At the end of things, is it mostly about financial freedom?

2015-09-16T04:36:02+00:00

its about sanity for me, a fat wife, annoying kids and a divorce is all you get, and don't tell me otherwise Ive SEEN this shit happen all too many times

2015-09-16T04:30:48+00:00

Unfortunately we live in a world with 2 classes. The slave (worker) class and the royalty.

99% are the slaves for the top few. Most of men are slaves to women of their lives.

MGTOW is freedom of time and money. It's about being less of a slave.

thefinn12345 · 2015-09-16T16:04:05+00:00

If you think about it, what is "slavery"? Its 100% ownership of labour. The slave produces, and the master keeps it. Income taxes are, under this definition, slavery-lite, since they only take 30-50% of your productivity.

If you get married and then divorced, you lose your house, your car, your children, half of your liquid assets and you are paying alimony and child support to your ex-wife.

"Wage slave" is not hyperbole this is literally what you would be you are her slave by proxy (via the state which does the actual enforcing). Divorce court is a way for women to, quite literally, enslave men.

Lord-Schadenfreude · 2015-09-16T03:30:05+00:00

Mostly? Sure. In the same way that financial freedom is just eating what you want, wearing what you want, living where you want, and doing what you want.

Honestly, if it were just financial freedom it would be worth it.

Not needing permission to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you do, not being beholden to another human being to do basic things, like chat with friends or to watch something on tv is just icing on the cake right?

Well, how about this. When you're sixty, and still working fifty hours a week because of your child support and sugar babies, and your back is bad and your knees are bad and you're still not ready to retire, you think back about economic freedom.

This is your fucking life we're talking about here.

absurdi5t · 2015-09-16T06:29:20+00:00

Is what mostly about financial freedom? Life? Happiness? Im not sure what you're trying to say here.

Financial freedom and health are the factors that allow you to utilize time the way you want. Time is the only wealth you truly have. Your quality of life is immediately impacted by your ability to satisfy these two factors.

HappyMGTOW · 2015-09-16T04:39:51+00:00

I'm trying to be financially free way before 65. The 9-5 is like 20 year-old underwear for me!

HappyMGTOW · 2015-09-16T04:40:36+00:00

Amen Allen Watts!

dfaer5 · 2015-09-16T12:17:52+00:00

Well, it's hard to be a strong independent MGTOW who don't need no woman when you're living in your mother's basement. So yes, financial freedom is important.

thrownaway_MGTOW · 2015-09-16T12:09:13+00:00

Yes to the extent that "freedom" is the opposite of "bondage/slavery".

Applies to economic/financial aspects as well as other things.

2015-09-16T13:28:19+00:00

YES, and lifestyle demands money earned or physical labor. I'll labor myself, and live more modestly.

me_and_batman · 2015-09-16T19:42:06+00:00

Financial freedom begets you other kinds of freedom. Having $100k liquid means you can travel anywhere you want, you can buy almost any car you want, you can eat anywhere you want, you don't have to sweat losing your job. In fact it allows you the time to look for the exact job you want or even create your own.

Money is a representation of your value in society, and everyone wants to be valued.

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2015-09-16T19:57:48+00:00

That's part of it, but well before financial enslavement, it was and still is primarily about freedom of thought and action to me, as well as giving gynocentrism a middle finger with a smile :) (though it isn't limited to that and it doesn't stop there for me).

I mean, possessions come and go and could be burned down and lost, economic downturns, etc etc, but As with anything, it will vary.

I like what alanwatts said below: "it is about being less of a slave"

One of my favorite songs for well over a decade now:

"Everybody's someone else's nigger / I know you are so am I,

I wasn't born with enough middle fingers / I don't need to choose a side"

AmlanceJockey · 2015-09-18T16:07:52+00:00

Its about physical freedom too. Females will get you locked up. I refuse to go back in over a female. If I did something, fine, take me away, I played the game I lost. But, nothing grinds my gears like being handcuffed because of a bitches feelz.

thefinn12345 · 2015-09-18T16:12:41+00:00

Sanity, emotional freedom, financial freedom, spare time... Fuck I should start making a list.

Title	At the end of things, is it mostly about financial freedom?
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Date	September 16, 2015 2:42 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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