I'm tied to my sexual desires, and I want to break from them.

MGTOWmike · 2015-05-04T12:25:47+00:00

I would recommend trying mindful meditation. It takes a while to get the hang of but by being more mindful you will be able to catch these sexual desires as they arise in your head and let them go away before you end up acting on them.

I like to think of women as the worlds greatest distraction. They have such beautiful bodies designed to steal your focus and make you desire them. When you realise that its all in an effort to manipulate your thoughts and feelings to make you want to procreate with them you'll be able to rise above your most primal urges. Be strong brother.

2015-05-04T08:00:42+00:00

You are not a creep or a perv for stealing the occasional glance, That is very hard to break from for me; and I am a self proclaimed MGTOW monk. As to what you can do. Oldredder hits it well with hobby. Find a hobby, the more creative the hobby the better. I personally like to paint. Also consider porn, but don't use it regularly. I find it is nice to have porn as a release valve for when I need something more than my imagination. Look at sex like an addiction to be managed rather than an impulse to overcome, not everyone can quit cold-turkey and I know in the past the more pent-up I let myself be - the more prone to stupid choices I become. The same is true for when I allow myself to sexually overindulge, I start looking for the better release. It is a balancing act between gratification and denial IMHO.

2015-05-04T12:33:39+00:00

I live in a large city with a shitload of amazing unbelievable eye candy. I've been MGTOW for years but still look. It's just human nature, wired into a mans brain. Admiring is fine, but just never forget that she's more trouble than she's worth.

Im_Justin_Cider · 2015-05-04T09:09:04+00:00

You're not a ceep for looking, you're just acting out your instinctual biological drives. If brad pitt sneaked a look, passed a compliment, hell, even smacked them on the butt. He would not be called a creep for doing so. Instead the women will go weak at the knees and brag about how brad Pitt told them "her eyes sparkle under the moonlight" or whatever.

You see, it's not the action that makes it creepy its the SMV (sexual market value) of the actor, that deems the act creepy. If your SMV is higher than hers, you're safe. If it's lower, you're in trouble.

The whole creep thing is created and maintained by women in order to make possible being sexy to attract the higher SMV males while at the same time discourage all the lower SMV males whose attraction and interest would otherwise render this behaviour too tedious to maintain.

I'm telling you this because it's important that you know the social spell under which you operate, so you have the power to overcome it if you wish.

Addendum: Incidentally, if one of these girls happens to be your girlfriend, and she continues to display this kind of behaviour, you've got yourself a branch swinger. It would be wise not to invest too much into her.

77seventy6 · 2015-05-04T11:24:10+00:00

1) Read Kierkegaard. Either/Or.

2) Think about population issues. Seriously.

3) Consider the costs of children.

4) Consider the costs of marriage.

5) Realize life is what you make it. It is a competition with no one. Find other things to occupy your time.

Omega_Effect · 2015-05-04T14:32:53+00:00

"This results in frequently trying to sneak glances at women to check their breasts, butts, legs, and so on. I often feel as though I'm a creep or a pervert, but am I?"

Twats check out men too. But they only do this to high SMV men. Twats don't get called "creeps" by society for doing it. #FemaleHypocrisy Actually, the best thing you can do is to IGNORE twats altogether. It's not difficult. Just imagine what they look like without all the make-ups, push-up bras and other fake things that they need to look good. Imagine what they look like post-Wall with the crow's feet, saggy everything everywhere.

MuscleCarz · 2015-05-04T16:43:58+00:00

Another MGTOW Brother wrote this on another thread, but we've all done it/do it and it just plain works...

"I need a girlfriend!"

Rubs one out...

"No I don't"

Don't get frustrated at your testosterone running high, celebrate it. Testosterone builds muscle, heals our bodies and gives us the drive to achieve great things.

Some prefer, celibacy and abstinence, some prefer sex. Fine.

I prefer keeping the plumbing from getting backed-up, which also keeps the frustration level down. Channeling sex energy into resistance training helps too.

oldredder · 2015-05-04T06:27:32+00:00

1) get hookers. They're legal in Canada & Thailand, one is nearer to America, one is cheaper for tons of pussy

2) PUA type stuff: youtube, RSD, especially Todd's channel

3) hobbies, serious ones that keep your mind occupied with real interest: may not work for those lacking motivation, discipline or higher intellect, but depends on the hobby. Over time you could get good at a thing and feel dedicated to it

4) drugs. Morphine & cocaine for a man can remove sex drive because you like getting high instead. HOWEVER, drugs & addiction have horrible side-effects. I speak from personal experience and went this route

It's contradictions like this that frustrate me day after day when I come home from work feeling ashamed of myself for desiring what I feel attracted to.

That is simply the blue-pill in-the-Matrix lie that society wants you to believe. Women want men to look at them and objectify them but they only want the men to do so who they already find attractive. If you want to get away with checking out women even very obviously you need to be fit and dress well and always be attentive to hygiene so good breath, always regular showers. Decide which looks better: clean-shaved or a bit of a beard. You can't please every woman but one of these will look better on your face. Do that.

ky_windage · 2015-05-04T08:43:29+00:00

Keep going, you're getting close. Use caution at work (blindspots are a bitch because you can't see you're being watched meanwhile you're line of sight is easy to track), at first I had to use spite to willfully ignore beauty. Spite has turned into apathy and self-motivation/self-interest, the result now is a casual awareness that people are around but your attention is elsewhere. Know that beauty is a siren's call that can be ignored with the right attitude. Women spend years growing up figuring out when someone is trying to ignore them and when they simply aren't noticed. For many women the later is rare and an insult they try not to acknowledge in public. Your goal is a total (genuine) disregard for their outward appearance and when you have to interact, be peasantly surprised if they have a personality, then move on.

jeruka · 2015-05-04T19:52:06+00:00

I feel you man. I've always had pretty much the same problems. I think mgtow has helped me to lose some of my attraction towards females. The process is slow, but it nevertheless is happening. I find it easier just to let those feeling be and not act on them after becoming mgtow. I do believe that if you are in the mgtow mindset rationally long enough that mindset is gonna start affecting your sexual drives also. Personally I think that masturbation is a big help. Besides I love that post come clarity moment after shooting my load. It feels like breaking free from the primitive animal inside you and being able to be a full human being again.

So I would say that you're on right track. Just give it time and don't whip yourself too much for occasional relapses. They happen to all of us. Good luck man!

cock_pussy_up · 2015-05-05T00:47:18+00:00

The obvious solution is fapping. Lots and lots of fapping.

2015-05-04T20:24:03+00:00

Oh, so a year ago, around this same time of year, is when I finally made the decision to separate myself from women and their fucked up games.

I met this chick, a friend of a friend, and I was really into her. Like, wanted to date her. We hung out a few times, and that eventually turned into sitting in front of my house making out all night.

About two weeks into us spending time together, she started wanting sex. I told her that I didn't want have sex yet because I was really into her, and wanted to pursue an actual relationship with her. For me, sex is way better when it's with someone I care for deeply. She responded by questioning my "aggressiveness" as a male. I asked her how she felt about choking, slapping, etc and she was offended that I would suggest such aggression.

K.

By this point I should have just moved on to greener pastures, but I didn't.

One night when we were making out in front of my house she wanted me to take her inside for sex. I reiterated what I had said before about wanting to develop a relationship first. That didn't go over well with her at all. She immediately turned off all promiscuity (not that I asked for any to begin with) and started huffing and puffing like a goddamn child. I pleaded with her, like an idiot, to be more reasonable. The night ended with her leaving in a pissy mood. I figured whatever, she'll get over it.

So a couple weeks went by, and she kept hounding me about all of this. Telling me she's starting to feel unattractive, this and that. I eventually caved and invited her over (not explicitly for sex). When she showed up (again, the invitation wasn't for sex) she was dressed to kill. Tight-fighting dress that showed lots of cleavage and barely covered her amazing ass. I turned on a movie for us to watch, and after some time I started getting sexual. Caressing her thigh, nipping at her neck, etc. She pushed me away. I thought it was just her doing the typical "im a woman and you have to work harder for it" thing. So I kept doing it here and there throughout the movie.

Eventually she submitted to the affection and we went to my room. The activity that took place...I wouldn't even call it sexual intercourse. She just lied there in my bed, naked, one arm covering her breasts so I couldn't them. She had a look of utmost boredom, and I stop mid-stroke to ask what's going on. Whoops. That set her off like I could never have foreseen. She pushed me off and a huge argument erupted and she said I cared too much about what was bothering her. She also accused me of pressuring her into having sex that night with all of my touching and kissing. She ended up storming out, slamming every fucking door she passed through, and drove away like a fucking maniac.

I texted her the next day, explaining what a rude little twat she was the previous night. She of course blamed me but ultimately wanted to try again. I told her no and that I no longer wanted to do anything with her. As I expected, she started with insults against my heterosexuality and masculinity, telling me she "usually doesn't even go for fat guys," just doing whatever she could to try and take me down to her shit-ridden level. Wasn't happening. I set my phone on the charger and proceeded to my garage to work on some music. Haven't spoken to her since.

Title	I'm tied to my sexual desires, and I want to break from them.
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Date	May 4, 2015 6:07 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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