Nervous Breakdown: MGTOW Truth and Depression/Shame

HerbivoreUSA · 2015-11-13T04:04:17+00:00

You're still in a better postition than most men that become MGTOW, you weren't married and you don't have kids with this bitch. She honestly did you a favor, thanks to her you learned the true nature of women. The adjustment is gonna be tough, we all went through it, but it gets easier with time. Go work on yourself, drink, party, fuck prostitutes, smoke weed, just do whatever the hell makes you happy. Cleanse your mind from all that love dovey blue pill garbage, and join the dark side where men are actually men

oldredder · 2015-11-13T06:51:35+00:00

The shift is gradual, you need to know the skills to live better and just do it. Eventually you get comfortable with having resources and stability. You never should have had a drive to be someone else's wallet and to thrive off validation of the (apparent) attraction from a snake in the grass that is woman.

T0000009 · 2015-11-13T09:01:11+00:00

despite the lack of emotional fulfillment and rewarding relationships in my life.

Something I rarely see mentioned is the contrast of this situation. You need to understand that females quite literally from birth until death are bombarded with emotional fulfillment and rewarding relationships. Men pursue females daily, they are lauded with prise for simply breathing, and the entire modern world was built to satisfy their every desire and meet any need or whim.

Females don't earn or create anything, whatever they have was handed to them on a silver platter just because. As a man you have had no such treatment and you never will, it's a tough thing to consider and painful to fully grasp, but that is the way it is.

However you have what no female ever can take, and that is the innate ability to take charge of your own life, to make a plan and see it through, to sacrifice for something more, to earn your keep. Females can't do that, it's way beyond their ability, and is too much a hassle to even consider because they know some chump will always be there to bail them out, and repair the damage from all their mistakes. A man will do all the work and she will sit there waiting for the mystical rainbow when it appears.

You're the guy who designed the fucking rainbow, and built the yellow brick road she walks on.... That ain't to bad, so have a cold one and just smirk the next time some bitch runs her yap about how little you do.

2015-11-14T20:33:59+00:00

I suggest philosophy and physics (natural philosophy). Why?

Because you are facing an existential crisis. -To have wanted to kill yourself is evidence of this. You've been shaken to the core and questioned your very existence.

Old goals, old ways of thinking no longer seem sufficient.

" -do you want a name for this world? A solution for all its riddles? A light for you, too, you best-concealed, strongest, most intrepid, most midnightly men?-This world is the will to power-and nothing besides! And you yourselves are also this will to power-and nothing besides!" - Nietzsche

At base, you are a sack of atoms, subject to dynamic forces. You are also a dynamic force.

You have greater access to your thoughts than anyone else has. No one, thus, has the possibility to love you greater than your capacity to love yourself.

This is learned.

Learn what you are. Reclaim yourself.

My advice to you is to study critically. It is helpful to have a systematic approach to avoid pitfalls starting out. Logic, the scientific method, the Socratic method - are good examples of systematic approaches which (despite being sometimes "counter-intuitive") are powerful tools.

Many men here might recommend meditation... It has its uses. Some thoughts require relaxed contemplation and "good digestion"... Others require a storm, a mountain, biting winds, fury, and cold.

Historically, men go, perhaps, into a desert. They call it a spiritual journey. Walk in with a shaved head, walk out with a beard.

I did something similar... The desert.

Edward Abbey, the desert anarchist (though he was not as much of a capitalist as me) was an initial inspiration... He could never figure out the desert - why he was drawn to it... I know. I've known on some level for a very long time the draw of the desert.

Lawrence of Arabia said, when asked what he liked about the desert responded, "because it is clean."

But it is more.

It is hostile. It... Represents death.

Like a shock to a heart in fibrillation - it can revive a sick man. The desert was just a tool for me to quiet my life. Others go on sea voyages, or whatever. It will be different from me to you, and anyone else.

The realization of your death, however, has a way of focussing a man. "Let that which is not important truly slide." As Tyler Durdin might suggest.

What is worth your life?

Now that women's mask is askew, and you can peer past the veil of social fictions - you must ask what is truly important.

I cannot tell you.

I can tell you what I find important:

Power for life, the science of the substance of life. Powerful knowledge. A goal for immense health in the face of the ultimate chaos (which will one day even kill the universe, if the universe can "die" - a heat death). Maxwell and Gibbs knew... These dead giants; "if I have been able to see farther, then it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants." As Newton might say.

To see farther. That is what is most important to me. To see. The proto-indo-european root "wid" - to see... With cognates of "wit"... And "wisdom". The condition of having great sight, in a sense, is wisdom. Philosophy is the love of wisdom. Natural philosophy (science by another name) let me see a great deal. To understand the heat death of the universe, intimately, is great sight.

And, like I said, to know death one finds great focus on what is important.

Maybe you'll be like vention, and your garden and prepping is what you love. Maybe you'll be like turdflingingmonkey and find financial planning is important. Maybe you'll be like Tesla and find electrical engineering is what is dearest. Or maybe you'll be like me and find biochemistry/biotechnology most vital.

It is not for me to say.

Good luck, sir.

2015-11-13T15:41:09+00:00

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2015-11-13T22:55:34+00:00

I am going to be posting a write up soon to help men cope. The answer is to become your own life project, to better yourself rather than channelizing your masculine energy outward. You can be happy and alone, but you have to reprogram yourself.

Baldr209 · 2015-11-14T02:39:26+00:00

start working out, start meditating, (mindfulness meditation.) and read Man's Search for Meaning by viktor frankl.

Title	Nervous Breakdown: MGTOW Truth and Depression/Shame
Author	bluesguitarz
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Date	November 13, 2015 3:54 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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