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Red pills... Everywhere

remmuh1985

February 6, 2020

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Title	Red pills... Everywhere
Author	remmuh1985
Upvotes	1
Comments	18
Date	February 6, 2020 4:17 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW2
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/ezulij/red_pills_everywhere/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW2/red-pills-everywhere.810466 https://theredarchive.com/post/810466

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[–]ajthoma510 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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[–]rockstarsheep3 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

There's nothing wrong with a newborn. They come with their potentials and limitations; as we all do. There is only insult if you find it, where you look for it. As you want to see it.

You're not going you're one way, if you're stuck in the past. I don't mean you here.

The sidebar literally says this;

No Women-hating, hate, and negativity in general: Keep the misogyny to a minimum.

There's that, which sets the tone, leading us on to the following:

This is a place for focusing on positivity of mgtow for men, not for focusing on women or their bad behavior.

This firmly places the position of this sub, in the form of a golden rule. And finally, there is this:

If you feel the need to bring up "the nature of women", it needs to be in a dispassionate, objective context that is directly relevant to YOUR mgtow journey.

So, you can understand that /u/Communismsmellsbad makes a very fair and valid point. We have decided to abide by these principles and rules, so we should, when they are breached, rebuke those posts which are breaking the rules. It's as simple as that.

[–]Third_MAW2 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]rockstarsheep3 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Just wish men in the first stage of going mgtow or those who wish to share negative experiences with women still had a place to do that

That's actually a brilliant idea! I couldn't agree with you more.

There should be a place to do that.

Because the alternative is, bottling things up, which creates a bigger problem down the road. Or alternatively, getting drunk on hate and anger. Both approaches and their outcomes are counter-productive.

Self-sufficiency is what everyone is aiming at, and the mantra seems to be "description, over prescription," which in itself is fair. The problem truly comes in, is that to mind, there isn't a set of approaches that someone can take. I'm not saying that it has to be a 12 Step process, or anything like that. I do think that it is possible to develop some sort of structure or technique to find mechanisms to cope and finally overcome.

And you know, if we consider the Matrix as such, Neo had Morpheus to guide him through. To give enough instruction and teaching, so that Neo had enough knowledge to encounter the Matrix head on. He wasn't unplugged and then given a slap on the back and told to get on with it. He'd have been dead in a matter of seconds.

I would like to see somewhere that guys can vent; get the anger out. And it comes in waves, until it has no more power. And that is when the power of self-control comes in to play. It really is a sort of muscle that can be trained.

What do you think?

[–]Third_MAW3 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]rockstarsheep2 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Then, perhaps we should start working on that. I am going to politely disagree with you. :-) And I shall tell you why.

I think that a sub, dedicated to those who are dipping a toe, or are engaged in the first phases, can post as they please. Some conditions would need to be applied though. Now, I am not sure what those could or would be. Without some kind of rules, there's just chaos. These rules must be made in such a way, to provide opportunities. Not condemnation, as you so rightly point out. To be savaged by one group, and then the same done again is both cruel and unproductive.

Unfortunately, modern society, at least in the West, does not support this idea. In the East though, and shall we say Thailand, many young men spend a year in a temple as novice Buddhist priests. It's not frowned upon at all. So, perhaps a version of that can be created.

This however, will require participation from a broad cross-section of men. Some will be better equipped to help others cope with different sorts of problems. Living within society as it is, is difficult enough already, without going your own way.

So, perhaps, we just start with talking to one person at a time. And instead of judging them, we listen to them. They however, have to also take the time to listen back. There needs to be a reciprocal willingness, or else, once again we will be in chaos.

I will say this; even those who appear to have come through their rage phase, or whatever other phase, will encounter it again. In time, the effects will diminish, but sometimes flare up. So, we need patience and compassion.

How is your journey going, by the way? You good?

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