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Im a woman and someone said problems are caused by the absence of masculinity So, I brought up how masculine standards that women usually use to promote feminism also majorly affects men negatively and I got told to get raped. Maybe I just worded it wrong..?

Lillazilla

April 19, 2020
10 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title Im a woman and someone said problems are caused by the absence of masculinity So, I brought up how masculine standards that women usually use to promote feminism also majorly affects men negatively and I got told to get raped. Maybe I just worded it wrong..?
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Lillazilla

Upvotes 10
Comments 17
Date April 19, 2020 6:19 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g4cidh/im_a_woman_and_someone_said_problems_are_caused/
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[–]goodmod[M] [score hidden] 6 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link

Your post, which is otherwise excellent, includes the twitter handles of the people involved.

Please remove or cover up this information, and then post again.

Your post was removed due to rule 6:

Personal information posted directly to Reddit about a person or user will be removed. Submissions about Facebook pages or Twitter must be screenshotted with names blanked out. Reddit has a zero-tolerance policy for doxxing. Any posts or comments that attempt to identify an anonymous person, or solicit such identification, will be removed. In addition, users may be banned.

[–]ashtraybreathe 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She probably a never been fucked for 1 and for 2 she’s 600 pounds with blue hair

[–]z770i1 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That person is an asshole and a sexist

[–]PlatinumBeetle 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sexist is an understatement. I'd call him an actual misogynist.

[–]z770i1 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's fair

[–]PlatinumBeetle 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Or maybe you met an asshole.

NGL my first thought was "and maybe he should be raped instead." But that's not right.

Natural masculinity is fine. There is nothing inherently wrong with men having statistical personality differences from women, and if these are due to biological factors then they likely serve some good purposes both in terms of relationships within families due to reproductive differences and in terms of a wider diversity of thought in societies as wholes.

Our culture's socially constructed masculinity however, has problems. In my opinion a lot of that is because what was once healthy in masculinity has been rendered unhealthy for men, and much that was affirming about it has been outright ungendered or even reframed as feminine because of the effects of feminism. But I suppose that's another conversation.

The feminist term "toxic masculinity" makes talking about how our culture's ideas of masculinity aren't all healthy quite difficult by associating those conversations with what has effectively become a slur.

So in a sense you did word it wrong by not prefacing it with "I don't hate men and I don't think the average man is significantly more toxic overall than the average woman and I definitely believe a positive masculinity that benefits both men and women is possible and has existed throughout history and into our current times and I'm not saying every form of stoicism is bad and I'm not blaming men just for conforming to the expectations society sets for them which I know includes women too but...".

Unfortunately even with all that preface some men will feel threatened because feminism has weaponized the word masculinity.

[–]Lillazilla 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I wish there was a better name for society's idea of masculinity because when you hear "toxic masculinity" it's been by radical "feminists" so much that it has that negative connotation.

[–]PlatinumBeetle 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most people hear "masculinity" and they think "what men are like" and don't think of whether those characteristics are biological vs sociological or individual vs universal. Most people are concrete and extroverted thinkers. This is probably a conversion more suited for abstract and introverted ones.

[–]mradlezile 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have no idea what that nunya is on about. Yes part of the problem is the gender empathy gap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PgH86OyEM&list=LLrHZw6YbzbB_mNXoduVe91g&index=3&t=0s

and yes sexism affects people in multiple positive and negative ways: What you said is perfectly described here. Grt watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L254KuLx-4Y

although there are plenty of other thins e.g. men have less services, work full time more and cant access helthcare as easily, family courts etc

[–]Evilcon21 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like she hasn’t had a man in her life. But seriously its vile that she’s wishing anyone to be raped. I don’t think you worded it wrong.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've seen people called a rape apologist by radical feminists, but this is the first time I'm seeing a woman wishing rape upon a woman. Archive this shit.

[–]Lillazilla 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm like 99.9% sure it's a man because they also told me "no penis, no opinion."

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is an example of a rage bait post. Why do the mods continue to allow this? These should be banned from the sub if they offer nothing other than a reaction.

[–]Lillazilla 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This isn't meant to get a reaction...?

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It offers nothing other than to get a reaction from the users of this sub.

[–]Lillazilla 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not trying to get a reaction, I'm trying to get an actual discussion. I'm not trying to start a circle jerk or get anyone angry.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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