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Children with out fathers twice as likely to commit suicide. Men's rights are children's rights.

Spudzzy7s

November 22, 2019

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Title	Children with out fathers twice as likely to commit suicide. Men's rights are children's rights.
Author	Spudzzy7s
Upvotes	68
Comments	16
Date	November 22, 2019 1:48 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/dztwcg/children_with_out_fathers_twice_as_likely_to/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/children-with-out-fathers-twice-as-likely-to.864377 https://theredarchive.com/post/864377

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

[–]jacksleepshere 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]TiredRick 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]Ashenox 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Neither one of us chose the beginning of the pregnancy, no birth control method is 100%. But we both chose what happened with it afterwards.

I haven't asked for a dime from him for any kind of support and never will - and I went to great personal expense to allow the man that physically abused me (but not the kid) to have as much of a chance as possible to co-raise our child, for the sake of our child, because I do know fathers are important. It's a long, dark, and somewhat morbidly amusing (now, ten years later) saga that I don't feel like getting much more into at the moment.

Not all men can or should be fathers, and certainly not all women can or should be mothers. I'm just glad my kiddo doesn't see all these articles telling him how much he's going to suck as a human being simply because only one of us actually stepped up to be a parent.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But it's still a good policy to avoid this situation when possible.

That I can certainly agree with, and I'd never advocate for anyone to become a single parent without a damn good reason. Purposely bringing a child into this world, knowing for sure beforehand that you'll be doing it alone, is irresponsible at best.

Purposely cutting an even marginally competent parent (assuming the child is still safe, I know plenty of weekend parents that are really only ever responsible humans when they have their kids) out just for spite is despicable and damages everyone involved.

I pointed out the original quote, though, because the parenting itself really does make a difference, for all types of single-parent kids. If one is purposely and obviously badmouthing the ex and estranging their child from their other parent, that's going to be a big factor, and is certainly likely to cause depression, or at the very least add to what's already there. Proper co-parenting, or when that's not possible (like for my situation) at least not making the absent parent out to be the 'bad guy', will improve their overall mental health chances dramatically.

[–]TiredRick 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I know. And it's wrong, and it shouldn't happen, and I wholeheartedly advocate for it to stop. I know many great single fathers, plenty of average ones, and even a few that are complete walking shitshows in every other aspect of life except for fatherhood. I support a father's right to father, just as much as a mother's (maybe more, my dad went through a lot to raise me, after my mom left us), if they're both even somewhat competent.

There were just a whole slew of articles like this yesterday, and they finally started to needle at me a bit. Like I said in another reply, I'm glad my kiddo hasn't read all these fun things about how he's apparently screwed as a human simply because of his father's choices. He's a bright, happy, amazing child, and the lengths that some of these studies go to, to make it sound like any child of a single mother is just a ticking time bomb, is pretty depressing in and of itself.

[–]TiredRick 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I get that. I don't see as much about so-called 'deadbeat dads' in the news as I did even just a decade ago, but it's possible I'm just not looking at the same media that I was back then. And those are just as frustrating to read, I do know good men who've been horribly disenfranchised.

When my ex-stepmom skipped the state with my baby half-brother, my dad couldn't even make it to court in the state that she filed in, much less afford a lawyer, and the internet wasn't anywhere near the resource that it is now, so he didn't know if there were any other options.

We lived in poverty most of my childhood, and she's a decent chunk of the reason for it - she didn't need the money, she was just bitter. Actually, I think she's the only woman I've ever known personally that pretty much fits this sub's view of feminists to a T, and I despise her for what she did to the whole family.

Everything is a case by case unique situation, and nothing ever fits into a cookie cutter pattern.

This is absolutely true.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]RIPOldAccountF 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link