Taking a ride with the train in a rainy day and this is what i've come up with.

I think there is one think we overlook as men. Women are the way they are. There is no doubt about their nature. But remember, women are weak. No matter how dissatisfied or picky they are you will never see a woman forcing a man doing anything. You will never see and never was an army of women conquering and enforcing their rules over any weakling males. They cannot do it. It is only rulers that go conquer and rule. And they are always males. And it doesn't matter whether they are simps or not.

So punishing women is nonsense. Being mean with them, or feeling good seeing them doing shit things, or feeling proud being better than them is nonsense.

Women are not the cause of why men suffer in the society. Its the people holding power who keep men under their foot and force them act how they want. Women are just a tool for them.

Today violence is forbidden. Not because it is evil, but because harming the workforce is bad for productivity. Rulers cannot rely on it on enforcing their rules. So they dropped violence and started using shaming and other ways to force people work for them.

Remember that any ruler, be it a boss, ceo or even daddy government, is interested in having profit. If it is getting no profit it will not listen to your requests.

Nowadays we are bombarded with expressions like "win win deals" bs when a ruler wants something from us, in order to make us accept whatever they want. In reality he is only offering something meaningless to him. And the poorer or desperate you are, that meaningless thing may look huge for you. And that is why you accept the deal. But the catch is that whatever you are offered you must be kept still needy, hungry. Or else next time you will not be motivated when you are asked to do something.

Keep this in mind when you think that women are the cause of your anger or the root of all evil. They are not. They are only the tool for the ruler. The ruler knows the nature of women and the nature of men and is exploiting it by empowering women in order to force people work for them more and more. Currently women benefit more from this context but either they are too blind to see it; or they see it, they like it and exploit a little bit too.

If mgtow focuses on women the way that they refuse dedicating their life to them, is not bad. Its like treating a symptom. But ignoring that in fact the problem is far behind them it is something i do not agree with. Taking away rights from women is not ok. Its both ethically stupid and no one has the power to do it. Those who had it are dead already.

What men can do instead is to give women all their missing responsibilities. In the name of equality, of course. But who has the ballz to do it? One step i suppose it has started to be done. Quit dating. But stopping at this step is like just beating the saddle so that the horse could get it. The saddle represents women and the horse is the ruler.

We like to brag about our male ancestors that were reel men. Enduring the force of nature and building civilizations. And because of that it is we that deserve this and that, not the women. Might be true, but sounds silly too. Ever wondered whether our male ancestors went there and did all that because they enjoyed it? I doubt that. I'd say it happened because they were told to. By who? No, not by women. By their male rulers. And so many died trying to accomplish the master's will thinking it is good and an honor to do it.

You know who i think of being the real men? The men living far back then, when there was no society, no tribe, no clan, no ruler. Just individuals doing 'pve' and partying with women and sharing their shelter with them and their children, and occasionally doing some 'pvp' over food or women.

Think you descend from those reel men? What would you do to find if that is true? You know that only doing for you the same things that once you might have done for women, will not make things right or solve anything as long as masters are still getting what they want. Would you drop your living standards offered by the masters who rule today's society and refuse to obey them? Would you fight back when the masters will try to use force in order to bring you back?

Cuz mgtow as today's definition means nothing. It's only damage to the mushrooms. Just wait for the rain and all the mushrooms are all back and ready to spread spores. Bring some rights bs and it becomes a movement. A movement towards what? To nothing maybe.

Other people compare mgtow with the herbivore men in japan. According to the mgtow definition yes, herbivores may be calssified as mgtows, but what do you know? incels also kinda fit into that definition. But wait, incels are considered to be totally different by mgtows bcuz of... reasons. And i wonder why would a mgtow be bothered if he is called as incel by women or simps. I would say that mgtow in this phase is not even close to incels or herbivores. It is not even a movement or cult. While incels and herbivores are actually phenomena in west and east. I consider them phenomena because they happen. They have a real cause but are not voluntary. And they are big.

Maybe in the future who knows, mgtow will grow into something big, that will change the society one day. But as long as there is a society, a culture and a civilization, rulers will appear and men will suffer the same or another way.

Anyway at best, mgtow, the way is heading at this moment, can just rebalance power in the society. Create other rulers instead of the existing. And then what? You think the new rulers will sit happily if wives stay at home and do housework? I don't think so. They will start abuse men again because men are biologically expendable and because of power. Because power corrupts and corruption empowers.
In the same time be aware that the power is yours (yes, i know, cpt. Planet). You chose what to purge and what to spare. And you can do it your way or another.

Just stay strong! Everything will be fine in the end. Whatever the end will be.