So TFM did a video on this where for once I actually believe he - perhaps didn't drop the ball - but at least didn't cover it fully. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SGtLskFgEg)

I want to add some points:

  1. Many MGTOW get laid either using escorts or red pill techniques. MGTOW simply says that women or society should not control your life. MGTOW does NOT require never getting laid. In fact I KNOW that some MGTOW are basically Chads and may be MORE likely to have illegitimate children than a lot of married cucks out there.

  2. Many MGTOW are divorce raped fathers with children. Its not like we don't want families or women BUT the system and the women have become SO toxic that they are both of NEGATIVE value to us.

  3. MORE than half of MGTOW either HAVE or WANT children according to this poll. However again the system is just too toxic. https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/56zosm/do_you_want_or_value_children_and_family_or_do/

  4. Some few fathers have used surrogate(s) to have a family while avoiding a wife entirely. While expensive up front it is guaranteed to get you access to better genes, control over your children and may well be cheaper in the long run.

  5. The current system is collapsing. A young MGTOW who avoids marriage the next 20 years could easily find himself in a good situation surrounded by a harem of desperate post-welfare-society women. Men stay fertile for many decades more than women. Family oriented MGTOW can simply out-wait an entire generation of women until conditions improve. OR they can go to a more primitive part of the world where pussy is in endless supply due to the lack of welfare.

  6. Donate sperm. You will even get paid for this. A single MGTOW donor could literally out-breed a hundred married men.

So in short there is simply no reason for MGTOWs to "go extinct".

The hardcores out there may wonder why bother saying this stuff? Well lets just say most men balk at any ideology that requires celibacy AND it really sells MGTOW short. MGTOW is so much more to me. Its about freedom of action. Its about ending shame in all its forms and accepting ONLY deals that YOU like.