What are your thoughts on this?

VestigialHead · 2020-11-18T07:42:53+00:00

Imagine thinking you are so self important that you could believe this tripe and actually think the father has no say in the future of his child. Just straight up arrogance.

A child is a big responsibility. So a man should have the option to have his say. If he wants to abort and the women does not then a document should be signed saying he did not want the child and then he should not have to pay for the child at all.

If he does want the child and she does not then it should be able to be taken to court. Claiming that only a women has rights when it comes to a pregnancy is idiotic and sexist.

These feminists expect total authority over this yet expect the man to pay for it. Just total bullshit.

japanese-bo1 · 2020-11-18T07:47:50+00:00

men dont have the chance to 100% leave the life of a child they dont want
the chance of dying from childbirth is so low it almost might as well be 0
they dont mean men should regulate womens bodies, they just want their own parental rights so they do have a choice whether or not they want to raise or help raise the child

evenmoremeancomments · 2020-11-18T08:59:23+00:00

It's deplorable that a father cannot be one because of the screeching feminists going "NOOO LET ME MURDER THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS". Unfortunately, there's no other way for a man to be a father (of his own child) without going through a woman. BUT! There's also no way for a man to back out from being a father if he doesn't want to, so he has no choice in both ways. I feel that if there was a way for the father to back out of alimony and such if he doesn't want to be a father, then it would even out the field, because right now it's completely slanted towards women

Eruasa · 2020-11-18T09:22:28+00:00

If a man impregnates a woman, he has the right to decide with the woman together about the future of their child. Only if the man says he doesn't want to make these decisions, the woman can decide about that.

Castel28 · 2020-11-18T13:01:23+00:00

you can keep the baby if i can keep my money

MyUserNameIsSkave · 2020-11-18T14:30:09+00:00

Ok, but in this case men should not have to be present or give money for the child.

mrkeifer86 · 2020-11-18T14:38:30+00:00

That's cool. What isn't cool is men wether they want to be there or it still have to pay.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Watch how fast they would change their mind on this subject if laws allowed men go be physically and financially free from said child.

And it probably isn't even his. Parental fraud is a big issue in the united states.

Gentle_Catsine · 2020-11-18T11:55:24+00:00

Unless the Woman has been raped, the man should have some say on an abortion.

notwantingbiokids · 2020-11-18T15:44:28+00:00

Well it depends on the situation like will it kill the mom , are yall financially stable , was this child made to fix a marriage ? Like ive had an abortion that fucked up my left ovary which is the case if theres alot of scar tissue . Like yes tell the dad and if he doesn't want to be in the picture by all means abort . But as for the men as well if she doesn't want to be a mom you cant make her stay if she has the baby .

LongTimeOn · 2020-11-18T08:58:48+00:00

I don't need to be a minority to know racism is wrong. I don't need to be dead to know murder is wrong...I also don't need to be a woman to know that killing a baby in the 9th month of pregnancy is wrong (unless the life of the mother is at risk.....there will always be corner cases).

Abortion AFTER a certain gestation date is morally wrong, I think everyone agree's with that. This is why we have laws to govern this sort of activity, and it's not wrong that men have a say in it as men pay for the consequences of unwanted children via our taxes in the form of social care handouts.

WaltPrincessForTrump · 2020-11-18T14:46:12+00:00

It takes TWO to make a baby! TWO! And the father SHOULD have equal rights to the child he half made! Aside from that, abortion is, by definition, MURDER!

I feel so sad for all the men who have had to grieve over the loss of their baby just because the woman selfishly killed his child.

MyUserNameIsSkave · 2020-11-18T14:31:50+00:00

"i don't want to debate" ok so shut up... Ho wait, you are in your echo Chamber...

darwinevo · 2020-11-18T16:43:49+00:00

Go ahead, take the abortion rightfully, but I dont have to stick around if i dont want the child

idk_insert_something · 2020-11-18T11:39:33+00:00

i didnt know twoXchromosomes was a feminist sub, i thought it was supposed to mean twice the amount of chromosomes

functionalsociopathy · 2020-11-18T14:28:55+00:00

Honestly, at this point I'm just waiting on artificial wombs to make people like that obsolete. They're never going to grow as a person or learn from their actions.

Pingayaso · 2020-11-18T15:25:36+00:00

But if they want the baby and the man doesn't, he also don't have a say plus he has to pay support or go to jail. Men are second class citizens thanks to feminism.

d_nijmegen · 2020-11-18T09:14:11+00:00

We need a mechanical contraceptive that leaves men the choice to be sterile until we make the choice to be fathers. Then all we need is automatic protection against paternity fraud via a test done at the hospital. And no parental obligation until proven the father.

Only then will we end this shit. No incentive or means to trap us.

There are good things being developed. It's going to need soms serious funding....

Arrowtipios · 2020-11-18T15:48:44+00:00

None of the two genders should have a say in the matter. The child in her damn vagina has done nothing wrong to deserve this. Both the man and the woman are equally responsible for this, but that should not give them the right to take its life. Because something is legal, it does not mean its right. Abortion means taking a life,taking a life is murder. That's what abortion is. A legal murder.

Kin808 · 2020-11-18T12:56:05+00:00

Abortion should be illegal unless the mother health is in danger and deadbeats should have to pay child support. Sounds like an easy solution. I don’t believe fathers who are in their back kids lives should be forced to pay child support, it’s redundant.

OutsideBullfrog · 2020-11-20T00:10:53+00:00

I think that if a woman is the only one who has a choice to abort the baby. The man is the only one with a choice to pay child support with no punishment.

Sadlifeofsmalldick · 2020-11-26T01:30:54+00:00

That's my sperm in there I own it

2020-11-18T13:48:08+00:00

It’s his child as much as hers. The chances of dying of that in the west is basically 0. And actions have consequences.

Every single time you have sex there a potential of a kid. It’s like modern people want to eat there cake and have it to.

CelticHound27 · 2020-11-18T12:52:49+00:00

Cause it takes two to make a baby it’s a combination of both parents. Let’s get it straight I’m ok if an abortion is done early and under reasonable circumstances not just cause you fuck raw cause you to stupid to use protection. Not every dad is dead beat and I know this from having two wonderful parents who are separated. Child birth is safe in developed countries. It’s not just the mother’s responsibility it’s both parents.

MyUserNameIsSkave · 2020-11-18T14:32:41+00:00

Does she live in africa to speak of % of death by giving birth ?

Annual-Wonder · 2020-11-18T21:49:04+00:00

As long as I don't pay,

I don't need a say,

this compromise is okay.

This is the way.

JemimahWaffles · 2020-11-19T00:33:38+00:00

commenting on that exact post got me banned from that subreddit

cunts like this are why MGTOW is exploding, vast majority of men are now even if they don't know the acronym

knowing an attitude like this comes with immense power to ruin my life...who the fuck would bother?

MoonWolf2169 · 2020-11-18T13:57:52+00:00

That's like saying animal rights shouldn't be a thing because humans are different from other animals. You don't need to be in a situation to have an opinion on in. It's also like saying veterinarians should exist because "hOw dOeS a HUmAN kNOw wHAt iTs LiKE tO bE an aNImAl??" - see? Doesnt that round retarded? We have education and communication for a reason. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Not all opinions r right and not all opinions are equal, but everyone is still entitled to their own opinion. Now when it comes to literally killing preborn babies, I think everyone definitely is entitled to their own say.

Tetlow-Senpai · 2020-11-18T12:57:26+00:00

Personally, I think you should discuss things like this if you’re in a relationship. I have with my bf and we’re both fine with deleting the fetus. If you don’t like how you both stand on the situation you can talk more about it to see if anything can be done, or you can just not be together🤷‍♀️

I know people don’t think to talk about it but things like this need to stop being a taboo subject if you’re together.

CoolGuySauron · 2020-11-18T14:22:04+00:00

As long as men have an ounce of responsibility to that kid, they have a say to that kid.

Amon-San · 2020-11-18T18:37:50+00:00

I think that it depends on the case. Like, if the mother and father are together throughout the whole pregnancy, I think they should debate whether they are ready for the child.

But if it was in a one-night stand scenario, I don't really think it matters too much if she aborts it because the father is not present. However, he should be notified if she wants keep it, for child support reasons.

NijimaZero · 2020-11-18T17:01:46+00:00

I think that nobody should have the right to prevent a woman from having an abortion. Pregnancy and delivery are pretty serious and nobody should be forced to live it. If a man wants to be a father he should find a woman willing to be a mother, or adopt a child.

But if a man don't want to be a father then he sould not be forced to be one. If the woman he impregnated don't want to abort, he should be able to officialy declare that he is not the father and therefore has no responsability of any kind relative to the child.

Title	What are your thoughts on this?
Author	Wild_Aioli
Upvotes	129
Comments	72
Date	November 18, 2020 7:25 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
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