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[–]Jarin017 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Look the main thing you have to realize is that "not all women are like that," but all women have the option to be "like that," at anytime.
What that means is that most women at any given time are not gold digging whores who are looking to cheat on you, divorce rape you, and pull your wallet out through your ass. But because of the way that the laws are in this country, particularly the divorce laws, she can do any of those things at any time with zero consequences. In fact she gets rewarded for that kind of behavior.
Yes all women shit test. Yes all women are hypergamous. But they have always been. The only reason that it is such an issue now is because women are financially incentivized by law to act poorly. The reason you go your own way, the reason you do not marry or co-habitat is to protect yourself legally and financially from "The State," not from women.
And just because you are MGTOW does not mean you never date or have anything to do with women. Some MGTOW do, they call themselves monks, and that is because they have had enough experience with women to decide that the juice isn't worth the squeeze. But you can't say the juice isn't worth the squeeze if you have never had the juice.
You can date, you can even have a long term committed relationship with a woman but you should never marry or move in with one because of the legal and financial implications.
As far as how to not act like a beta around women and how to pick them up that is really more of a pickup question then a red pill question.
The main thing to keep in mind if you are going to pursue women is that women only want to be with a man that is higher value than she is. If you act beta around her and defer to her in order to try to get her to like you then she will instinctively feel that you are beneath her and be turned off by you. The guys that act like they don't give a fuck about girls and treat them indifferently get all the girls because by being indifferent they are displaying that they have higher value than she does.
Also another thing to keep in mind is that you are 17. At 17 a man's value on the sexual market place is as low as it is ever going to get. While a 17 year old girl is a fucking rock star. Her value on the sexual market place is never going to be higher. At your age you are better off focusing on leveling yourself up. Hit the gym, get educated, get a career. By the time you are in your 30's you will be the one all the girls want to be with and she will be buying her fist cat.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was in denial for 2 years. Only way I snapped out of it was when I experienced the same thing between 2 different women, then had a Tinder hookup to feel better and didn't. I finally digested it when I experienced it first hand. Now I can see through women more clearly than ever. But you have to let go of the hate (it is a common gut reaction) at some point, or you'll just be bitter forever.
[–]desertedpotato712 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes I think the hate is the most important part. Don't be bitter, accept it like it is and live your life on your own terms.
[–]RunawayGrain1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How do I fully digest the redpill seeing real world examples of betas with girls in my school makes me dis believe it.
Because you're just seeing them together, but your brain is filling in blanks biased towards what you want to see. For all you know the dude is miserable, not getting any, or being cheated on.
I also think that if I take a girls virginity she will always love me and I can’t let go of the denial.
Yeah, I took my crazy ex's V card. She basically tossed me without a second thought, then spread word that she was sexually assaulted to cover up her actions for the new guy. Later on when that was disintegrating she went stalker, and finally wound up getting locked up. At the time, though, all I could see was the hot, though.
I still have hope how do I kill the beta in me that wants to act beta to a girl and be obsessed with her and open up to her
The real shock will be that cute girl that you like talking to, just ten years down the road. When you see her and she's ballooned up to 300+ pounds. Then you try to talk to her for a few minutes and you realize that a lot of that was just your dick hypnotizing you into doing something stupid.
[–]Annual-Wonder1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just live long enough
[–]desertedpotato710 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What it took me to fully digest the red pill, was a complete breakdown / depression to realize its all true. I don't know how you can digest it. But start with having an abundance mindset about women (and tbh everything in life) and you will have more success. I was blue pilled until june, when the last 'unicorn' I knew betrayed me with alpha chad. If you have instagram: delete this shit! Trust me, since I have deleted instagram it's so much easier. Also, find a side hobby besides going to school to keep yourself fit (I would recommend calisthenics - its hella fun) and / or creative. I hope this makes sense in some way lmao, have a nice one
[–]gantz_au0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Spend some time reading over the female dating strategy subreddit.
That should do it.
[–]northstar31453-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If there is a unicorn, what makes you think they will want to be with you?
Go out to any high end bar and club. Or make a tinder profile with a fake attractive guy picture. You'll see thousands of attractive girls who will be loyal to the RIGHT guy. Aka not you.
Unless you're a billionaire of course.
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