yet. Not meaning to stir anything up or break any rules, just trying to have a decent discussion.

I've heard from many many different people that unicorns simply don't exist. That women should be avoided in long-term scenarios because they hold lots of manipulative power, especially with the law on their side. However, allow me to play the contrarian, and ask why the majority of you believe EVERY girl has been corrupted by the modern world?

Yes, of course the majority of women, especially in schools these days, are attached to their phones and suffer from extreme narcissistic tendencies because of social media. But certainly, not every girl can be that bad? I'm sure most people here have known at least one girl that's pretty alright. Maybe the shy one that just focuses on her work, maybe one that never received the attention to give herself a false sense of self-worth. Surely not every single woman can be out to divorce-rape and cheat?

While yes, there are natural archetypes for women to follow, such as leaving lower-status men for higher-status should the opportunity come, I just don't see how lumping the entire gender into this one sadistic category somehow isn't the same as a feminist claiming all men are evil on the inside. It feels like one extremist view against another.

I've also heard that women are incapable of love. Or at least, incapable of love compared to how men fall in love with women, often times hearing that "men are the real romantics" and all of that. Again, I find this is just generalizing every woman into one category, almost as an excuse to not have to go into deeper detail, or not have to admit that there are decent women out there.

I'd love to hear what some of you think; if you agree, or have a counter-argument to provide. I know the whole goal of mgtow is to wake men up and direct them towards following their own goals and own success, but I feel that these topics are just as important. Some of these claims, which basically portray women as villains, may turn men towards pure hatred for women, and I don't think that's the message trying to be sent here.