Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’

cfuse · 2015-04-29T14:48:00+00:00

The fact is, women need men’s linear career goals – they need men to pick up the slack at the office – in order to live the balanced life they seek.

No thank you. If this is the attitude they bring into the workplace, consider the attitude they will bring into a marriage. What about the balanced life that I seek?

I do not want to involve the government in a personal relationship, especially when it is to my detriment. Therefore I have opted out of marriage and fatherhood.

scarredlife · 2015-04-29T14:59:54+00:00

I love the fact that the female author doesn't blame us men but feminism. There's even no male-shaming like calling us immature or irresponsible involved. That's quite uncommon these days, isn't it?

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997.

No wonder, women have realised that finding an idiot who will marry you basically is a financial free ticket with all the divorce laws on their side. It's a win-win situation for them, regardless of getting divorced or keeping that fucker as a donor, they can't go wrong either way.

Venker said, she has “accidentally stumbled upon a subculture” of men who say “in no uncertain terms, that they’re never getting married.”

MGTOW all the way, Baby!

Isaiah4verse1 · 2015-04-29T20:30:23+00:00

My reason for not wanting marriage has nothing to do with feminism or the current state of women. I am disgusted by base female nature and I will not be a plow horse for cupcake no matter what she brings to the table.

kizzan · 2015-04-29T13:57:19+00:00

I am hoping thus trend agaisnt marriage is not just because of the econmy.

2015-04-29T16:38:56+00:00

True in 2013 and even more so in 2015.

2015-04-30T00:12:26+00:00

Lets keep in mind that this website seeks to destroy gays, planned parenthood, and choice to have an abortion. It is highly polarized and religious clickbait.

muramuramura · 2015-04-30T07:45:51+00:00

Don't give them more money: https://archive.is/BBkZ1

2015-05-01T11:01:40+00:00

I'm against marriage because the trend that I've noticed with a lot of women in my life is that they sit around idling in a low income job, partying every night under the guise of finding themselves when in reality what they are doing is waiting for an unsuspecting provider to walk by so they can leech onto him.

ss_camaro · 2015-04-29T16:40:36+00:00

Completely disagree. I don't want to marry because there are very few women who are genuine egalitarians/feminists, meaning interested in a relationship between equals. I welcome the idea that there should be absolutely no male/female power dynamic in a relationship. However, the sad truth of the matter from my perspective is that most women want a superior, not an equal, no matter how much feminist ideology they espouse -- their actions speak differently.

Feminism is not bad if it's aimed towards achieving actual equality. Unfortunately it seldom is. Few things are more funny than a self-proclaimed feminist still expecting men to ask her out or to pay on dates, etc.

2015-04-30T14:01:29+00:00

Decent article...Too bad they make the common mistake of blaming feminism for the sexodus, for men going their own way and not women's general nature (which is not evil or bad merely a biological-social descriptive reality) simply made more bare (gynocentrism more manifest) via feminism. Women could ban feminism tomorrow, but would they give up all the gynocentirc laws and social privileges that they acquired from it? No. I didn't think they would. As bar bar said perfectly, women simply have mostly dropped the feminism label because it has dropped out of fashion, but the sexual dynamics haven't gone away.

Redpillc0re · 2015-05-01T13:26:49+00:00

I am very glad for gay marriage. By removing the weights attached by tradition/religion to marriage, it becomes an instrument of the free market: Those who see an objective benefit will go for it. Those who don't , won't. Modern societies are still deeply dependent on marriage and nuclear family; that doesnt mean it should be the case though. Marriage should become just one option in an open market of alternatives.

harv83 · 2015-04-30T08:39:07+00:00

Copy pasta of the news.

Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’

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Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.

Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time.

Pew’s findings have caught the attention of one US writer who maintains that feminism, deeply entrenched in every segment of the culture, has created an environment in which young men find it more beneficial to simply opt out of couple-dom entirely.

Suzanne Venker’s article, “The War on Men,” which appeared on the website of Fox News in late November, has become a lodestone for feminist writers who have attacked her position that the institution of marriage is threatened, not enhanced, by the supposed gains of the feminist movement over the last 50 years.

“Where have all the good (meaning marriageable) men gone?” is a question much talked about lately in the secular media, Venker says, but her answer, backed up by statistics, is not to the liking of mainstream commentators influenced by feminism.

She points out that for the first time in US history, the number of women in the workforce has surpassed the number of men, while more women than men are acquiring university degrees.

“The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women,” Venker wrote. With feminism pushing them out of their traditional role of breadwinner, protector and provider – and divorce laws increasingly creating a dangerously precarious financial prospect for the men cut loose from marriage – men are simply no longer finding any benefit in it.

As a writer and researcher into the trends of marriage and relationships, Venker said, she has “accidentally stumbled upon a subculture” of men who say “in no uncertain terms, that they’re never getting married.”

“When I ask them why, the answer is always the same: women aren’t women anymore.” Feminism, which teaches women to think of men as the enemy, has made women “angry” and “defensive, though often unknowingly.”

“Now the men have nowhere to go. It is precisely this dynamic – women good/men bad – that has destroyed the relationship between the sexes. Yet somehow, men are still to blame when love goes awry.”

“Men are tired,” Venker wrote. “Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.”

Click “like” if you want to defend true marriage.

Feminism and the sexual revolution have simply made marriage “obsolete” for women as a social and economic refuge, but this is a situation that should not be celebrated by feminists, Venker says.

“It’s the women who lose. Not only are they saddled with the consequences of sex, by dismissing male nature they’re forever seeking a balanced life. The fact is, women need men’s linear career goals – they need men to pick up the slack at the office – in order to live the balanced life they seek.”

A cross section of research data from the Pew Research Center for the last months of 2012 shows the alarming trends for marriage and child-bearing in the US. One report published in mid-December said that the latest census data showed “barely half” of all adults in the United States are currently married, a “record low”. Since 1960, the number of married adults has decreased from 72 percent to 51 today and the number of new marriages in the U.S. declined by five percent between 2009 and 2010.

Moreover, the median age at first marriage continues to rise with women getting married the first time at 26.5 years and men at 28.7. The declines in marriage are “most dramatic” among young adults. Just 20 percent of those aged 18 to 29 are married, compared with 59 percent in 1960.

“If current trends continue, the share of adults who are currently married will drop to below half within a few years,” the report said.

Moreover, the link between marriage and childrearing has become disconnected in the minds of the so-called Millennial generation, those between 18 and 29. While 52 percent of Millennials say being a good parent is “one of the most important things” in life, just 30 per cent say the same about having a successful marriage, an attitudinal survey found.

The gap, of 22 percentage points, between the value Millennials place on parenthood over marriage, was just 7 points in 1997. The research found that Millennials, many of whom are the children of divorce and single-parenthood themselves, are also less likely than their elders to say that a child needs both a father and mother at home, that single parenthood and unmarried couple parenthood are bad for society.

Title	Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Author	MisanthropEnmity
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Comments	56
Date	April 29, 2015 12:27 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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