"You're just too negative"

nonchalantfool · 2018-02-24T18:25:30+00:00

...."You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect"...

HanginnChad · 2018-02-24T18:28:50+00:00

I don’t. I don’t go advertising how I live. I don’t spend a second discussing it with people. Not so much MGTOW, but my life philosophy in general. It’s just too foreign to people.

It’s one of the benefits of getting older - you stop giving a shit what others think.

People need to be lied to to make them feel comfortable with their own horrifically fucking stupid life choices. For them, realism = negative. Just lie to them, it’s what everyone wants to hear. Lie, nod, smile.

Then go your own way.

2018-02-24T18:30:25+00:00

The criticism you get from people like you describe is intended to pressure you in a direction they choose. They are using what is called a logical fallacy. There are many versions of this with different intentional effects.

What you are describing is the Ad Hominem logical fallacy. It's intent is to criticize a subject other than the argument the subject is making. Example: A personal attack of someones character to discredit the message of the person.

This sort of strategy is used by someone without a firm foundation by which they could argue a counterpoint. In simpler terms, they're not smart enough, or informed enough to rationally argue the merit of what you're saying to them.

A logical fallacy is a ploy using irrational thought. The best response to this kind of behavior is non engagement. You might want to apply rationale to your position in an effort to have someone understand or see your perspective, but when someone uses logical fallacies they are usually unreasonable.

The most effective strategy here is to hold your personal philosophy close to your chest. Don't breach the conversation. Downplay and dismiss any approach to the topic. You may want to 'inform' someone, but your logic is generally not going to be heard.

StarlightWrath · 2018-02-24T19:23:44+00:00

"Being positive" aka "thinking with your dick".

No thanks, rather stay negative.

soy_socks · 2018-02-24T19:17:40+00:00

"You're too negative" is what people say when they have absolutely nothing else to refute you. In other words you're 100% on the money and they just don't want to listen.

J_St0rm · 2018-02-24T22:59:50+00:00

How I live my life is my business. If someone asks and then complains at the reply usually my answer is along the lines of “and that’s why you’re sat here complaining while I’m living comfortably at 26 only working 6 months of the year”.

ajaski708 · 2018-07-31T17:07:24+00:00

I chatted with my parents yesterday about not engaging in relationships with women and they resorted to this same defence mechanism. "You have to get rid of your negativity" blah blah blah. You just have to understand that some people just don't have the ears for the truth. I think in my case my parents are trying to make me see things from their side of the spectrum, but they can't rationalize me changing my mind so they attack my attitude.

fcb98292 · 2018-02-24T21:35:10+00:00

IDGAF. I am happy to correct cucks when I deem it necessary.

AtheistGoodDeeds · 2018-02-25T06:11:28+00:00

I get this in conversation about goals with women. What's so interesting is I once tried to explain it and she was baffled and confused by the mentality. My feelings are there to push me in the correct direction. My goal isn't to have good feelings about something; it is to succeed. If disappointment at progress is what motivates me to push harder or pivot, great! That's fine. The feeling is a temporary motivator, not the end goal. The end goal is success. She couldn't understand that. She thought the goal was to have a good feeling about something and was sad for me when I didn't.

Avenged7fo · 2018-02-25T09:44:47+00:00

IMO, the most common anti-MGTOW response is the typical ÿou just can't get women" reply. I for one will admit that I dont have the right tools in "getting women" and I've come to accept that and move on.

"Getting women" is not a prerequisite to a meaningful life. Set your own individual goals FOR you. Do something meaningful. Get a hobby. Be a good person to your family. Donate to charity. Anything.

watain218 · 2018-02-25T14:44:30+00:00

Ive been called "cynical" I take it as a compliment since that just means I look at things with a sober eye

treble-n-bass · 2018-02-25T17:46:46+00:00

Yeah, this negative fucking attitude of mine keeps me ALIVE, on my toes and MGTOW. Thank you very fucking much.

Title	"You're just too negative"
Author	Jojithewise
Upvotes	21
Comments	20
Date	February 24, 2018 6:14 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/7zycrl/youre_just_too_negative/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/youre-just-too-negative.589233 https://theredarchive.com/post/589233

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