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Up to 64 000 women in the uk are child sex offenders

matheuswolters

May 15, 2021
63 upvotes
/r/MensRights

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/oct/04/uk-female-child-sex-offenders

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Title Up to 64 000 women in the uk are child sex offenders
Author

matheuswolters

Upvotes 63
Comments 22
Date May 15, 2021 9:04 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ncuky9/up_to_64_000_women_in_the_uk_are_child_sex/
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Comments

[–]derryroadfenian 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It would be interesting to know how many are worldwide

[–]Mollof2 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Far too many

[–]derryroadfenian 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does that number include women had sex with under age boys, like my former next door neighbour who had sex with my 15 year old cousin,probably not

[–]Papercardboardmud 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand how this is linked to men's rights, can you clarify?

[–]SamaelET 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Most of these women sexually abused boys and men. They care also false less likely to be punished or get light sentences. Moreover, women not seen as dangerous is partially why men never get custody.

It is about raising awareness about how many female abusers are because most people don't believe they exist.

[–]Papercardboardmud -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hi, thanks for replying (although I know it wasn't directly to me!). This is interesting, but I'm wondering if you have any sources you could link, because I didn't see anything in the article about them mostly abusing boys (also if it was men that wouldn't be child sexual abuse, just regular) and I don't know how much the perception of men as dangerous actually does affect custody arguments? To be clear I'm not doubting, just looking to learn more!

[–]SamaelET 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Some studies

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/l41nni/study_evaluations_of_sexual_assault_perceptions/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/l42e8g/study_the_gender_gap_in_sex_offender_punishment/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/lbs33z/attitude_toward_male_victims_of_sexual_coercion/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Here are four posts of someone who read a lot of studies on sexual abuse. Men are mostly victimized by women while women are mostly victimized by men.

[–]Papercardboardmud 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you! Will be looking at all of this.

[–]SamaelET 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No problem.

[–]Rockbottom503 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can see the link - fighting the presumption that all men, and only men, are dangerous to children. Sometimes it's completely necessary to point this out; randomly posting an article out of that context though is not helpful in fairness.

[–]Papercardboardmud 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for your reply - I see what you mean now, but I think I would have to agree that randomly posting the article out of context isn't helpful. Maybe it is just me, but the link you've made here really didn't seem obvious at all.

[+]Marty-the-monkey -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

There’s a subsection within this subreddit of men whom think men’s rights is less about promoting the rights of men, and more about demoting what women are.

You can easily discern them by how they would much rather talk about how terrible women and feminist are, rather than talking about how we can make the world more inclusive towards men.

[–]IncontinentGorilla 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

When someone on TwoX or another feminist board posts something as on the nose as "I hate men," I wonder if you go and make a similarly critical comment about feminism.

I imagine you don't, but let's actually address your point. The idea that 64,000 women in the UK are child sex offenders is related to men's rights, in that women are more trusted with children than men by far. The idea that women too can be sex offenders and sexually abuse children is far too understated and not even close to being recognized as much as it should be.

[+]Marty-the-monkey -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I’m not on that subreddit, so no, I wouldn’t make that comment.

But if I saw something similar somewhere I would point out that kind of rhetoric is basically useless in any constructive manner, as it is here.

And your argument is still anti-women instead of pro men. You aren’t promoting anything for men, but wallow in a post where you get to criticize women instead.

And if that’s your bag, then all the power to you. Spend all your time criticizing women over finding solution to help men. But don’t be disillusioned enough to think of anti-women as the same as pro-man!

[–]SamaelET 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Sorry for being anti women by wanting female sexual abusers to go to jail. I presume that feminists are also anti male for wanting male rapists to go to prison ?

A way to make world more "inclusive to men" is by making sure female sexual abusers are thrown in jail and not let free to run rampant.

[–]Marty-the-monkey -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You’ve really hit the nail on the head there (though not intentionally). What you want to do here, by focusing on female sex offenders over male rights issues, is following the exact same logic as feminists.

Your argument doesn’t work, because I can remove the female qualifier, and it means the exact same thing:

A way to make world more "inclusive to men" is by making sure sexual abusers are thrown in jail and not let free to run rampant.

If your argument doesn’t change regardless of gender qualifier, then it isn’t a gender issue, it’s just an issue. It’s an issue that sex offenders exists. That doesn’t make it something neither men nor women can claim as their own (as you seemingly want to - in the same vain as feminist want to make all issues into women issues).

[–]SamaelET 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It is a gendered issue because female sexual abusers are let free or not punished as much as men, even more so when their victims are male.

The laws also exclude female on male rape in most countries.

Lot of people don't even believe female abusers exist nor that female on male sexual abuse exists or is serious.

The situation is not the same as male on female abuse which is recognized by laws, policies, people, etc. Male on male abuse is also another issue because of homophobia.

Feminists don't want to make every issues into women's issues. They were successful. We MRAs have a choice. Working in a gender neutral manners while ignoring that women got the feminists working only for them and that male disposability makes people prioritize women. Or accepting the rules of the game and only working for men and boys.

[–]Marty-the-monkey -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So you admit you want to make all issues into gendered issues.

Yay! Who want to solve anything when we instead can fight over who get to claim an issue to hold over others! That’s some solid pro-men stuff there...

[–]SamaelET 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fighting "gender neutrally" will mostly benefits women and girls. They will always get priority and special treatment. Men and boys will always get the leftovers.

[–]Marty-the-monkey -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now you are making assumptions.

It’s also not the central dilemma of seemingly want to make every issue into a measuring contest as to which gender gets to claim it as an argument against the other, which is an extremely juvenile approach to solving anything.

[–]IncontinentGorilla 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And your argument is still anti-women instead of pro men. You aren’t promoting anything for men, but wallow in a post where you get to criticize women instead.

Not really, no. Showing that there are many bad apples among women too does help to prop up men by showing that we and women are just the same, but women get automatic trust from the vast majority of people in society. There is also the fact that many of the children abused by women are boys, so this serves as a warning sign that female pedophiles exist in large number and we need to protect our sons from them, not falling into the trap of automatically trusting women.

[–]Marty-the-monkey 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is about as useful as thinking pointing out Marjory Taylor Green saying batshit insane things is somehow going to make the Republican Party different.

That’s in no way how promoting rights work.

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