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Paris mayor mocks fine for hiring too many senior women

ThePoliticalHat

December 17, 2020
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/europe/women-paris-fine-intl-scli/index.html
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Title Paris mayor mocks fine for hiring too many senior women
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ThePoliticalHat

Upvotes 8
Comments 13
Date December 17, 2020 2:01 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[+]ObviousObservationz -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

This is why affirmative action is so important. Its necessary to make sure people are hiring genders evenly.

[–]yadoya 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely not. It's important people get hired for their competencies, not for what's between their legs.

[–]ObviousObservationz -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Does it say anywhere in the article that these women weren't hired for their competencies?

[–]mikesteane 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's clearly implied twice that women are being promoted because they are women:

"So yes, to promote and one day achieve parity, we must accelerate the tempo and ensure that in the appointments, there are more women than men," she said.

"I want the fine paid by Paris for 2018 to finance concrete actions to promote women in the civil service. I'm inviting you at the Ministry to speak about it!" she wrote.

[–]yadoya 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If they were, gender ratio would not be a topic. But in France, law forces us to hire more women even when it's impossible to find one competent enough for the job

[–]ThePoliticalHat[S] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Sauce for the gander, Mister Saavik."

[+]ObviousObservationz -6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The women here hired who they wanted. And you want the government to step in and fine them. Thats affirmative action.

[–]yadoya 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There should be zero laws forcing you to hire someone because of anything else than their competencies.

[–]Mariposa_Flor -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but then certain jobs would be even more divided by gender.

[–]yadoya 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How is that an issue as long as everyone is free to choose what they want? You'll always have more men wanting to be plumbers and more women wanting to be in childcare.

[–]Mariposa_Flor -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Things like the Harvard scandal come to mind. If Harvard accepted only based on academics, it would be disproportionately populated by white and asian males. That’s why they had affirmative action in place.

I think we should put more emphasis on reminding little girls they can be plumbers, refrigerator repairers, fire fighters, carpenters, etc. If you’re able bodied, you can use your hands no matter what you identify as.

[–]yadoya 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is the more you do that, the less they follow your advice

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/553592/

[–]floriandeckard 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

or women can be successful “only based on academics”? why they can’t surpass “white and asian males??”

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