What do you think of the Ansel Elgort rape allegations?

CertainCrow1 · 2020-06-19T22:00:31+00:00

Will be interesting when more details emerge... Sounds like he was already asking her for nudes and saying he wanted a threesome but she still ended up getting together with him alone for some reason? Making a huge deal about being told beautiful at only 17. Last I checked most women are fully physically mature at that age but still maybe have some mental growing up and he was only 3 years older?

xAlphaKat · 2020-06-19T21:47:09+00:00

Hmmm... 🤔

perplexedm · 2020-06-20T07:49:59+00:00

Hollywood actors and businessmen had deep influence in popularizing feminism, women appeasement politics and associated decadence in society. May be they did it to cover their own vile acts against women. No sympathies whatsoever for them.

Let them come out in open and expose the double standards in society. Otherwise, let even if it is to the very last one collapse on each other.

Media, especially films this very day is against men and always thrived on white knight toxic masculine characters. Let them burn within and a new movement pop up.

anavim10 · 2020-06-20T10:14:09+00:00

What the fuck is wrong with y’all? Silence isn’t consent, crying isn’t consent. You’re not expected to “read girls’ minds”, you’re supposed to understand basic nonverbal messages. If a girl is sobbing in pain, keep it in your goddamn pants. Unbelievable.

Chief_Beef_BC · 2020-06-20T13:53:30+00:00

I think Ansel is a creep and what he did is just gross. That being said, I don’t understand why the accuser keeps stressing her age? Ansel was 21 while she was 17, and when I was 17 I might have thought that was cool, but now at nearly 21 its just disturbing. That being said, she is talking as though a man destroyed her and took advantage of her at 17, and she acts as though 17 is incredibly young. Too young for 21 year olds, yes. Everyone I know for the most part started having sex around 16-18. Not victim blaming, as she is for sure a victim, and Ansel took advantage, but why was she hitting up a 21 year old actor through DM’s anyway? What was she looking for?

partiufrances · 2020-06-20T16:34:43+00:00

A formal investigation must (!) happen. I've already seen statements that he sent unsolicited dick picks to a 14 year old, tried to have something sexual with a 15 year old and sent messages with sexual content to 13 year olds, as he was an adult (and these 13 year olds stories were brought to light back in 2016/2017! And no one gave a shit).

firxds · 2020-06-21T03:17:43+00:00

I think the victim is telling the truth. Why? Because stating false claims and ruining a reputation is called libel and defamation. This is punishable by jail time and fines, so the fact that she’s coming forward is her risking a lot if she’s lying. Also, after this she’s obviously going to be sewed and to fight this she needs proof which she probably has in order to fight her case. Not everything can be posted on social media.

poopmaloop · 2020-06-20T02:08:13+00:00

I'm always going to choose to believe that a woman or man is telling the truth because I know how hard it is to talk about, unless the rapist has a strong alibi or something. From what the girl said in her tweet, he sounded like a total creep lol. And from what I've been hearing from him as of late, he's been a little weird. At the end of the day, he knew what he was doing. He used his status to make sure she kept quiet, and that's already red flag #1. Regardless if she's 17 and "wanted it," she legally is not able to consent, unless she lives in a state where 17 is the age of consent and had sex within that state where she can give consent. He's technically the adult in the situation, even if he's only 3 years older. So if that's what took place, we have to call it like it is - rape. Plus, sometimes a person doesn't know how to say "no." That's why you have to look at the whole picture - verbal and nonverbal body language. Check in with them if you have to and ask if it's still ok. And a person can change their mind last minute whether or not the other person likes it or not. She says she mentally checked out, so I mean.. would you still have sex with someone who isn't even mentally there? I think you have to be a selfish lover to not see that there's something wrong.

With all that said, I do believe that people are innocent until proven guilty. I don't think we should be cancelling him based off of allegations. Rape is such a tough subject because if they don't have proof, it basically boils down to who has the better lawyer at this point now that it's been so long.

Title	What do you think of the Ansel Elgort rape allegations?
Author	Tangerine-Due
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Date	June 19, 2020 8:19 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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