MGTOW Technique

arooster2022 · 2020-12-03T17:02:41+00:00

Right now I'm a MGTOW monk but if I pursued one night stands do you think cougars are any easier than 20 something year olds? Because I don't think...

[–]dillnilla2 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]redback-spider1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think the word cougar implies over 40 so usually past their fertility phase, because that is very important, then before that they might try to be very desperate and trick you or blackmail you to make them fast pregnent and because their clock ticks very very loud be depending on their strat either mega critical (because they can't waste time with somebody that don't want kids) or super unsceptical when they have the plan to trick you.

After that this aspect is out of the way, so first the amount of woman that are pretty desigable with 40-60 for younger guys I mean a 20 year old fucks everything their sexual drive and nonstop hornieness is so high that they probably are not very selective, like "everthing that is not on a tree by 3 get's fucked".

But yes it can be tricky A it's quetionable if they are attractive and B you wolud think logically because of supply/demand they would lower their expectations, but that is usually not how women work, from partner to partner usually they expect more, like if you change a job you usually want to switch from one job to a better job, not to a worse job else you could have stayed with the old job, so they know more what they don't want, they lists of red flags got bigger.

Sure some are reflective at some point or somehow snap out of their power trip but it can be tricky, but I was never together with a cougar so that's more observation and logical analyses.

Now for a one-night-stand, the question is if they after one if so then maybe yes if that's just your wish and they want something more then they will have higher expectations usually.

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]redback-spider1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

till 45 maybe but 50 is a very extreme case.

Put aside the low change in getting a >45 year old pregnent aside a 35 year old has a 17% change of a failed pregnancy a 45 year old has a 75%.

And that is when they try to conceive and take some meds, probably. Even if a women try to get pregnent and time sex so that they get pregnent with 45 years old only 40% change to get 1 bady, maybe eats differently to have a change to get pregnent.

I don't know maybe it would happen more often if they wolud not take the pill and it would happen more regularry, but still 50 is a stretch there must basically all work out perfectly 0 health issues super fitt, etc and a lot of luck (or bad luck depending on how you see it :d )

But thought it's worse after 40 so that it's neraly impossible interessing to know that it's still so much possible, thought it was a clearer harder cut at 40.

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It's not like I fuck a lot >40 women in the first place not even much <40, but yes maybe that might change in 10-20 years who knows, so I keep that in mind.

If I had a bit more money I would probably use the legal status of prostitutes and there I would use condoms and never heard of a case that a prostitute tried of succeeded in asking for child support from one of their customers, I could be wrong. I would try to not give that person my name in the first place. It's very unlikely:

they have often several guests per week or even per day so finding the right person even if they had all names wolud be hard
they use condom and most of the time the pill on top of that
abortion is legal and cheap here and we have here in germany no big pro-live movement.
I would not give the person my real name and address.

didn't use that service yet A korona B pretty expensive :D but yes if my finances would be better I would probably use that service depending on how much I like it a lot.

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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define "here" you talk about america, here women are not that desperate often it's more the state to force them to name the father.

We have a different social state from your view it would probably be horrific. So the women don't have that much incentive to fuck up a guy especially if he is not very wealthy.

But in order to get social money if the father is known they have to sue the guy and stuff. I also find no evidence that this happens here often, sure I heard 1 story on the internet where some dating app gave information out to a women, but I think it was not even prostitution but could be wrong.

Also if you don't use condoms that's your decision, there you can get aids or other STDs so if she does it for you she does it for others...

But yes the live is not totally risk free going out of the house is a risk, it's about minimizing risks not removing all risks from your live even a vasectomie is not 100% secure. Also I am very private a reverse search probably doesn't find you much on google of me.

Also the "rarely use condoms" is probably because of the legal status in the US, here it's legal that means it's well regulated and controlled. they have to go to doctors in a intervall and stuff like that, so while it surely happens and it's more regulated. Like with weed it's the opposite it's legal in most places in the US and very well regulated and controlled no poison mixed in etc, but here it's legal and therefor much more shit in it.

Like in the US with porn that is also legal and very well managed, with very little STD problems at least not deadly ones...

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]redback-spider0 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A you start to get anoying you insult me if you disagree with me fine we don't have to agree on anything. I meant that here in germany the state forced them basically to sue their partner or whoever they have to do several things to get social money, but it's pointless to go into detail here.

A no porn stars don't get aids all the time... can you show me your source for that? Weed is legal in most states, not always for recreational use but even if it's only for medicine you can get easily a permit for that also it does not matter that much the point is where it's legal it's saver.

Why prostitution is illegal in the US, well because Feminists and radical christians are united in many ways many of them are turfs and hate trans people right and left, and the sex-negative feminists which are most, hate prostitution, too and then you have this radical christianity in the US which channeled throught the republicans hate it too.

I mean you make sex with 17 illegal and let people drink beer only with 21, so absurd laws... when here everybody drinks with 16 beer and whine and vodka with 18, without having lesser average IQ or other problems from alcohol.

Well I don't want to say that 99 vs 98 is a big difference in IQ, and say we are more intelligent because of 1 point, but we are at least not dumber ever 100% of all children drink with 16 beer and 18 everything often at home even earlier.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

So the US has objectively just some proven wrong laws. (so has germany with weed as example), but yes the differences in as example difformation laws here make huge differences we had maybe 1% of the #metoo of what you had, because here you can't just name random people without any proof.

That shows that women nature + laws create the toxic soup and if you change the laws it solves 99% of the problem. MGTOW people often underestimate the role of laws and culture. America trains everybody to be as egoistic as possible only ME ME ME, if you then give women a loaded gun, they will pull the trigger 99% of the time. But while nowhere the problem is not there, there are differences in how severe the problem is.

There is a reason MGTOW is a north american movement and only slowly people from other countries joined in.

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]redback-spider0 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think I said porn stars in the US so let's focus on that, I can't go through all 5mio countries on the world and find statistics for those. But if you say they get it often you should bring the study to proof that not reverse the burden of proof that you are wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_infections_in_the_pornography_industry

So you had 2009 22 cases of infected porn stars were reported with many thousends of actors and in 30 years, as far as I understand that text 2010 tehre was another case 2013 another 1-2 cases but that seems to be it.

It's hard to find numbers how many people worked in that industry But I think it's in California a low 6 digit number, but of course through the years the actors changed so we are easy at 1-x million people. 22 from 1-x million is not that much.

1.1mio people in the US are infected with HIV from 320mio people that is something around 0.3% of the population if you calculate 22 from 1mio you have 0.02% of the porn stars got infected. So they are much saver then the general population.

Why because normal people either never or seldom do aids tests but some of them fuck around a lot, while every porn star themsef get often tested and every person they have sex with professionally get also very often tested.

I only count 14 states that are not legal here: https://marijuana.procon.org/legal-recreational-marijuana-states-and-dc/ so that would mean that in 36 states it's legal. I count more than 30 where it's legal on that map, so should be right, right?

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Can't you accept that we have different oppinions and will never come together are you so bored to not stop this discussion? yes federally it's illegal but I said it's legal most states... that is true at the same time, when that was your argument what was your point asking me of proof that in most states it's legal, you could have said this and saved you from reading that answer and me wasting time googling.

The only way I can interpret this is that you are some sadist that enjoys wasting people you apperently for some reason hate that you don't even know even they share much of your oppinions (both mgtow) so much that you enjoy wasting 5 minutes of their life time... maybe you should search help if that is really what you thinking.

Either that or you changed your argument to win because you realised that you were wrong that most states have laws against weed, and because you can't admit that you were wrong (again ego) you changed the argument from "in most state" to "federally".

Both possible things are not very adult, btw how old are you, if you are not that old that would explain a strong ego and not much knowlege about legal laws, I expect you to be older because mgtows tend to be not 20 or 10 or 15 most of the time.

Btw I think the federal can only make banking regulations and stuff like that they can't enprison a person for smoking weed in a state where state laws says it's legal, so on business level it's maybe then still to some degree illegal (mostly about banking) but they for the consumers it's legal to consume.

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No, you have an opinion that differs from fact. Can you accept that and stop trying to present your feelings as facts? A state can make something legal, such as slavery, the feds make it illegal. Who do you think wins? Yes, I am a sadist. No, I couldnt care less about your time and research skills (which you dont appear to have). I'm not wrong. You're just butthurt that I'm not wrong. I proved to you regarding the law and yet you try and claim I dont know the law. Right... The fact is, yes, the feds can certainly imprison you for weed even in a state that has a different law. In a state where consent is 16, the feds say 18. Men have gone to prison for having sex with a 17 year old based on fed law, which trumps state law. Why don't you understand this? No, under federal law, it's illegal. Nice try with your guess work on your narrative.

[–]redback-spider1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What you describe is borderline retarded, so you can smoke with your state employed police oficer weed (outside of his work time) but when a fbi agent or whatever you call federal cops comes by he puts you in prison for 500 years?

Maybe you should then leave this borderline retarded country that is 2nd retarded directly after north korea... but... well I think I have enough either search psychological help or go on with whatever mental disorder you have... sadism for starters would be one you could mention as you admitted healthy people are not sadistic.

But yes you can put that negative energy and debatte technics to other people I have to block you, if you think that is a win for you be happy about it, be my guest if that helps you I don't need such toxic people not even that far removed and with only text messages in my live.

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]redback-spider1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Hmm not that it would matter because the cost for childcare are much much higher, but I would then request a refund for the act of prostitution because it implies that you got a service without strings attached... so if that service suddenly has strings attached, it's kind of a fraud.

Like if you buy a car and they tell you it's new and you find out it isn't. But I know that this is not reality basically women are whenever it helps them have the advantages to be threated like chidren and whenever it helps them get the power of adults, I mean they were cherry pickers in old ages now they just not pick real cherries but other cherries.

But yes I feel like women have here more some sort of pride to raise a child alone as prostitude and maybe I simp a bit to much for whores (I at least think they get a unfair wrap and are seldom feminists and like man and are more honest whores more straigt to the point upfront, not like the other whores that pretent to be not whores).(might be different in feminist america) They seem on average hate man less. I mean how can you make it your job to fuck a group of people you hate? I talk about not forced prostitution here, and also they often don't like police and other state officials to much, they also don't ask for social money else tehy would not do that job... so I don't want to put them to much on a pedestal, but I have more respect for them often than many other women. Heck some of them ever do sexual services for disabled people which I also think of very respectful, because many women have a helper instinkt, like they feel for children they often have similar motherly instinkts towards other weak people like old or sick people. I mean most mgtow agree that women are not inherently evil, just society including from female feminists pushed laws brings out and enables often the worst qualities of women.

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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I disagree they have fun with interactions, you can of course deconstruct all non-egoistic behaviour of all humans as egoistic, but that includes man, if you as example think that because they save their child with giving theirs because they feel good and the feel about it, is egoism.

But yes women enjoy beeing needed they not only enjoy caring for animals but also for children maternaty instincts and they enjoy in general caring for people.

That for partner selection have different more egoistic modes is true, and that society and laws enables the worst things in them is also true, but it's a difference for them to work to help some people or what they do in their private live.

Sexual attraction as example is not a concious decision, so if they loose it for a guy because of money reasons as example is true, but saying that all women are just evil through and through is not what I agree on, and is not what MGTOW is about.

They often care about their parents as example not give them into care, and often they get not much compensation for it. Now you could say they do it to be seen as angel or something and will they get some compensation sure... but they do work so why is it evil for them to get compensation.

Now are there individuals that somehow do that evil poisen the person they care for or make them do bad things sure, but the problem with marriage is that you never know what knid of women you have and they all have loaded guns, but that does not mean that every women uses the loaded gun against you, otherwise the divorse rates as example would be 100%.

Keep your redpill-rage a bit in check and no not all women are pure evil. Again I can only speak for germany, in america people might be worse because of cultural reasons and everybody cares only for itself because of capitalistic mentality and radical feminism. And yes here and there are surely many very evil people including women, but this generalisation is just stupid.

Why are most nurses female, because they earn there so much, or because they scientifically proven like more contact with other humans over worknig with machines, maybe helper instinkt is wrong maybe it's social contact needs, but whatever it is it makes them social helpers, and I don't care why humans do good or bad I only care if they do one or the other.

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Ok, your english is terrible and I have to try and figure out what you actually mean. Statistics on child murder by mothers disputes your "maternal instinct" claim. I never said all women are evil through and through. Don't put words in my mouth. They often ship the parents off into care. They often get a LOT of compensation. If you never know what kind of woman you have, why would you get married and risk everything you worked hard for? Ok, I have a bowl of 100 pieces of candy. 65 of them are poison. How many would you like? Would you even eat one? I have no redpill rage. Again, you're putting words in my mouth. Stop it. It's cheap and dishonest. You mean, your generalisations are stupid. Most nurses are female because it's high paying, high status and they have access to doctors that they desperately want to marry so they can stop working and be a rich doctors wife. They refuse to believe the truth, doctors RARELY marry a nurse. Pump and dump? Sure. Marry? That would be as embarrassing as marrying the maid.

[–]redback-spider0 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You operate with your american only view, nursing only pays good in the US because you have some privat overprised healthcare system that maybe is great for rich people but sucks for everybody else.

In other countries you are not rich by becoming a nurse in germany a doctor probably earns as much as a nurse in the US which varies probably a lot but it can overlap.

Funny that I write nearly exclusively in english everywhere many many comments but I heard maybe 1-2 times in my live that my "english is horrible". But maybe you are a english teacher who knows.

What are child murder statistics mean to proof that let's say 1% of women murder their children mean that 100% of women have no maternal instincts? Or what are you trying to proof or disproof with that reference? Yes also many man ship their parents into care more women don't ship them than man. Often even the wifes of the sons of parents care about their parents even it's not their parents, nearly no man ever does that. Now do they hope to get some payment to be able to eat and have a roof over their head and maybe sometimes also more than that, sure but can you blame them for that? 2/3 of the people that do care for their relatives are women here in germany and while they get some compensation it's not that much. And also is not used just as payment for them but also for all the stuff the person they care for needs, special beds and shit like that. I never advocated to marry, so why do you ask me that? So you say nurses all do that job for the low chance they get married with the one doctor between let's say 10-20 nurses in a hospital per doctor, most of them are married. Maybe that's the case in the US, but no it's not, will they marry the doctor if he is interested in many cases or see them as a good catch sure, but saynig they choose this profession at least for germany I feel confident that this is not the case. Here in germany 55 of newly certified doctors are female 2018 77% in the sector of child medicine, how is that not showing there maternial instincts.

But because of MGTOW I don't only ask what data can I find that supports a theory that I have, but also it gave me a understanding of evolutionary biology. Now women are hypergamic because it was a genetic success strategy that maximised the changes of the women that did that to forward their genes succesfully. Now how succesful would women that have no maternal instincts be in forwarding their genes? Do you think single dad raised their children back then, that this was a usual setup? And that they forced the women per knife to give them milk or something? So it's to banal to try to find even statistics because it's not only common sense but just logically true.

Whatever the topic we had were about whores and the risks with them and the risk to make 50 year old women pregnent... we digressed a lot. I don't see a big point in where this is going except you can sneak in some insults to make you feel better about yourself.

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Title	MGTOW Technique
Author	arooster2022
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Date	December 3, 2020 5:02 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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