Just a question for the sub

mrp_1844 · 2016-08-16T15:12:08+00:00

The legal system is stacked against relationships.

Its just to dangerous. Even if there are no feminists, the risk is to high.

The game is rigged.

There are manny here who rant against feminists, but it does not change the facts.

There is another post of a guy in Texas spending 2 months in jail on false (lying) charges.

The risk is to high.

Mojo_666 · 2016-08-16T15:04:05+00:00

I don't have an issue with women, I have an issue with relationships with women. Most the guys here have been screwed over by women and simply cannot be bothered with them and/or are avoiding future dramas by doing what they want without women being involved. Some of the guys here are pretty salty still and they have every right to be.

Speaking for myself, having been married, had kids and many relationships, women simply have nothing to offer me anymore, they have nothing I want or need, they have nothing to trade for my money and time. I am simply indiferent to them and a lot happier without them.

mgtow_taway · 2016-08-16T15:33:18+00:00

What makes more sense in today's world. Talking about how the vast majority of women are when nobody else will or talking about the tiny percentage of amazing women that society pretends is the majority

TVTestPattern · 2016-08-16T15:40:28+00:00

Reminds me of this scene from Chasing Amy Scene

Banky Edwards: Alright, now see this? This is a four-way road, okay? And dead in the center is a crisp, new, hundred dollar bill. Now, at the end of each of these streets are four people, okay? You following?

Holden: Yeah.

Banky Edwards: Good. Over here, we have a male-affectionate, easy to get along with, non-political agenda lesbian. Down here, we have a man-hating, angry as fuck, agenda of rage, bitter dyke. Over here, we got Santa Claus, and up here the Easter Bunny. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first?

Holden: What is this supposed to prove?

Banky Edwards: No, I'm serious. This is a serious exercise. It's like an SAT question. Which one is going to get to the hundred dollar bill first? The male-friendly lesbian, the man-hating dyke, Santa Claus, or the Easter bunny?

Holden: The man-hating dyke.

Banky Edwards: Good. Why?

Holden: I don't know.

Banky Edwards: [shouting] Because the other three are figments of your fucking imagination!

blippyz · 2016-08-16T15:05:08+00:00

Not everyone is ranting. But there are certain principles that are unavoidable if you have a vagina, just like there are some that are unavoidable if you have a penis. Sure there are some angry people here, and sometimes they point to the outliers, but certain patterns cannot be avoided. If you came here for a legitimate reason, hang around, read through the comments. There is occasional wisdom.

FraterGGNM · 2016-08-16T18:40:00+00:00

Let me ask you a question. If I were to pour out a bag of candy into a bowl and offer it to you with the statement "There are a small percentage of these candies that aren't lethally poisoned," would you take one and eat it? That's essentially the same question you are asking here. The risk/benefit test fails miserably here. Same with women. There may be some, I don't know any and am not going to risk anything that I have now, will have, or want to have out of life to find out.

the-capitan · 2016-08-16T15:31:54+00:00

general polling says the % of women who are feminazis is slightly under 10%. so no, most women are not that psychotically deluded about reality. it's easy to point at the crazies and say AWALT, but in reality, most women actively try and distance themselves from that shit nowadays.

the problem is the actual AWALT shit... AF/BB, the cock carousel, the wall, hamstering, solipsism, divorce rape, hypergamy. all of that shit is real. for a lot of guys, MGTOW is just the anger phase of swallowing the red pill. some guys emerge from this and go fully red pill, while others just stay MGTOW.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2016-08-16T17:07:37+00:00

My ex wife was great and wonderful and we got along wonderfully. Then the ring was on. Then I filed for divorce and her true nature came out.

Look at the divorce rate and tell me that every single man is the idiot, they just all made bad decisions and the good women are still out there.

In my first live in relationship, my now ex girlfriend and I were sitting at a bar and laughing it up and such, and she was bragging to our friends how good I was and how great life was, etc. After we left, I said "Why did you tell them such bullshit?" She said "I can't look bad in front of them."

DigitalScetis · 2016-08-16T18:11:20+00:00

The women who don't care about feminism, generally, don't care about our rants. And when they do notice our rants, they generally stay away (maybe because they are afraid, deep down, that we are right).

The anti-feminists are somewhat worse, typically of the tradcon variety, who shame us for not "manning up" to whatever they want us to do for them. But they are easy to shut up once we make it very clear how little their shame works against us.

The anti-feminists I care about (non-tradcons), for the most part, understand why MGTOW rant the way that they do, and they stay away. They may disagree with some things, but they generally do not shame, and they do not call us "toxic" or "violent." But these women are rare.

Brokemgtow · 2016-08-16T19:02:12+00:00

We are ranting against the system. Also, is not socially acceptable to rant about women, fuck that, i could care less about ranting about them, but if my brothers want to rant and call em every name in the book that is their experience, i wont stop them.

If women are part of the system knowing whats going on, Then yes the problem is all women, there are so many dam examples, i mean just thinking about writing them down makes my hand cramp and i feel like i will get arthritis.

But i will tell you this, aside from how invisible men are in about every aspect of society. Take the current movement going on of women fighting alimony. Yea, BECAUSE 3% of women are paying alimony, do you realize how ridicules that is. Women already have organized and are starting to deal with their 3% "problem" by taking it to national television. While men have been dying and paying that shit for years Bruh!!! Fucking years

.... 3%... Just 3 fucking %.....

That is their reaction to all issues that men deal with, as long as it doesnt affect them it doesnt exist.

If society doesnt approve of masculinity ill take my masculinity and productivity else were.

Real_nimr0d · 2016-08-16T20:52:59+00:00

I read a great piece on it

"To understand female nature, think of Islam. There are so-called moderates who don't behave in a violent/reprehensible manner, but there are extremists who do. The extremists follow the scriptures prescriptions of violence and bigotry, but moderates may not. Yet those same so-called moderates may still take full advantage of what the extremists have fought for (Censorship of language in regards to criticizing Islam, for example), and they refuse to condemn any specific Islamic militia/regime (ie, Isis, Saudi laws, etc). They want the same thing that the extremists want, but they don't take the extreme path to secure what violent Muslims have; they just reap the rewards.

Likewise, women who don't act on their nature are still enjoying the benefits feminists and genuine misandrists have acquired for them. They still enjoy alimony, palimony, child support, lower fitness standards for combat and emergency services, unfair, gynocentric laws, etc. They distance themselves from feminism, but they still want what the feminists want, albeit without the label."

Source

EZemm · 2016-08-16T16:47:12+00:00

NAWALT

logophiliac · 2016-08-16T20:50:33+00:00

There aren't different rules for these women to play by; the rules are set up for all women to fuck up all men.

2016-08-16T23:39:28+00:00

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Knxguymgy · 2016-08-17T00:10:59+00:00

Irrelevent.

Doesnt matter what they say, do or think. "i would never do that to a guy" "im not like that" yadda yadda yadda.

Theyre still legal liabilities. The LAW makes them one, so what these so called "NAWALTs" say is irrelevent.

fezha · 2016-08-17T00:46:00+00:00

Young guy here. I almost married, twice.

This sub houses some older and successful folks. Bitter guys. Guys who learned the hard way after a midlife crisis. And some guys who dodged a bullet. To me, there had to be some truth here.

Unfortunately, whether good women are out there or not, the system is heavily stacked against men. Some people think that's nonsense, and theyre free to believe it. I don't want to contest the system, I don't want to be broke. Do women have it better today than 60 years ago? Of course and that's fine. Women neeed opportunities, but this sub isn't about that. Most of us are simply electing to be out of the game. We are not anti feminists or anti women, we simply elect to not play the rat race and juggle a relationship. It comes with risk, heartache, and too much grief. Every singlr man here has a slightly different view of things. I think women can be competent, smart and successful. Meaning, they don't need me:a man. Thats what women wanted, right?

While some of my buddies are saving for a house, a ring and a home, I'm saving for a near new Corvette.

Charles_Offdensen · 2016-08-17T03:59:23+00:00

Women against feminism tend to be trad cons who blame feminism for men not settling down and giving her resources I'm exchange for sex. Most won't even associate with the Mrm even though they pander and grovel at their feet trying to get women on their side. They still see men as disposable and display the same behaviours as feminists they just have a different way of going about things.

thedudeth · 2016-08-17T13:40:34+00:00

From my perspective the problem with relationships at the moment is this. Let's say that you find the mythical fantastic woman and that she wants to be with you. At any point in the future if that woman decides that she wants to leave you she can and she will be entitled to most of your assets and a large chunk of future earnings, can get a restraining order on no more than her word, get custody of your kids and so on.

With that much power and absolutely no costs to herself for exercising them, why on earth wouldn't she use them when things get tough in the relationship. There is simply no incentive not to. Even the most amazing woman is very unlikely to stay that way given the incredible power that is afforded them.

Title	Just a question for the sub
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Date	August 16, 2016 2:57 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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