TL;DR: I share three experiences of my failed LTRs and what I learned. If she doesn't add value to your life or makes you less happy than you should be get rid of her. Basic RP. Lift. Increase SMV. Dread game. Amused mastery. Pass shit tests. Never lose frame. Never take back an ex. The relationship will never be the same. She is used goods and your time will be better spent moving on and fucking new people. Always remember what TRP taught you about women and people and never forget it. It's a lifestyle which I seemed to have forgot in each one of these failed LTRs. Embrace the pain and move on. There is no unicorn. AWALT. This is all coming from a 20yr old who still has his entire life to live, yet experienced so much, with lots more on the way.
Also if everyone is telling you not to get back with an ex or giving you solid advice, don't ignore them. Take their advice and run like Hell.
Remember, taking back an EX is like a dog going back and eating its own vomit. Are you a dog? The lessons I learned are at the bottom of the thread.
Post: Hello! I've been a long time lurker of the subreddit and have really ever posted a couple threads. I'm going to share with you guys what happened during my previous LTR's and how my BP mindset and conditioning dictated my behavior. Also what I learned from it and how TRP has helped me. This isn't a post to brag or boast. Simply to share as others may have found themselves in similar positions.
Before I share I'd like to explain my background. Father was never around after I turned 12. Mother raised me. I'm currently a 20yr full-time college student, good PT job, nice car, loving family (with the exclusion of dad). I also lift and have been since I was 16. I'm also in the military.
I have always had TRP mindset deep in my subconcious but after my very first LTR I turned full BP. My sex count is fairly high for my age (not bragging). I have only ever been in three serious relationships but have plated and fucked around with many other women. Lost my virginity when I was 12 (again, not bragging).
First serious LTR 4 years
Enter Jane. Meet a cute girl online from one of my plates. We chat a bit and hit it up. First off months are great. We text, send nudes, etc. during this time I was only 14 and just starting HS. Anyway the girl was recently dumped by her ex. During this time she somewhat made me an orbiter. She consistently said she did not want a boyfriend but I pushed until she finally caved in, and not in the right direction. She stopped talking to me. One month after we stop chatting she gets a boyfriend. I confront her. She hamsters a bit "I wasn't ready at the time." etc etc. long story short. The new guy breaks up with her, she comes to me and we get into an LTR. First few years were great. I obviously didn't talk her seriously so I plated other women. She knew I had female friends and would get mad but I'd always ignore her complaints. Eventually I gave up plating and fully committed to her. BIG MISTAKE.
I shipped off to basic when I was 17. During that time my LTR, we'll call her Jane. Was still sending me letters and shit. XXX shit too. Anyway when I returned to finish Senior year, shit changed. Jane would ask to hang out with other men, of course I'd disapprove but the thought never left her mind. I knew the relationship with Jane was failing so I started to detatch and pursue other women again.
Second LTR, started off as FWB
Enter Jessica. I met Jessica while I was with Jane. Jane never knew but Jessica and I were FWB. Jessica would suck my dick in my car and I'd fondle her but she'd never let me fuck. Eventually she did though but I'll get to that. Now Jessica had been around the block. She gave head and had sexual encounters with other men but never let them fuck.
Sidenote: I took Jane's virginity and also Jessica's.
Anyway eventually things got sour with Jane. She broke up with me two days before my graduation and a month before I was due to continue my military training, AIT.
I was a wreck. I wanted to stay with her. Major oneitis. Anyway two weeks after the break up Jane was already sucking and fucking another guy. AWALT.
Now back to Jessica. Jessica and I had a real connection. We talked about everything. She knew I was military, she knew I had plates, and she knew I was with Jane. Even when Jessica got boyfriends she would still fuck around with me (RED FLAG).
Anyway my first week of AIT Jessica and I got into and argument. I ended things with her and continued to enjoy my experience away from home.
** My first LDR**
Enter Ashley
I meet Ashley during AIT. She was sexually experienced and had the same sex drive as me. We clicked instantly. The first few weeks were great. I fingered her, she gave me head, couldn't fuck because well, AIT. She saw me as Alpha. Fit, high SMV, etc. Everyone thinks I'm older than I am, I never reveal my age to a woman. During this time Ashley was 19yrs old. She thought I was 23yrs old. (sadly at this time only 18) anyway.
I told Ashley I wanted her to come visit me after and fly down. Now this is where shit got sour. She would go out during personal time and talk to other guys, she would treat me like shit, and I would become feminine, emotional, and start mate guarding. AIT ended and after two weeks of it being over and Ashley came down to visit. She stayed with me and my mom for two weeks. I PAID for her plane ticket (beta bucks I know).
Ashley and I fucked like rabbits everyday. When she went back home I wanted to continue the relationship. My first LDR. Obviously it failed. Around this time I was back in contact with Jessica. When I first arrived home I spent the night at Jessicas house making out with her and shit. Still didn't fuck.
Ashley and I ended. To this day she still tries to reel me in by saying she loves me and will be coming back to visit, even though she currently has a boyfriend.
Soon after Ashley and I ended I contacted Jessica. Jessica cried saying how much she missed me, telling me not to leave her again. The same night I contacted Jessica, I took her virginity. After that we got into and LTR.
Jessica
Jessica and I have known each other since I was a HS junior. During that time we were FWB. Started dating this year in January. Things were great at first. Until she (AWALT) started asking to hang out with male friends from middle school. One of which called her phone right after I fucked her. I answered it and told him to fuck off. Anyway eventually I lost frame one night. Jessica broke up with me. Had oneitis for Jessica, got depressed. Fucked several escorts and plated other women. I even fucked around with one of her friends. After two weeks of NC Jessica wanted to get back together. During this time she was in New York. Being naive, I took her back thinking things would be different. I waited for her to return. The day before she came back she broke up with me again. I was furious. She took me back only to break up with me.
I fucked more women and focused on myself the next two months. Two months of NC and Jessica wanted me back. I took her back (against my better judgement).
Keep in mind after the breakup with Jessica I lost frame and her mother saw this and thought I was crazy. Jessica's mother never knew her daughter and I were dating. She always assumed we were friends even though I was around often. After the badly ended breakup Jessica's mom didn't like me. So not only was I back together with an ex, but now I had to sneak around to see her because of her mother. During this time I was 19. Jessica was 18. Jessica found out I was with her friend and told me if I wanted to get back I had to stop talking to her, I did.
Shit got bad and I threatened to breakup with Jessica if she didn't give me enough attention. She's a busy nursing student finishing up her senior year in HS. Anyway a few days ago Jessica broke up with me. At first I wasn't mad or upset. She said her reason was because she didn't want to put anymore effort into it. She continuosly said she loved me during the breakup. Trying to keep me as an orbiter. It worked. It set me off. I called her up and cursed her out saying
"You love me but you don't want to work shit out. Why do you keep doing this to me I keep doing this to myself?!"
Anyway it's been 3 weeks of NC and I've had some time to recap each encounter with these women girls.
I'm currently focusing on my studies and fucking around with some plates. I will not longer get into and LTR and I'm no longer considering marriage.
Lesson's Learned:
- AWALT. AWALT. AWALT. Each one broke up so they could go branch swing.
- Despite everyone telling me not to take these girls back, I still did. Even my mother who is the most RP woman I know told me to only fuck women and never commit. She told me not to take them back. But I was a teen who thought he knew everything. NEVER GET BACK WITH AN EX. IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS YOU THOUGHT IT WAS. AFTER A BREAKUP THERE IS NO HOPE FOR THE RELATIONSHIP.
- I ignored all the red flags. Each one of these girls had daddy issues/absent father. Each one was toxic for me and I was always showering them with gifts and affection. Jessica fucked with me even though she had a boyfriend. Recognize the red flags and don't ignore them.
- Don't put her on a pedestal. I worshipped each one of these women and had major oneitis for them. There are 3.5billion people on the planet. Don't waste your time with one broad.
- Never again will I fully commit to a woman. Or abandon any plates because a woman tells you too. Ex. You don't like me talking to person? That's too bad the door is right there.
Don't enter an LTR and forget your RP programming. I first came off as alpha to each of these women. Soon after entering the LTR, I got oneitis and became blue pill.
Don't be beta bucks. Ex. the $300 plane ticket i bought Ashley, I also bought Jessica a $300 laptop (took it back of course).
- When it's over, it's over the relationship ran its course and each time I tried to fix things I made things worse. 3.5bil fish in the sea. Stop being sad and depressed. Focus on yourself. Be the shepherd and your sheep with gather.
- Don't ignore your hobbies/interests for a woman. Stopped going to the gym for a week when I was with Ashley simply because she was down here and wanted to spend time with me. That week was shit.
Long distance relationships never work. Why waste time dating someone 500-1000 miles away. You basically are dating a ghost. An imaginary friend.
All of these girls were young, immature, and in their prime wanting to ride the CC, and experience what the world had to offer.
- Don't say "I love you." I told each one I did of course they said it back but never meant it. Men are the true romantics. Women are just pretenders.
- Don't make a woman your number one priority.
- Lift. Increase SMV. Keep your plates. Abundance mentality. AWALT. Hypergamy doesn't care.
- Focus on yourself. Go out, party, live your life while you're. Just remember to save money and study hard and women will come.
- Don't make plans for the future with a woman. The future is uncertain. With each one of these girls I had plans to move in with them, marry them, and have children.
- Don't focus or stress over things you can't control. Women are creatures of emotion. Men are creatures of logic. You can't win with an emotional being. You can't force someone to be with you, or even like you. Ignore things you can't control and move on.
- Don't ignore solid advice. I ignored my mother and friends and suffered because of it.
- Anything that happens to you is 100% your fault. I let all of this happen to me because I was too dense to see the signs and listen to the advice I was given. I am the cause of my problems. I am the Captain of my life and my boat has sunk. Not because these women made it sink, but because I allowed them to make it sink.
- Things get better. For now it hurts but let the hurt be your fuel to your fire. Don't let the fire consume you. Use it to better yourself. Use the time and energy to become a better you.
- Always remember what you learned while swallowing TRP
There are many other lessons I learned but the above listed are the main ones.
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