Part I: Anthropological Analysis
Women are not sexually attracted to men. They are disgusted by the male form, disgusted by our veiny musculature, and disgusted by our body hair. A man can never be attractive like a woman can. As you can imagine, this makes life unfairly difficult for men and unjustly easy for women.
If you are a woman, you will simply never understand what it’s like to be a man. What it’s like to walk down the street in public. You will never understand how we are treated by society. Truly, you would not last a week as a male in 2021.
Good, hard-working, well-deserving men are rejected and left to rot in loneliness for no other reason than simply because they were born male. For as far back as humanity goes, good decent men have been tortured in this way. You have twice as many female ancestors as you do male ancestors. That’s right, women are twice as successful as producing offspring than men. You might be thinking “what? that can’t be right!”. Just take for example this: say there are two men and two women. Each women has kids with one of the men. We can see in this example 100% of the women pass on their genes, but only 50% of the men do.
Being born a man is like being born an anal beetle. Females are living life on easy mode, they will never have to struggle, and they will never have to fight. Females live a life of blissful ignorance, love, and acceptance. Even the most unintelligent, uninteresting, unsuccessful, unlucky, physically disabled female lives with a level of privilege far beyond 80% of men.
Part II: Sexual Anarcho Capitalism
Of course there are the “Chads”, the upper echelon of men that are hoarding all the sex, leaving almost nothing for the rest of us. Gee, sound familiar? It’s almost as if free markets lead to wealth inequality, and a free-anarchistic-overly-sexual dating marketplace leads to SEXUAL INEQUALITY.
Like how bootlicking capitalists will convince themselves that every poor person in America “just isn’t working hard enough”, so too will blue-pulled normies convince themselves that incels just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps! The world is completely fair bro, if you can’t find a date the only reason is because you need to take a shower and hold frame! Why do people think this? It’s because if you admit that the system is unfair, you must thereby admit that your success in the system is unjustified. Once you admit that the economic system is not a meritocracy, it is no longer possible to say “I earned it fair and square”. And by acknowledging that the dating marketplace is unjust, you relinquish some of your sexual power. Sure, you’ve fucked plenty of girls. But you didn’t earn it. You just got lucky. Your sexual conquests in life are not based on your own merit, but factors that were completely outside of your control. Think about that before you go online and give “advice” to struggling men. Remember that you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about when it comes to attracting women.
I’m trying to open your eyes. You are deluded. You are wrong. Please, have the strength to just admit you are wrong. It’s better to look like a fool once and admit you’re wrong than to stay wrong and look like a fool for the rest of your life. Men are not the problem. You are not the problem, kings. It’s everybody else that is the problem. Just because someone is poor, this does not mean they are lacking in some moral capacity. Just because someone is sex-poor, does not mean that they are of lesser moral value.
Part III: Collective Responsibility vs Individual Responsibility
Also, I’m not absolving myself of personal responsibility. Nice try, though. Just because you admit that racism exists doesn’t mean you’re going to give up on life until the whole world is no longer racist. I’m just saying that your life can be shit and it’s not even your fault. You wouldn’t tell someone living in North Korea “Hey man, quit complaining about the system you live in and only focus on yourself! Have you tried going to the gym?”
I know as a redditor this may seem SHOCKING to you, but we can work on self improvement AND point out problems in society, all at the same time! I know, crazy right? Isn’t that just the most insane thing you’ve ever heard?
Part IV: TL;DR
TL;DR Ideas from the sexual liberation movement have been taken to such an extreme that we are now living in a hyper-sexualized coomer wasteland. For women this has led them to having infinite access to sex and very little access to committed relationships. A incredibly small minority of men have access to more sex than any human needs in 1,000 lifetimes, while the vast majority of men are sex-poor and sex-starved. The data reflects this.
There is only one whole in my argument: I’m an incel so therefore everything I say is automatically wrong.
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Holy hell man I don't even know where to begin.
This couldn't be less true. Ask 100 women what they find attractive in a man, they will all be able to make you a list.
Even if you aren't attractive in the traditional sense, you can still do things to make you more attractive. Get a haircut. Hit the gym. Ditch the old greasy hoodie that screams "parents basement" for some clothes that work with your figure.
Again, pretty far from the truth. Good high value men are the men that the majority of women will want to be with, as things like a stable job and a good outlook scream stability. Stability is a real driving force when it comes to relationships for both men and women, and "Good, hard-working, well deserving men" are the ones you will usually find in healthy relationships.
Fuck no it isn't.
The more I read, the worse my picture of you gets. And I'm not trying to be mean, but your tone in this post is so hostile that I can't really picture you as anything but some bitter incel who hates women for not sleeping with him and hates better men for being more desirable hence making it harder for you to get your dick wet.
The fuck you mean? You haven't proposed any solution to your problems with women, you've only blamed women for not being easy and men for having more game than you.
There was a sexual liberation sure. But for the most part it was just society coming to be less judgemental about what grown adults do with each other behind closed doors. Committed relationships are still extremely common. And if you want to be in the "small minority of men" who have access to thousands of times more sex than any human needs, go out and make yourself more desirable to woman. You say "sex-starved" like sex if equivalent to food and water. Pull your head out of your ass. You can make yourself a better man if you so choose too, though I have little faith you will.
You're not wrong because you're an incel, you're an incel because you're wrong. People like you give the rest of us in this movement a bad name/image.
Edit: Spelling and grammar.
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Honestly yeah, a shower wouldn't hurt.
That's because any woman can raise their hand in a crowded bar, yell "who wants to go home with me" and probably 5 guys at least will raise their hands back at her, most likely more if she's attractive. Men typically have to work harder to get laid yea. So what? You see throughout the animal kingdom that the males are usually the colorful animals that have to do the mating dance to attract the female. I don't hear them bitching. It is what it is man, this whole sexual marketplace power imbalance isn't unique to humans. You're either gonna have to get over it and adapt to it or get used to living a sexless life.
I wasn't arguing, just pointing out that the points being made were from a place of bitterness and did not at all contribute to the men's rights movement. If you want to trivialize the movement and make it all about how some incels are sad they aren't getting action, then we will never in a million years be taken seriously by anyone.
Actually yes I'm curious about specific solutions other than the ones we agree on ie. better yourself and whatnot, because I'm unsure that there are actually any realistic solutions that don't involve changing society as we know it. It will always be easier to change what you don't like about yourself than to change society. So if you don't like the fact that you're not getting laid, can we at least agree that it would be easier to add to your sexual marketplace value than to change the entire sexual marketplace as a whole?
Not at all actually. I fail to see the parallel line drawn between our discussion and this example.
Site your sources my man, then we can get serious. What are these diseases? Is the correlation the causation when it comes to lack of sex? Abstinent people cant contract STDs so what else are they getting? Are these studies peer reviewed? What were the controlling factors and the lifestyle habits of the participants? I do believe that people could get depressed by lack of puss, god knows I would be, but a lot of other factors need to be taken into account as well. Also, where have you embarrassed me thus far?
A fact is defined as a thing that is known or proved to be true. Where have you proved any of the claims you have made?
I would be salty too if someone I believed to be a "brain-dead vegetable" was getting more pussy than me. ;)
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