Will men's rights ever change society and will feminism ever end?

ltsRym · 2020-12-11T16:20:42+00:00

Not really.

During our lifetime definitely nothing will change, in fact if you think it will get better, it won't. But it will get worse before it gets better.

On a grander scale in general society simply doesn't care about men. Sure a few enlightened individuals may still be around and actually practice "love thy neighbor" but those are rare and grow rarer still today.

It may take centuries to undo the damage due to the unwillingness of people to change, outright ignorance or denial of the issues.

Savings-Yak-1449 · 2020-12-11T16:11:28+00:00

Will certainly happen but it might take the next several decades to accomplish that. I don't see it happening anytime soon.

2020-12-11T16:14:17+00:00

The problem is it's not just women that are feminists. It's men too.

ObviousObservationz · 2020-12-11T18:32:15+00:00

No. Women won't stop until they are dominant. As of now they represent 25 percent of the house, 25 percent of the senate, and have almost even been president. 6 percent of fortune 500 companies CEOs are women and 20 percent of upper ranked police officers.

Until men start rising up, these numbers will only increase getting closer and closer to 50%.

pacsatonifil · 2020-12-11T18:16:38+00:00

Yes if we come out and talk. Just like every other movement did. First mocked and dismissed and slowly we build up change. It’s how it’s always been done and it will be done. Most of the men I know that believe in this aren’t even aware that are values are the same. They simply live a life with minimum interaction with the opposite sex and don’t date women. I myself live that life and I’m happy. I think we need women, but I understand the social risk and disadvantages men face.

Savings-Yak-1449 · 2020-12-11T23:32:13+00:00

Keep in mind that a major problem that nobody talks about is preponderance of simps, beta males that institutionalise, facilitate, tolerate and even reward the undesirable female behaviour.

AdikaHUN0328 · 2020-12-11T19:42:35+00:00

Not today bro, but one time, feminism was needed, and it took a lot of time, but maybe one time there will be no double standards, including race and gender, where boys will not be trash in first world countries and women will have rights in third world countries. Ofcourse violence will never stop, but maybe, one day, society will be better.

accidental_me · 2020-12-11T20:24:04+00:00

When it becomes apparent that feminism harms society and economy in particular then we will see changes. Feminism does that already but it's not apparent. That's why it's important to talk about the lies and immoralities.

mhandanna · 2020-12-11T21:27:13+00:00

I really disagree, and I say that as a person who is very well acquainted with what is happening with MRA on the ground.

Firstly MRA is not feminism and never has to be anything like it, no marches are needed etc.

Secondly people are misunderstanding what MRA even is. In the past few decades male life expectancy has shot up, men dying in RTAs has plumetted, men dying at work plummeting, men in accidents, going down.... every hour THOUSANDS of men and and women are concocting to the power grid, getting internet for first time ever..... these are all MRA.... any policy on improving peoples health and wellbeing is MRA.

The founding of Quilette is MRA, people who are advocating for free speech and dude process is MRA, James Linday, Helen Pluckrose and the Gang are MRA anyone who is anti post modernism is MRA.

Feminism isn't that. Feminism is an ideology/religion with theories and ideas that needs to get everyone on board... its not enough to be a woman advocate you have to be a feminist, MRA isn't that...... this is an MRA website, even though it isn't:

https://www.amhf.org.au/exactly_how_big_is_the_gender_health_gap

People are also having this despondent attitude as they dont know the history or feminism and MRA.... Patraichy theory was invented in 1964 and name in 1970, intersectional feminism is only from 1998.... it was the creation go gender studies departments that created all this bullshit for men as it seeped into law, journalism, social work etc (and half that shit is mens fault, men bankrolled all of this, and psycho feminism from the 60's is the fault of men who invented post modernism and also bank rolled the pshycho type of feminism,,, even divorce law etc is a lot of mens fault as allowing it so they can make money as lawyers etc)..... these things happened quickly, and can go 360 just as quick.... and it doesnt even have to be MRAs doing it, e.g. anti post modernists, pro science people have the same effect.

Also we know the history of patraichy theory etc is all bulshit and a misspelling of history. However, women did go from 0 in university to education now being gynocentric and so on.... women being questioned if they are capable of x y z as they have periods, emotional etc.... MRA is not starting from that position, yes there is gynocentism and male dispoatbilty but we're not starting from a very far point back are we? Certainly not compared to 0 women in uni or something.

Also MRA is egalitarian it is about men and womens rights, however we focus on mens issues now as that is where society is ignoring (e.g. 0.5% of DV funding is for men in UK or 92% of sex specific scholarships are female despite women being 2,500,000 more per year in US college etc) however any egalitarian movement fixes that as does general measures to better health and edification etc.

Very specific type MRA is needed in a few specific areas but even that can be done with lobbying and lawyers etc... e.g. look how successful Mark Perry he is and he is just one guy:

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/another-victory-from-my-efforts-to-advance-civil-rights-and-challenge-systemic-sexism-in-higher-education-2/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/h80isc/but_mras_just_complain_about_feminism_they_dont/

MRA is not feminism we dont need to burn bras or 1,000,,0000 people marches. The above with Mark Perry is a matter of time before MRA law groups form and sort this shit out.... I follow MRA on the ground... trust me its doing fucking brilliantly, its a matter of time before it kicks off which is why feminists are shitting it and trying to block it

g1455ofwater · 2020-12-11T19:16:19+00:00

It's hard to imagine it getting better in our lifetimes since society is now willing to reject reality if it goes against a preferred narrative. I think what will change society is kids being raised in this unbalanced society are not going to do well and eventually we'll lose the luxury of being able to ignore reality and people will have to work together more just to get by.

Invadercert · 2020-12-11T20:52:27+00:00

Woah imma play Devils advocate and say that In Order for MRA to enact change down the line we need to find common ground with feminism. And MRA needs to end this mentality that feminism is the enemy because ant the end of the day feminism and MRA are not all that different in their end goal. Now then let the down votes commence.

possumwithtaser · 2021-01-08T07:54:41+00:00

If it does, I may not live to see it, sadly.

nacho-chonky · 2020-12-12T04:16:44+00:00

It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better, it’s going to have to get to the point where men are fully being treated like 2nd class citizens, kinda like how Muslim societies treat their women, then men might actually fight back and defend our own rights

Title	Will men's rights ever change society and will feminism ever end?
Author	RarelyVague
Upvotes	17
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Date	December 11, 2020 2:07 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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