Not completely sure about MGTOW

exit-stage-right2 · 2016-12-17T06:27:37+00:00

I was like you when I was young. My head was full of romance, chivalry, fairy princesses, and unicorns, but all I found were selfish and deceitful women. You can't change that. It is woman's nature.

Contageon · 2016-12-17T08:02:39+00:00

I get that mentality mate. Honestly I do. I think you just need to just change your perspective a bit. Its not as binary as it seems.

After all if we are told that all men are violent, incompetent, rapists - and we look at ourselves and every guy we know and think 'Ok well not all men are like that'. Then of course it must stand to reason not all women are as bad as they say.

In my experience. All men and all women are capable of being decent human beings and complete cunts. The problem currently is - when women decide to turn on men, they have the full weight of the legal system to back up that mood swing. Men don't.

I was woken up to this fact early on. Parents divorced when I was 3, when I was 5 a woman my dad dated sabotaged her birth control deliberately to have a kid with him. The next step of that plan being that once the kid was born she could strong arm him into getting rid of me. It worked and I was shipped off to my mother who was a rabid feminist. So growing up with that narrative in the background was just amazing as a boy.

I saw that the guys she dated pulled the same shit and kept trying to get rid of me. Overhearing all of them at one stage or another try and convince her I'd be better off living with grandparents or anyone else. Eventually getting their wish when I was 17 and came home to find my stuff on the front lawn and the locks changed.

Difference was - my stepmother had a really strong legal deterrent behind her ultimatum. My stepfather didn't.

She could tell him that if he doesn't do it, he will lose everything and live out his days in financial servitude to kids he will never see again. She did all of those things to him 15 years later anyway once the kids were older and she had finished the degree in nursing he paid for. She then applied for, and the courts gave her - the house and all its contents, the bank accounts and the newer of the two cars they had.

Yes you could argue that not all women are like that - but ask anyone who believes that and has been around, they will confirm those are so rare its not even worth planning for.

None of us went out and found some college whore or an outright bitch to wife up. Men rarely marry the first woman they find, and we go through a lot of crazy before we find one who passes our character tests.

The problem is that just like there are psycho guys out there who can mimic the role of a nice guy perfectly - so too are there women who can seem like totally chill and amazing human beings. The problem is that it stops the second they either feel like they own you or you are no longer useful to them.

MGTOW comes from the fact that it is so impossibly difficult to filter the masses of evil women from the handful in each continent who are decent human beings - and the consequences for getting it wrong are life destroying. So the smarter option is to opt out of that game of social/financial/psychological and sometimes literal suicide until such time as the system changes or we die from old age rather than stress for a change.

My advice, is to just stay out of long term relationships (completely avoid marriage) and wear a condom you supply no matter what she says.

If you end up in a relationship with one even after several years if she tells you; its OK shes on the pill you don't have to use a condom - don't believe it. Just tell her you don't feel comfortable doing that and if she reacts badly you know what she was trying to do. Once she is pregnant or you are legally married the law abandons you and stands fully behind her every whim. And the odds she will use and abuse the shit out of that power are staggering.

MGTOW isn't about hating women, its about opting out of a system that exists solely to destroy men for the benefit of the woman and the kids.

Stridaar · 2016-12-17T09:56:59+00:00

give yourself some time, focus on your studies and your career.

metaqaulone · 2016-12-17T11:26:35+00:00

Go out there and find you're unicorn, come back in 10 years you will have good stories to tell.

rectrey · 2016-12-17T06:59:46+00:00

Every time you see a pretty, "sweet" girl picture her taking the nastiest, smelliest, most vile dump mixed with period blood clots and you see what she's really made of.

scorched_throwaway · 2016-12-17T08:42:40+00:00

it boils down to a few simple truths.

you do any sort of life dance with a female and she at anytime can destroy your life via false accusations and everyone will support her, unless you have rock solid evidence and even then, your reputation will take a hit. always be recording.

it's likely she will end up pregnant and this means no one expects her to work, meaning it's on you and it might not even be your kid.

hypergamny is part of their operating system and all it takes is a smile from mr handsome and the above instances can be set in motion.

..and if you end up divorced with kids. game over!

Budee01 · 2016-12-17T07:33:04+00:00

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eja_cool8 · 2016-12-17T12:46:57+00:00

Hi dude. I became MGTOW at your age.

What sold me was not just my experiences, but The Manipulated Man by Esther Villa which is on the sidebar. Add that with some basic evolutionary psychology and it's difficult not to fall down the rabbit hole.

Talkytalktalk · 2016-12-17T14:54:54+00:00

You're ahead of the curve, brother. I didn't even get an inkling of all this till after a 14 year marriage from hell.

numgtow · 2016-12-17T23:25:17+00:00

I got married young. I devoted my life to this crazy bitch and my three kids only to have been cheated on. The psychopath went as far as to entrap me and had me arrested on false claims. This is the same person I was in love with and I thought it would last forever

daymon911 · 2016-12-17T13:01:44+00:00

Sounds like you've already accepted it bro. Like you said, "blue pill" is a fantasy. Women are the way they are because they are taught that way from the beginning. Just go your own way, live your life for you. Not for some imaginary fairytale girl

FoxIslander · 2016-12-17T22:11:38+00:00

You bought the dream as most of us did. The faithful wife, happy marriage, white picket fence in the suburbs, adoring kids...it just isn't reality anymore. Remember the stages...shock, anger and acceptance. The sooner you get to the latter the better.

Title	Not completely sure about MGTOW
Author	notaredditguy94
Upvotes	9
Comments	17
Date	December 17, 2016 6:23 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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