~ archived since 2018 ~
Popular
Other
sopun
[–]NiceIce169 points170 points171 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
A woman gets pregnant.
If a man wants to have the baby and she doesn't, she can have an abortion and there is nothing he can do to stop her.
Even after she has given birth, she can put in up for adoption, or just drop it off at a women's shelter and never have to be responsible for it.
If the man does not want the child, there is nothing he can do - he is stuck paying child support for the next 18+ years. Terrible double standards. The man should have the right to get a financial abortion, and sign over his rights to the child if he so chooses.
[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points 8 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
The woman gets pregnant, the man financially abdicates, the woman has the baby anyway and all men in the country now have to chip-in through taxes to pay for the child. Mass cucking.
You have to be prepared to let the woman and child starve (without benefits) or else this (male financial abortion) is all for naught.
There's huge proportions of the MGTOW community (nevermind the general populace) that would not countenance the scenario where he'd see women and new-borns dead on the road-side from exposure/malnutrition.
It's your altruism that allows women to destroy you.
[+][deleted] 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s not the feminists, it’s not even the potential dead/women children, it’s the upper echelons of the male hierarchy wanting to monetise men, they want the next generation of tax payers and they want men to pay for them.
[–]ShrunkenHed2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The mating ritual and our antiquated views of it just prove that for women and men alike, we have a mutual agreement/understanding that women are children and possess no self agency or are too stupid for consequences so they need protection.
The thing about the modern frontier is that this obvious truth is only recognized by a few and so they are cast out, because society defines normal, not common sense. And we all know how society deals with common sense.
If you're waiting for common sense to rule the priorities of society, you'll die wanting and having nothing.
The only solution is to be the change you wish to see and compromise - even in the slightest - for no person unless you find a better way.
Most people, even MGTOWs are thoroughly incapable of doing this. Most MGTOWs don't realize their life terminates the moment this society they despise and wants to fall falls (most of them think they're MGTOW because they watch anime and are on a wait list for sex dolls and artificial wombs). It takes a strong, straight back to truly stand on your own.
[–]J_St0rm4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
women and new-borns dead on the road-side
How realistic is that? Not very. Women aren't stupid (mostly) just manipulative and lazy (because there is a massive safety net for her).
Take that safety net away and offer free implanted birth control and you can bet your ass they'd be lining up for it.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m not saying it’ll happen I’m just saying you have to be prepared to allow it to happen. That’s the hurdle that would have to be overcome when some bitch politician says ‘so you’re going to let all of them starve’ and you say: ‘yes, it’s on them, the government won’t lift a finger’.
It better not be said with bravado either — they have to believe you.
Even then the women will still have the kids and force their male relatives to support them.
Fathers -> Cucks -> Tax Payers -> Male Relatives
One way or another a man pays.
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Altruism is the best con job ever. Someone actually convinced the majority that harming yourself for the benefit of strangers makes you a good person. Fucking priceless.
[–]Orig_analUse_rname1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agreed. By that same token, if he agrees that the child is his, then he can't back out. The only time he can back out is a day or so after the birth or anythime before.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
exactly! thing is this could also serve in the mothers interest. if she gave birth to a justin bieber and the father gives up rights to the kid, when it becomes the next Bieber, then she'll get full rights to that child and the child will only want to support that one parent. granted that's a rare occurence, but you see young children become super rich and how the parents bicker over who has custody or who the kid cares for.
[–]StarlightWrath69 points70 points71 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Never get married, never have children, avoid women.
This rule will save you from 95% of problems.
[–]DreadPirateRosco23 points24 points25 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. I'm struggling in my career but have the oh-so-sweet backdrop of no ball n chain women/children/debt. I could survive working at McDonald's the rest of my life if I had to.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yep i would say probably more than 95% sometimes when someone is well off
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
What's wrong with having children as a single father? I'm going to adopt.
[–]StarlightWrath4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nothing. If you want to adopt - go ahead.
By "having children" I meant having them with a woman, because for women children are child support paychecks.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh ok.
[–]lacxeht1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Get ready for endless accusations of being a pedo. When women do it's fine and shit like "she just wants to be a mother but can't find any good guys"
When a guy does it single, he's automatically a pedo and a creep.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Really? I've never heard that.
[–]lacxeht1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I haven't looked much in to in but the only time you hear about it or see it, it's usually bad.
I don't give a fuck. I know I'd be a good father. People can say what they want. Gonna adopt a son to thrive in this world. Daughters are a lost cause at this point.
[–]J_St0rm0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Surrogacy!
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Why would you want to throw away all of your free time and disposable income?
Because it's fulfilling. Why does anyone do anything?
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't think you've spent much time around parents if you think it's "fulfilling". Parents are always angry, stressed, complaining about how miserable they are because they had kids, etc.
You've been around some shitty parents who don't know how to parent.
[–]poison-fang-blade15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If women can abort when they don't want a child, men should be able to deny any kind of support if he doesn't want a child.
But who am I kidding, men have no reproductive rights and society as a whole is too pussy whipped for that to change.
[–]AntiAbleism10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Avoid the problem entirely, avoid women.
[–]listerine4116 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If the law made women have sole financial responsibility for the women they choose to have, you would probably see a 90% drop in unintended pregnancies.
Far better than all the free birth control you could possibly give away.
[–]cum_drop2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The danger arises when adultery isn't punished and when chad isn't at the end of a shotgun being coerced to be responsible and marry the harlot he impregnated.
[–]AncapGhxst1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How about you don't have unprotected sex?
[+][deleted] 8 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
that was his point. men who don't want to be fathers after the point of pregnancy. just saw my Best friend go thru it. basically got pregnant trapped and all he could say was, well now i get married and yeah, this is who i'm stuck with. what a feeling.
[+][deleted] 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
wow, my twin bro. kush and ps4. it's the best wife ever.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A man not wanting to be a father? Be proactive, tard, get a fucking vasectomy.
[+]gretamine-19 points-18 points-17 points 8 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
Um. No. A dead beat specifically refers to a guy who HAS kids but chooses not to take care of them or be around. Not just some guy who has no kids. That would be known as a 'bachelor' ffs
[–]TB40911 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeeaaa... Which is exactly what he said. A mother can abort or put the kid on adoption and there isn't any social judging but if that woman keeps the baby, finds tyrone that knocked her up and demands child support and he refuses to take on a father role either financially or emotionally, hes socially accepted as a dead beat father even tho he never intended to be a father.
[+]gretamine-14 points-13 points-12 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
That's not what was said, though...and fr if you're gonna have sex, use protection. That's your own fault if you choose not to.
[–]TB4097 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
With a little common sense, yea, that's exactly what was said. How is a man logically a dead beat father without first becoming a father?
[+]gretamine-11 points-10 points-9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He literally is a father. That is his spawn. Do you not understand biology?
[–]gretamine-2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
...so that means ppl shouldn't wear condoms? I say the same thing to men and women. How stupid are you? And you literally proved my point. It takes two to get pregnant. If a woman gets pregnant and has the kid then the guy who got her pregnant needs to pay for that kid. If he didn't want a kid, condoms are a thing. Take responsibility. Why are you all so stupid?
[+][deleted] 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]fuckyouredditcunts777 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Um. No.
No need to read beyond that.
[–]Mapispema-ta2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When she starts with that you know she doesn’t have anything of value to say.
[–]gretamine-2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
So you're ignorant? Cool story
[+][deleted] 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]gretamine-3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Do you realize the way you speak makes you sound ignorant? I don't care about what someone as hateful as you has to say. Ppl like you just live miserable lives and you bring it on yourselves
[+][deleted] 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]gretamine0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You are making no sense.
[+][deleted] 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]gretamine-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Difference between me and you is that I followed it up with a reason. Ig you won't see your idiocy, though. People like you are stuck in your ways
[–]ShrunkenHed5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You're a retard. See yourself out.
That's you, though
[–]ShrunkenHed1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You just "no, you"d me to the accusation that you're a retard.
[–]gretamine0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is that an accusation, though 😂 you're just giving random insults to a stranger. You have no ground to stand on
[–]ShrunkenHed2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your stupidity stands on its own. I need no ground.
[–]GioDinoMan3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I never take other MGTOW's advice/statments word for word. The reason I got here is because I question everything. This example is just a minor one. But I have heard some bad advice/detrimental life choices. GYOW
[–]gretamine1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's true. That's why I still support MGTOW even tho there are a lot of things other people do or say that I disagree with.
[–]KanoDoMario1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Me too. Most of these people here have way too radical opinions like wyhym are some tabula rasa. I respectfully disagree, I think all of them have one of the characteristics but not all
[–]E46M540 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True, but if you get to be in your 30's and still don't have kids, society will often make negative judgements against you. While I could not care less what society thinks, I do find it unfortunate that society can't see we should actually be praising those who abstain from reproduction. People who reproduce in a world with 7.5 Billion people just so they can post pictures to Facebook are the ones who should be shamed.
[–]gretamine1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would say it's more around 40s since so many people are getting married later nowadays to prioritize their careers. And it definitely applies to both genders. It is unfortunate, I agree.
oh look.. a cunt invading male space
© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.created by /u/dream-hunter
[–]NiceIce169 points170 points171 points (12 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points (8 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (3 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ShrunkenHed2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]J_St0rm4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Orig_analUse_rname1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]StarlightWrath69 points70 points71 points (14 children) | Copy Link
[–]DreadPirateRosco23 points24 points25 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (11 children) | Copy Link
[–]StarlightWrath4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]lacxeht1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]lacxeht1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]J_St0rm0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]poison-fang-blade15 points16 points17 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]AntiAbleism10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]listerine4116 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]cum_drop2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]AncapGhxst1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (4 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (2 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[+]gretamine-19 points-18 points-17 points (29 children) | Copy Link
[–]TB40911 points12 points13 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[+]gretamine-14 points-13 points-12 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]TB4097 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[+]gretamine-11 points-10 points-9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (3 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]gretamine-2 points-1 points0 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]fuckyouredditcunts777 points8 points9 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]Mapispema-ta2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]gretamine-2 points-1 points0 points (7 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (6 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]gretamine-3 points-2 points-1 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (4 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]gretamine0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (2 children) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]gretamine-1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]ShrunkenHed5 points6 points7 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]gretamine0 points1 point2 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]ShrunkenHed1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]gretamine0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]ShrunkenHed2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]GioDinoMan3 points4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]gretamine1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]KanoDoMario1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]E46M540 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]gretamine1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link