Are Women Immoral By Nature Or By Social Engineering & Mind Control

stunningandbrave · 2015-12-24T06:03:15+00:00

Hypergamy doesn't care. It's nature.

RfrankieR · 2015-12-24T03:37:15+00:00

Immoral by nature but now that society not only doesn't criticize them for acting thusly but actively encourages it they have gone feral.

2015-12-24T04:41:14+00:00

Mind control, no question. Men are affected as well, but it affects women more because they are right brain dominant, they don't have as strong a cognitive filter that men do. But both genders are being manipulated by massive mind control, at all levels.

ss_camaro · 2015-12-24T12:03:42+00:00

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User-31f64a4e · 2015-12-24T15:55:29+00:00

Behavior is an emergent phenomenon.
There is basic hard wiring, which can cause a variety of outcomes.
Given a different environments, the same genes will cause different behaviors.

Currently in the West, female nature comes out as unrestrained hypergamy and unlimited selfishness.

thrownaway_MGTOW · 2015-12-24T06:25:06+00:00

Both.

Isaiah4verse1 · 2015-12-24T11:41:37+00:00

Both

decompyler · 2015-12-24T12:40:11+00:00

Yup anyone that claims that our current condition is human nature, have no idea what is going on. Our nature is that we are completly and easily programmable.

oldredder · 2015-12-24T05:22:34+00:00

Nature.

It's possible being raised by good parents for a better outcome. That being said I think most men are immoral by nature too. And the cure is the same.

T0000009 · 2015-12-24T13:16:03+00:00

Humans are still animals, so we are trainable, and can be conditioned with rewards or punishments....

At this point it's a combinations of both.

Subcommandante_Khan · 2015-12-24T15:54:18+00:00

Woman's evil nature is hypergamy, gossip, and exploitation of men and children.

Men's evil nature is destruction and coercion.

Both result from the powers of which both are capable. Women are capable of building families and communities if they desire to do so, but left to their devices they can sow discord.

Men are capable of building technology, defending and creating civilization, but left to their own devices they can destroy civilizations.

It's a matter of nature and incentives.

ss_camaro · 2015-12-24T17:35:04+00:00

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EsteemedRenfrew · 2015-12-24T20:12:41+00:00

You have to have morality to be considered immoral. In the case of women, I would call it amorality instead- they simply have no guiding principles or code of ethics. You have to force it upon them.

All the women of the past were amoral too. The only difference is that for most of history, women have fallen under the management of various social and cultural institutions which served to limit their ability to express baseline behavior and act upon it.

Patriarchy, slut shaming, religion... these were all systems designed by men to mold the behavior of both genders in ways that are conducive to maintaining stable large-scale civilizations. If you want to exist above the level of tribal hunter-gathering, you can't have men raiding every village they come across, and you can't have women engaging freely in hypergamy, cuckolding, spawning bastard children, and all the other nasty shit they do today. It just doesn't work. The baseline behavior of women especially is diametrically opposed to civilized society.

What's happened in the West is that we've absolved women of all responsibility to those systems of behavioral limitation, and encouraged them to do whatever they want. There is an element of social engineering there, but it's not that substantial. Women have taken to it seamlessly, because they love the hell out of it.

They'll continue loving the hell out of it until our society falls apart and it becomes so dangerous that women can't leave the house without an escort. When that day comes, they'll blame men and demand that we fix it.

the-tominator · 2015-12-25T11:09:45+00:00

Both. Human and female nature tends towards certain things that society used to suppress. Now it doesn't suppress and even encourages the bad elements of female human nature they are much more prevalent. Meanwhile the bad elements of male human nature are still largely suppressed.

So it's both working together to create what we see now.

2015-12-25T00:25:05+00:00

The whole concept of "hypergamy" is, by its very nature, a mildly sociopathic concept. A sociopath has no empathy they use people as means to ends with no regard for the people themselves. Replace "people" with "men" specifically, and you have the definition of "hypergamy".

2015-12-25T01:20:50+00:00

Humans are amoral by default, IMO. The bedrock of morality is biology, we make adjustments and fine-tuning as we go on, to our basic biological needs to derive our moral mental-framework. Men are tempted to inseminate as many females, and women are tempted to be hypergamous. This is because human-reproduction is extremely unfair to females, and they need a strong supporting provider while being incapacitated by pregnancy and nursing. But the net effect is that men become the primary victims of female nature, as I've explained here . The final dose of Red Pill before you awaken is, to realize that a significant part of our day-to-day behaviors and decisions are propelled by our biology; and as such, All Women Are Like That. Or at least, enough of them are, that you should use extreme caution during any interaction with a female, or if convenient, just minimize female interaction altogether.

Sure there are risks associated with dealing with a man, but the risks are far greater, and far-reaching when it comes to women. Men inherently are watchful of other men, because of male tendency to dominate and compete. Our biology aids us in being cautious about other men. But we're biologically completely blind-sided to the slights of women. If not careful, they will break you as a human being. You can have you career ruined, your life taken away from you, all at the unquestioned word of a female, who can do all this with little to no repercussions to themselves.

So no, they're not evil, they're just really bad for your well-being.

General_Fear · 2015-12-25T04:09:09+00:00

When a shark eats a human being. Is it evil or just feeding?

When women chew men up and spit them out, are they evil? Maybe by your point of view. Women are just doing what they do best. Use their sexuality to get men to jump thru hoops and get free stuff from men. Even hot lesbians will use their sexuality and toy with a man's affection in order to get what they want.

Dakarius · 2015-12-25T06:18:03+00:00

This video would fit comfortably in /r/conspiracy

Title	Are Women Immoral By Nature Or By Social Engineering & Mind Control
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Date	December 24, 2015 3:16 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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