So, I need an answer.

I don't get what guys here are bitching about. I was a skinny, nerdy-, coke bottle glasses, comic book reading kid from a little guy (9-12 years old). I quit playing baseball, and went through a real big artistic phase. I wanted girls to like me, and I was a loser in 7th grade. So, I just quit doing that, went the 'bad boy route' for a bit (wasn't truly me) but I earned respect, then in high school went "full jock" since they got the girls.

I'll never forget my fat friend Jason talking to me (He was a fat, pretty boy, but was rotund, so he wasn't getting top tier girls), "Polojames, don't you want the girls? You play football, you get the girls" and I still didn't want to play, but they were a year older than me, came by in their truck and 'dragged' me into summer practice, as soon as I started, I wasn't going to quit. I didn't know sh*t, the same kids that hated me for the first 3 years of Jr. High(This was sophomore year) or saw me as a degenerate, after a good month, getting through hell week, got respect for me. I learned to play, got better, learned to talk, whiten my teeth, workout like a made man etc... And we were always talking to girls, all the time. Cheerleaders, sports girls, preppies, etc... I was a handsome kid, but weight lifting took me way up. Was getting girls, lost my V-card at 17. Etc..

Here's my point, why is everyone 'bitching' about girls that are 'hot' wanted the 'hottest guy', I mean, isn't that point of biology? I mean, that's how it works for all other animals, and we're animals, right? Also, I feel like most of the people I see in MGTOW, are kinda like, fat, loser, dumpy dudes, that bought into the lies of their mothers that "Don't worry, since you didn't have the balls to wrestle, or play football, or learn manliness, you'll get a hot girl, or a great job, and that 'jock' stud guy, he'll be "Bagging your groceries" one day"... and a lot of you guys believed it. I had a former friend like that, he was shocked that I went to a better college than him, since "Well, back in Jr. high, I hung out with these guys, and I started drinking at age 15" to which I replied, "Tom, you actually believed that bullshit? That I'd be broke and poor since I 'gasp' partied in high school?" to which he was shocked, and got quiet. He did! He lowkey was mad, that I made it into a top school etc..(I cut his bitch ass out of my life).

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Point being, that's mentality I see here. It's kinda pathetic in my view. Also, this whole 'anti-women' thing, most of you guys couldn't even get a whiff of the hotter girls, cheerleader, superheroine, body built, prom queen, star soccer player, preppy girls. Or just 'hot girls'in general. So if you couldn't get them in high school, why would you get them in college, or in real life? I mean, how does that work? We've known since kids if you're fat, or ugly, or lame, you need to make a lot of 'money' to offset that. That's been trope in t.v. for like 50 years. Plus in real life, hence them selling us "Bill Gates" and how smart he was, as kids, since he could get any woman he wanted due to his wealth.

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Also, some guys have wife'd up girls 'out of their league' that in my view were 'wounded calfs' since they already had a kid with someone else, and a lot of those idiots were with her, since she was the 'former cheerleader' type, but this idiot, not only took care of her kids, but knocked her up. Now they're bitching about her cheating, or being a C*nt, but she was always "OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE, FAT BOY" so, why are you shocked that she used you? or goes back to f*cking Chad or Tyrone, who she really wants? I mean, it's like common sense stuff.

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I just would love to know if any of you see what I'm talking about, from a common-sense perspective. I'm not anti-MGTOW(I think it has it's merits) but the guys I see pushing are either losers that didn't do shit(sports) in their lives, or idiots that wife'd up the girls "out of their league" after she already had 2 bastard kids, then gave her 3 more, now they're bitching that 'it didn't work out, and child support"(though I feel child support laws are bullshit, word of advice, get married in Texas, if you go that route, they don't care about that liberal, BS) such as Angryman(youtuber) etc...