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UK: False sex-pest claims led Rolling Stone Keith Richards' ex son-in-law to walk in front of a train, inquest hears

furchfur

January 28, 2021
91 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9195441/Keith-Richards-ex-son-law-took-life-social-media-abuse.html
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Title UK: False sex-pest claims led Rolling Stone Keith Richards' ex son-in-law to walk in front of a train, inquest hears
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furchfur

Upvotes 91
Comments 8
Date January 28, 2021 9:08 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/l6sdxh/uk_false_sexpest_claims_led_rolling_stone_keith/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/uk-false-sex-pest-claims-led-rolling-stone-keith.835234
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Comments

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My ex lied through her teeth to hurt me... Thankfully she was so crazy I was able to come out on top... But this kind of thing really scares me... If she just said her lies and left me alone otherwise... I could have been in real trouble.

[–]AreYou4RealM8 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Another life ruined by false allegations. While there was no evidence that these allegations were false, it still ruined this man's life. Women should only report crimes if they have enough evidence to prove them. That way lives like this one wouldn't be ruined.

[–]finnegan_furball 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think you miss the point. Women use this lie to absolutely destroy the lives of the men. If true then shame on the men but if false there is no repurcussions for the woman. As an example. My ex abducted our kids from Michigan USA to Ontario Canada claiming abuse. During divorce in USA she admitted no DV ever occured. Divorce is finalized and my ex asks me to move back to Ontario to co-parent. The minute I crossed the border child services apprehends my children from me by court order. They claim I am a dangerous father, that my US court orders are not valid in Canada and that I can never see my children again. This resulted in a 6 court in two country litigation nightmare. Ultimately, I won and have my joint custody back but not before spending my life savings. There was no repurcussions for my ex whatsoever. The US court says they can't control what happens in another country and Canada says they believe the accuser. But I will never get the 3.5 years I lost with my kids back and it has permanently damaged the relationship with my oldest. So when you look at the long term repurcussions for the man.... It has taken me 7 years to change the law in Ontario so now parents can access their files with child services and correct the errors. Otherwise the lies stay on your record permanently in Canada and you cannot pass a vulnerable sectors check or volunteer ever again. All because of a false allegations. The impact to our lives as men is immeasurable.

[–]AreYou4RealM8 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That sounds terrible. Though I don't know what you mean by saying I missed the point. Seems you agree with what i said. That false allegations are bad and women shouldn't make accusations unless they can prove it.

[–]finnegan_furball 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"While there was no evidence these allegations were false". You have the fundamental right to be innocent until proven guilty. However, in matters of allegations of DV the presumption is that you are guilty and have to prove innocence. And if it did not occur then how can you prove a negative? The reality should be...and your statement should have been..."No evidence as presented to a Court of Law resulted in a conviction or finding of DV against this individual". Otherwise you are perpetuating the issue and depriving the individual of their right to innocence until proven guilty.

[–]AreYou4RealM8 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see. But if there is no evidence to convict someone, does that automatically make it a false allegation? Shouldnt we need to prove an allegation is false before we accuse someone of a false allegation? Many cases of DV just remain unsolved. Doesnt mean the accused is innocent and it doesn't mean the accuser is guilty.

Thats why I added that caveat. Its a bit unfair to tag this as 'false allegations' when no one knows if they were or weren't false.

[–]finnegan_furball 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When you are innocent until proven guilty, it would be called an unproven or unsubstantiated allegation. There is no reason a man should be required to prove his innocence. The burden of proof is on the accuser to prove in a court of law. Otherwise there is bias against the man.

[–]BramblEdge 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Toxic femininity includes lying for sympathy or gain.

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