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Discrimination5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/MensRights11/07/17 09:06 PM
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Discrimination5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/MensRights05/08/18 01:14 PM
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Anti-MRM5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/MensRights28/01/20 07:15 PM
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Discrimination5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/MensRights19/09/15 12:38 PM
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Discrimination5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/MensRights31/08/18 05:33 PM
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5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/AntiFeminists06/07/19 11:54 AM
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Discussion5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/17 12:36 PM
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Social Issues5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/MensRights12/10/18 12:46 PM
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Social Issues5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/MensRights27/11/19 01:45 PM
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Ragebait5th_Law_of_Robotics/r/MensRights09/03/15 12:59 AM
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At least he had plenty of time to reflect on all the privileges being born male granted him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/20 12:18 PM
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I could see some arguing that the fact that all the people being exonerated of rape after decades are men is proof women are being discriminated against and we should still exonerating men until we've cleared an equal number of women falsely sentenced to 50 years for rape (just as soon as they find even a single one).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/20 12:17 PM
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If a white rights group went around referring to toxic blackness and insisting every problem the black community faces is caused by that and it's literally impossible for any external systemic discrimination against them to exist I suspect people would decide that's bigoted pretty damn quick.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 10:46 PM
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The response I've gotten on that is the term toxic masculinity is in common use but toxic Femininity isn't, instead they prefer internalized misogyny and that's just the way it is because language can never be changed ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/20 10:45 PM
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And the people who claim it's misogyny would never say society hates butch lesbians because misandry. Nope, that's misogyny again because it's hatred of a woman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/20 05:13 PM
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We need it far more. Both men and women are biased in favor of women. This isn't simply common knowledge, it's been studied. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15491274/ A movement to encourage men to support women more is like a movement to get the poor to stand up for the 1%.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/20 12:27 PM
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I'd like to see someone ask Emma if she'd back a program shaming women for not supporting men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/20 12:13 PM
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If it was a klansman do you think they would have given them a platform to spew hate unchallenged?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 02:06 PM
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Tech companies are moving away from "master/slave" terminology. Funny how that works. Feminists create these terms and then pretend it's impossible to ever change language while insisting we change things like "fireman" to be gender neutral.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 01:56 PM
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I meant what the author described sounds like menslib. Limiting men's issues to internal problems and toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/20 12:33 PM
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Sounds like menslib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/09/20 11:59 AM
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It absolutely should be. But half the country is still angry at the idea of black lives mattering. Try to introduce gender in to it and you'll get no support. The right believes in traditionalism so they're fine with men being killed and the left would scream misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 12:17 AM
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This is just going to be one of those issues where women absolutely will not see eye to eye with men. A woman will never have to doubt that she's the mom. And as a culture we don't do a good job teaching women to have empathy for men's problems
/r/MensRights13/08/20 11:59 AM
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What was the last straw for you with ML?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/20 12:58 PM
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Then why is it when men bully other men it's never called internalized misandry? Instead it's toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights10/07/20 12:26 PM
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They'd likely argue that the only reason women ever need saving is because men are attacking them. Fires and shipwrecks are caused by Patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/20 01:11 PM
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Multiple cities are burning because the cops love to kill black men and this lady adds to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 07:07 PM
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Classic toxic femininity.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 11:48 AM
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Yep. Many women absolutely despise equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 04:19 PM
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What do you think should be done to fix women and their problematic sexual fantasies? Maybe if men took control of their internet? Also you get that the 70s was before the internet? Porn existed but it was much harder to find.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:53 AM
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Have these same women got a problem with men masturbating without porn? Probably. Yeah. Do they have a problem with erotica & sex scenes in movies? Definitely. Feminists have a problem with men using women as fetishised masturbation aides in order to fuel men's sexual revolution. How very unreasonable of them. You mean women voluntarily working in porn and getting paid? It's a ridiculous argument which is why feminists never make the claim that men are oppressed when they work in gay porn. How a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:52 AM
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Churches, like feminism, seek to control people. Forcing their way in to the bedroom is a good way to exert a lot of control over people. If they have to come ask your permission for acceptable sex then you pretty much have them. It's like how Nazism and Soviet communism had a lot of overlaps without being the exact same thing because their goals were largely the same. Feminism is in many ways a cult. So it follows a lot of the same policies cults do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:45 AM
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Feminists have never been sex positive. The divide has been between those who are fine with women doing whatever they want and those who aren't. Neither side has been ok with male sexuality. So they'd disagree with women being free to profit off their bodies but by in agreement that the men paying them are "problematic" and sexist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 11:42 AM
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That poor fucking dog. I hate this woman.
/r/MensRights26/05/20 10:02 PM
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Some are proven most likely false. Some are proven most likely true. Most can't be proven either way.
/r/MensRights26/05/20 09:58 PM
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Nope. You're equating all female circumcision with the worst kind. Which would be like saying at MGM is like what the Australian aborigenes do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 12:31 PM
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You absolutely can compare them. You think a foreskin is icky and unnecessary. Some cultures feel the same about a clit. Imagine if humanity had never invented circumcision. And you were trying to sell this idea that the magic man in the clouds you talk to says we need to cut off part of a perfectly healthy babies penis and you insist this is the only way to save them. How would society look at you? Oh and sometimes you need to suck the blood out with your mouth which inevitably will give some b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 12:00 PM
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There are women who are happy they were cut. Does that mean we should take the choice from all women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 11:51 AM
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Notice how you have to change the focus?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 01:51 AM
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And you'll agree to stop using anything that requires minerals. Like computers and cell phones?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/20 11:22 PM
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Cool so your solution for "who dies in the mines" is to pretend mines don't exist. Do you understand why that isn't helpful at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/20 10:58 PM
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Of course it would be ideal if no one had to work. But until then, who will be dying in the mines? Men or... of course it's men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/20 10:22 PM
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It's always been this way. It's just that it used to have legitimate issues in addition that covered up for the underlying toxicity.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:55 PM
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Yep. She's worried about losing a grant.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:54 PM
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Apologizes after her grant money is threatened. And it's a very disingenuous apology.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:53 PM
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Yes but women have to deal with sending out birthday cards which is unpaid emotional labor which is basically slavery.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:53 PM
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Yes! Go find an island for all like minded feminists to live on and form a perfect matriarchal lesbian commune. Be sure to burn your passports to stick it to the Patriarchy.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:52 PM
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Compassion for other people. The lack of empathy for men is probably the single biggest factor working against men.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:51 PM
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They've already established that facts are a patriarchal construct to oppress women.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:50 PM
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Ah but they never based their beliefs on facts. It's like trying to scientifically disprove Noah's ark to get people to reject their faith. Ain't going to work.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:50 PM
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I think we should give her as wide a platform as possible to spread her brand of feminism. There are many men and women who will never be MRAs. But they can be turned off of feminism with this stuff.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:49 PM
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Why even put it up to a vote if you already feel the right answer?
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:46 PM
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Thank the goddess men have feminists fighting for them too!
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:45 PM
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Is he making sure the trees he plants will only benefit women and girls? If not he's encouraging patriarchy and rape culture.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:45 PM
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"He's not a Nazi, he's a racist and anti semite!"
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:38 PM
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Are there?
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:37 PM
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Toxic and fragile femininity.
/r/MensRights25/05/20 12:37 PM
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In your perfect society where men do most of the unpaid labor and don't burden women with their feelings and so on.... do women compensate by doing more paid work or is that on men also?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/20 12:05 PM
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Well and if he did file charges I'm sure she'd suddenly remember all sorts of abuse she suffered from him.
/r/MensRights24/05/20 01:19 PM
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Extreme bias in their favor by the overwhelmingly female staff and a curriculum designed to have girls do better than boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 01:18 PM
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As if you cared. I'm certain if you were there in person you'd defend the women and accuse the man of toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 01:17 PM
6

Feminists don't concern themselves with AOC laws because they're almost never used against women. 18 year old woman and 16 year old boy? All good. 45 year old woman and her 12 year old student? All good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 01:05 PM
11

I had to laugh that by day 5 she had basically given up Well she made it almost an entire week suffering male privilege under the Patriarchy. Women are so oppressed!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 12:53 PM
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It's also evidence that women simply do not listen to men. Men talk about this stuff all the time and women casually dismiss it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 12:52 PM
4

Are boys influenced by casual misandry that runs rampant in society?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 12:41 PM
6

So you believe men are strong enough to not be influenced at all by society but women are delicate fragile snowflakes that must be protected?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/20 03:49 AM
2

She wasn't political. Democratic politicians are held to a different standard. Imagine Obama spending all his time rage tweeting the exact same way Trump does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 12:39 PM
3

No, that's a disgusting standard to set. If it had been a Democratic appointee reacting with anger to a gross charge with no supporting evidence, the press would have sided with him. No they wouldn't. Democrats are held to a much higher standard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 12:12 PM
4

I'd say Kavanaugh can't do the job because he completely lost it. Even if the accusation is fake a SC justice ought to be able to keep their composure. It's not like there was any chance the GOP was going to reject him over rape. He could have raped a bunch of women during the hearing and they wouldn't care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 12:04 PM
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Well that's just because women are an underrepresented minority. Did you know there are 2 men for every 3 women in college? That's nearly half which is basically 100%.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 12:54 PM
3

Incredibly sexist. And the reason for the "man flu" is men are less likely to mention lesser illnesses so you only are aware of the ones that really knock him on his ass. Women take far more sick leave and make sure everyone knows when they're sick.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 12:01 PM
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"women lie" Well of course this is misogynist, you're saying all women lie. "Believe women" Well of course we're not saying all women should be believed, it clearly makes the distinction that we should only believe some women.
/r/MensRights22/05/20 11:57 AM
5

Personally I'm voting for Trump because his admin's policies are mostly really good. Ew.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 06:50 PM
10

I'm not voting for Biden so much as against Trump. Even if his opponent is just as bad or worse that's still preferable because the D next to his name means Republicans won't give him a total free pass and Democrats won't either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 05:02 PM
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An objective observation of history forces you to conclude people in power conspire to.... Benefit themselves at everyone else's expense. And if society has a bias it's in favor of protecting women and a couple of powerful men and their families.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 02:57 PM
2

Clearly 8 comments in a day means he can't possibly be doing anything else. It takes an average person about 4 hours to type two sentences right? BTW you post here a lot to troll by your own admission. Is that the extent of your activism?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 01:09 PM
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I'd rather have to sift through low effort posts to find the good ones than to have walls of [deleted] like in most every menslib post. You don't allow people to break the jerk. Accept it and move on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 01:08 PM
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They don't allow low effort posts. The definition for low effort just so happens to be "deviates even slightly from the circle jerk"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 01:07 PM
2

Um yeah it is. It is exactly what they think. Hence the rabid opposition to shared custody.
/r/MensRights21/05/20 12:03 PM
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So how does believe all women work here? Do we believe the accusation or the confession?
/r/MensRights21/05/20 11:53 AM
3

A bit
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 11:27 AM
11

Nazis: men can be raped too!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 11:51 PM
5

I think they're mostly just assholes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 11:50 PM
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Lol those lunatics love menslib: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/gmuat9/what_a_difference_three_letters_make_users_in/fr6roxz Because of course.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 11:48 PM
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Feminist ideology is about blaming and perhaps fixing men. Never helping them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 11:46 PM
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But we're not talking about within a healthy relationship. We're talking about the feminist response. Most women are not feminists which is good. Most women don't hate their husbands or try to invent ways they're being oppressed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 11:49 AM
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Yep. Very much so. There is no right answer for men other than to chop your balls off and become trans. Otherwise everything you do is scrutinized by people who start with the conclusion that you're in the wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/20 11:48 AM
2

They will not be going down. And the point is they're getting the safer jobs...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 07:30 PM
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You're really going to die on this hill of gaslighting us?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 05:34 PM
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Yep. I don't want him banned but I certainly won't assume good faith from him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 03:54 PM
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The thing about Cicero is he's a liar. That's all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 01:36 PM
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You think the two women on the outside of the cage are going down in the cage?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 11:57 AM
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Traditional gender roles. Men are disposable and women are protected.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 11:57 AM
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It'll be noted that no feminist group ever has demanded quotas to get women in to coal mines.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 11:56 AM
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Hey that's not fair, feminist theories only take in to account the to 1% of men. When they're discussing privilege they don't mean those men. They mean the guy that owns the mine. But not his wife or daughters. We'll compare him and his sons to these guys' wives and daughters. See? Nothing but male privilege.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 11:55 AM
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No but empirical reality does.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 11:22 AM
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How can a rich kid bully the kid of one of his dad's employees if he's smaller?
/r/MensRights19/05/20 02:41 AM
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You see that in a lot of subs. AITA is basically asking who is the male in the situation.
/r/MensRights19/05/20 02:41 AM
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Maybe he's yelling.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 02:24 AM
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The mottest of baileys. They knew what they were doing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 02:24 AM
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So if someone says "women lie" you'll defend that as only applying to the women who deserve that label and no one would take it to mean all women lie. Right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 02:23 AM
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You're desperate to rewrite history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 12:38 AM
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Grammatically it's the same thing. "Kill the Jews" .... "I didn't say kill all the Jews!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 12:35 AM
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The left has its evangelicals (SJW/feminists) who do their best to set social policies to hurt men. And the right sets economic/environmental policies that hurt everyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 12:33 AM
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I post here regularly. I am an active member of this sub. You're a self admitted troll here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 12:32 AM
10

In fact it is not in practice allowed to criticize feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 12:30 AM
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You don't allow any comment critical of feminism. It has nothing to do with effort.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 12:28 AM
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Bingo. You have to at least try. V. You have to agree with me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 12:28 AM
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What some call censorship others call cultivating a healthy community. When the average post has more removed comments than remaining ones and the ones that are removed were polite and relevant.... Also you have all sorts of topics that are simply forbidden.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/20 12:27 AM
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I think the menslib folks (the minority that are male) could be said to have toxic masculinity; thinking they need to throw men under the bus to earn good boy points from women. But most of the time it's a misdiagnosis of male disposablilty and objectification.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 07:31 PM
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Most had abusive or absent male parental figures. So they associate masculinity with that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 06:01 PM
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A child was ordered to pay support to his rapist who got full custody of the kid. So no.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:43 PM
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And she hasn't been upfront about it? That's kinda a red flag.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:42 PM
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Telling men to solve their problems by simply giving up gender roles is like telling women in the middle East that all they need to do is give up gender roles for women and they'll be fine.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:42 PM
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Clearly those nurses are all male misogynist neckbeard virgin losers who hate women!
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:41 PM
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Lol. Classic toxic Femininity: get preferential treatment, claim victimhood.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:39 PM
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Ask them if a man could argue she came so it couldn't be rape.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:37 PM
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That's my takeaway. Like the wives saying their husbands won't do the laundry because they fold it differently than they'd like.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:15 PM
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What do they do to help men that's worth all the victim blaming?
/r/MensRights18/05/20 01:13 PM
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Menslib is great if you want to hear about how whatever you're suffering women have it worse and it's due to your own toxic masculinity which is entirely on you to fix and why are you complaining you privileged bastard? Didn't you hear women have it worse? Be a good ally, fight for women's rights and eventually once they have everything they want the benefits will trickle down on you.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:47 PM
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I think it applies to male feminists.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:46 PM
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One of their mods recently came out as MtF. Explains why they have such loathing for masculinity.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:44 PM
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Correct. It's a feminist sub for men's issues which is about like a women's lib movement of stepford wives primarily interested in sharing cooking and cleaning tips to help make life better for their husbands (except in that scenario the men wouldn't hate the women while feminists definitely hold male "allies" in contempt). Or to put it more simply: every single anti male sub recommends menslib as the only acceptable men's sub.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:43 PM
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We looked for human fossils alongside dinosaur fossils to prove that evolution is a hoax and the great flood happened and we couldn't.... Which proves evolution is a hoax and the great flood happened and God used magic to make all the bones change ages and strata!
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:36 PM
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They went in with an agenda but accidentally did research.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:33 PM
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Toxic fragile Femininity.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 12:32 PM
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Let's hope women lose jobs at roughly the same rate. If it's mostly just men being unemployed the response will be they're losers who deserve to starve in the streets.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 12:22 PM
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Actually menslib has discussed this and concluded there's no such thing as good masculinity. It's all bad and needs to go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 12:21 PM
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Workplace sexual harassment? Yeah that sucks and all but men literally die at work. That's worse. Until that is 100% solved women are forbidden to mention their little inconvenience.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/20 12:19 PM
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Toxic fragile Femininity: women have to be the most oppressed persyn in any situation. Always. Otherwise that's misogyny. It's misogyny if they are too. Everything is misogyny always and forever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/05/20 12:51 PM
3

Imagine feeling the need to apologize for being assaulted. That's common for male victims in feminist spaces like menslib. We don't insist women apologize for being assaulted....
/r/MensRights16/05/20 01:54 PM
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She was drinking and he assaulted her with his disgusting man genitals!
/r/MensRights16/05/20 01:53 PM
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Ok so women go do all the frontline work while men stay home.
/r/MensRights16/05/20 01:52 PM
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Sex. Basically they're offering to exchange sex for money. But at far worse rates than a prostitute. Hence why so many women are so violently opposed to prostitution. Those women realize they have nothing else to offer.
/r/MensRights16/05/20 01:52 PM
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Don't you earn a prize? If you just go and buy one that's super pathetic
/r/MensRights16/05/20 01:50 PM
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Ok sure. So let's have a female only military and if not enough women volunteer draft their asses.
/r/MensRights16/05/20 01:49 PM
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They genuinely don't believe any accusation from a woman can be false. If you're accused you're guilty of something.
/r/MensRights16/05/20 01:48 PM
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From what I've read the gender imbalance in China was radically over stated. The missing girls were simply not registered to avoid trouble and they're finding most of all them are magically reappearing around the time they turn 18.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 01:42 PM
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When you set up a belief system where the conclusion is invariably women are the victims we can always conclude women are the victim. It's like: if you pray and get what you want it proves god is listening. If you pray and don't get what you want it's proof God listened and that you don't need that thing. Isn't that amazing?!?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 01:41 PM
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If a university recognized club of MRAs was asked for ways to fix the University and they came back with "tell all the non white women to STFU" would you defend them in this manner?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 04:55 PM
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Well they started by handing out a male privilege checklist. That sounds like menslib.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 04:41 PM
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Seems like pretty typical feminist discourse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 04:41 PM
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'This is not about stopping people from speaking,' she said. 'We're a university that encourages free speech. 'It's about giving space to people who don't feel included on university campuses because of things like gender, language (and) queerness' .... By silencing a minority we don't like (she thought but didn't say).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 04:41 PM
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Actually the opposition to that was based on fears women would be drafted and lose special privileges and feminists extended great effort to convince women that wouldn't be the case. Maybe it would have worked out with women being drafted. But feminists made it clear that wasn't their intent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 02:59 PM
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If that's the alternative shouldn't it be acceptable to force women to become pregnant if the state needs that and not enough are volunteering.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 12:39 PM
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Feminists have never seriously fought to get women drafted. They wrote an op Ed once.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 12:38 PM
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Yes to equal/superior privileges. No to equal obligations. I wish men got to pick and choose like that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 12:38 PM
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Probably life 4 or 5 times. Usually it's predictable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/20 12:13 PM
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Didn't mean it in a negative way. Just curious. Is a feminist saying that to you? If so remember to not look in her eyes, she'll steal your testosterone if you do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 06:33 PM
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Am I being tested? Well it would depend on previous interactions with her but probably I'd point out that a great many misogynistic men are happily married and that doesn't change their bigotry. Just because you'll allow one or two "good ones" doesn't mean you don't generally hate that demographic. Likewise there are racists who have a black mechanic or whatever that they really like and respect. But they still hate black people in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 06:31 PM
2

I'm programmed to only tell the brutal truth
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 06:15 PM
2

I'm a bot
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 06:12 PM
2

That would be technically challenging. But I appreciate your sentiment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 06:06 PM
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Good rule of thumb: if it would help men you can't discuss it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:31 PM
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Under the expanded rule list, moratoria. Here's our own resident menslib mod /u/ciceros_assassin explaining why reproductive Rights for men don't benefit women so it's forbidden: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/3gbjrm/what_are_the_mens_issues_that_this_subreddit/cu0zugh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:25 PM
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You'll get banned from menslib for that. Seriously male reproductive Rights are a forbidden topic according to their side bar.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:18 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/gjh8jm/the_way_you_men_think_is_going_to_push_away/fqljgsc
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:12 PM
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She's been pretty obnoxious to me. I calmly explained why I disagreed and said nothing about her gender and she pulled the "you hate all women" card. Immediately lost any respect for her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 03:10 PM
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I'm surprised the list contained actual issues and wasn't just toxic masculinity and not being good allies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 02:26 PM
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That your Feminism and all Feminism really is based on toxic Femininity. Reject both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 02:25 PM
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You should, as a woman, discuss them in feminist spaces. See they will ban us immediately for not hating men. And we're already discussing those issues here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 02:15 PM
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I am able to understand women’s side more because to me it comes from actual fear of men. I have been in several abusive relationships and it is very easy for me to get sucked into the trauma narrative. It feels good and makes me have power. Toxic Femininity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 02:14 PM
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I’m not trying to make myself a victim, it’s very clear here. You literally just did. "I'm not welcome .... BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN!!!" I'm reminded of Lisa Simpson's heroic attempt to try to get on to the football team... The PMs show this place is ACTUALLY misogynistic. The go-to for the self victimizer. Twox mods complained of the same thing until the admins showed up with proof they were sending those to themselves. You're not a victim. You won't post any screencaps of these PMs with the users n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 02:11 PM
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Not sure what an anti feminist is? Well "anti" is a prefix meaning against and feminist is a religious extremist group dedicated to hating men. I know that I am not welcomed here as a woman and regret ever coming. This is toxic Femininity. You're trying to make yourself a victim. No one cares about your gender. You aren't getting opposition based on that. Stop cosplaying an oppressed victim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 02:00 PM
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No, I’m sick of arguing You came here to argue. Or perhaps to lecture assuming we would apologize to your superior female self. This isn't menslib. I don’t believe men are all perpetrators of violence and I do believe that women can commit violence. So you're one of those anti feminists? My sister in law constantly physically attacked my brother and then cried “mental health” so that she was let out in 72 hours. Technically this is internalized misogyny and toxic masculinity and proof of patriar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 01:45 PM
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Notice how she couldn't answer because she supports the inequality that benefits her but refuses to admit it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 01:33 PM
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Actual toxic masculinity in action.
/r/MensRights14/05/20 12:56 PM
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This reminds me of the black nationalists who insist Africans invented everything, every famous European inventor was really black, and somehow whites just snuck in and stole everything in the 1600s.
/r/MensRights14/05/20 12:55 PM
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That figures.
/r/MensRights14/05/20 12:51 PM
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Yeah but how does that benefit women?
/r/MensRights14/05/20 12:50 PM
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I think that's a great list to get average men to totally reject the concept of toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights14/05/20 12:44 PM
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What are your thoughts on the duluth model
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 12:34 PM
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Yep
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 12:34 PM
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Women staying home more is spun as oppression when in reality it's due to women being more free to make that choice. And feminists don't even believe it because they fight against shared custody tooth and nail knowing if it was normalized women would have to work more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 12:34 PM
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So basically feminists will agree to be on our side if we agree men have zero issues and women always have it worse and all advocacy should focus on women and women only. K. Hard pass.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 11:38 AM
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Yes. That should be paid, by the government, at $27/hr.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 11:36 AM
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Nah, c'mon, don't beg off like that. What you're saying is some combination of "issues that impact gender/sexual minority men aren't a fit topic for a men's issues forum" You're so transparently desperate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/05/20 11:29 AM
8

Ain't male privilege grand?
/r/MensRights13/05/20 01:11 PM
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Listening to feminists.
/r/MensRights13/05/20 01:11 PM
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Something I've never gotten an answer for: if men committing suicide more is proof positive masculinity is toxic then wouldn't women attempting more prove either femininity is more toxic or women are often attempting for attention rather than legitimately trying? Can't be both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 12:08 PM
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Who pays the single men who have to cook and clean and so on for themselves while also working?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 12:03 PM
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Then perhaps take what I said at face value. You're desperate to get a "God hates fags" or "trans people are mentally ill" or whatever out of me so you can run back to menslib and declare anyone who isn't you is a bigot. Unfortunately for you I don't think that way. I just don't like seeing their issues paraded around as an excuse for ignoring the things men suffer for being men. Black men don't get much longer sentences than black women due to race. Boys in poverty don't do worse in school than…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 12:02 PM
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Yeah. Yes insinuating I'm against these things rather than being against using them as a bludgeon against men's rights. Intersectionality in practice is just a way to deny anything bad ever happens to men because they're men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 11:59 AM
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K. How about you say what you think I mean.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 03:03 AM
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That's ok.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 12:22 AM
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That you pretty much exclusively fixate on fringe issues that let you pretend to discuss men's issues but in reality it's a smokescreen. You'll discuss trans issues under the pretext that some trans people are men. Same with gay issues. Black issues. Poverty issues. Etc. But things that are unique to men, eh pretty much you'll only allow toxic masculinity and well actually women have to worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 12:13 AM
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It's called patriarchy and it's a certified femfact. You must accept it as Truth before being allowed to discuss anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 11:51 PM
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When objectively tallied up men and women in a marriage do different work but about the same total hours. They just tend to not count traditional male tasks in these surveys (and women tend to over report).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 11:23 PM
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Science like that there's this vast male conspiracy to oppress women with things like air conditioning and sitting with your legs not totally together?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 11:21 PM
1

Do you recognize that most men aren't bisexual or trans nor do they give a shit about the gender politics of flowers? How will fighting for the right of trans women to give flowers to their bisexual boyfriends help men with things like education discrimination, sentencing bias, suicide rates and drug abuse, homelessness, lack of assistance for all the above, etc?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/20 11:20 PM
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Not a good faith response.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 07:35 PM
3

So provide your own retconned definition and explain how that will help men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 07:30 PM
5

So attempt a good faith response. Let's see what that looks like.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 07:08 PM
4

You came here to troll. You've admitted as much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 07:03 PM
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Probably don't identify as anything. That just becomes a label feminists will do everything they can to demonize. Just make good arguments on the topic of men's rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 03:57 PM
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"Say you want to kill all cops or admit you're a Trump supporter!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 01:17 PM
3

This is like when twox became a default and every mod was out there crying about the constant barrage of rape threats they were getting now until eventually the admins stepped in and pointed out they were sending those to themselves. Some women are desperate to be victims.
/r/MensRights11/05/20 01:10 PM
3

Classic toxic femininity.
/r/MensRights11/05/20 01:09 PM
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Old, set in your ways, manhating, and smug? Line forms to the left fellas. Also you'll need to be at least 6ft and even though she's doing fine you'll need to make more. And don't be fat or bald.
/r/MensRights11/05/20 01:07 PM
1

I've noticed this is especially prevalent among male feminists. Every one I've seen discuss the topic reports and absent or abusive father. Hence their insistence that masculinity is inherently toxic.
/r/MensRights11/05/20 01:05 PM
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The people at work who insist they're the hardest working people ever and totally unappreciated are generally the ones who do the least. Just saying...
/r/MensRights11/05/20 01:03 PM
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Toxic femininity is the need to build women up by tearing men down.
/r/MensRights11/05/20 01:02 PM
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Every Feminist I've seen so this is a raging hypocrite. Because they will "no true ..." anything that makes feminism look bad but at the same time they'll quote any random dude as speaking on behalf of the MRM. Even if they openly state they have nothing to do with the MRM.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 01:02 PM
8

He admits to just coming here to troll. I think he recognizes that his sub is indefensible (ask him about the time a guy came there for support after being raped and they banned him for being too negative).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 01:00 PM
5

Empathy gap. And negative in group bias. Women are looking out for women. Men are looking out for women. When feminists starting saying the following things are hurting us they didn't need a follow-up of "and it's bad that we're suffering".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 12:36 PM
175

They never talk to men. They talk at them. So their ideas on what men are like are based on circle jerking and bigotry.
/r/MensRights11/05/20 12:25 PM
6

Why do you think Feminists lobby against men's shelters?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 11:53 AM
5

He's just trolling.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 11:53 AM
7

They do discuss plenty of men's issues. They just don't do it the way you want (everything is due to toxic masculinity and the solution is more feminism) so you dismiss it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 11:52 AM
8

Analytical framework of feminism: there's a conspiracy against women called the Patriarchy which seeks to benefit men in all ways and oppress women in all ways. Women are perfect and victims. Men are toxic and privileged. There. That's your starting off point for advocacy for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 11:50 AM
12

Have you actually been to ML?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:36 AM
12

So the fact that men simply don't matter has no impact on addressing men's issues....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:36 AM
15

Let the record show he cannot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:35 AM
6

It's plenty specific.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:28 AM
14

Can you actually list any?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:28 AM
9

So it has nothing to do with male disposability?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:27 AM
12

Isn't that because feminism is assumed as per your rules.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:26 AM
12

Can you think of any problem men face that you lot wouldn't blame on toxic masculinity?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:24 AM
7

Equality?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/20 02:23 AM
31

I've asked Feminists in response to this if shaming women for failing to be feminine is toxic femininity the way they claim that for toxic masculinity. The answer was of course not, that would be misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 05:25 PM
6

Also I should point out you absolve yourself of responsibility when menslib is criticized.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 03:31 PM
9

Yes. You do. What are your thoughts on banning male rape victims for not being happy about what happened to them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 02:18 PM
5

... liberating women will automatically liberate men. This even extends to feminist spaces that are supposedly male-oriented like r/MensLib Not true. No it's entirely true. I've seen this exact sentiment, that fixing women's problems will help men through magic, many times in there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 01:45 PM
6

He also thinks men who are raped shouldn't be angry about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 01:43 PM
2

Surely you agree.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 01:43 PM
5

Cease to exist. Advocacy for men shouldn't have a place, in their view. It shouldn't be a thing. Bingo. It's like asking MLK and his followers what they should have done to be accepted by the Jim Crow crowd. Die. Or fall in line. Or... No that's it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 01:42 PM
5

Turns out masculinity isn't all that toxic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 01:41 PM
5

Welcome to male privilege. As a man everything always goes your way and women have it worse, doesn't matter what the subject is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/20 01:41 PM
2

Pretty much any guy will be stronger than her.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 01:37 PM
1

I'll give up my seat to the very old (men or women) or those with an obvious physical disability. Otherwise your legs are fine. And no, female isn't a disability
/r/MensRights10/05/20 01:36 PM
3

A gender gap feminists have no interest in closing.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 01:35 PM
2

Yeah sexual assault against men is frequently a punchline. 40 days 40 nights has a guy being tied up and raped by a woman while he's clearly saying no and he is spun as the bad guy and forced to apologize to his girlfriend for cheating and he has to win her back after doing that to her. Flip the genders and the director would never work again.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 01:35 PM
5

I'd be curious to see how low that number gets if we eliminate nonconsensual fatherhood. If women knew men had to opt in how many would still "forget" their birth control.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 01:33 PM
1

So told they're incompetent babysitters and go do more work than their spouses while being called lazy and worthless? They'd hate that.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 01:32 PM
2

They don't make as much. It's like an actor who thinks they're amazing for only doing indie films demanding to be paid the same as Clooney because they're just as talented. Um, no.
/r/MensRights10/05/20 01:30 PM
21

More than not caring most women report being disgusted by men who appear weak or emotional.
/r/MensRights09/05/20 08:10 PM
8

Women tend to overestimate their roll around the house. By self estimation they do far more of the house work than is actually measured objectively.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/05/20 10:22 PM
47

"menfolk should be seen but not heard. Especially when the women are talking". Congrats, you've reinvented the mad men era.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/20 01:26 PM
18

Because feminism is a hate movement.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/20 01:15 PM
6

If we hadn't shut down the hospitals would now be overwhelmed and we'd have vastly more deaths. Ask Italy how that went.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/20 01:15 PM
7

Menslib is male focused? When did that happen?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/20 12:53 PM
8

Yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/05/20 12:52 PM
2

Have you been to menslib? I think you'd like it.
/r/MensRights04/05/20 12:49 PM
9

"I only punched her unconscious because I had a stressful day at work!". Oh well you're free to go.
/r/MensRights04/05/20 12:49 PM
5

It's like when you guys banned that guy for being upset at being laughed at when he was raped...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/20 04:38 PM
10

Yeah I've asked and no feminist has ever attempted to explain this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/20 08:59 PM
4

And they say masculinity is fragile.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/20 12:34 PM
18

Hundreds of global conflicts that see 99% of those on the front lines dying being male: meh. One global pandemic where slightly higher than half of those out fighting it are women: zomg oppression!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 07:34 PM
1

Male privilege in action.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 02:15 PM
13

They're somewhat to the right, I'd imagine largely due to the hostility towards men shown by many on the left. But you can find all sorts of political views there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 02:05 PM
6

Intersectionality was created as a way to deny men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/20 01:39 PM
5

"it is my obligation as a man to work myself to death to benefit others"
/r/MensRights30/04/20 01:34 PM
6

"we're fine with men feeling obligated to suffer and maybe die to benefit us! "
/r/MensRights30/04/20 01:33 PM
1

And notice it is mostly women stopping to look.
/r/MensRights29/04/20 06:03 PM
5

And the ones directing to gendercritical, femaledatingstrategy, askfeminists and yes, even MensLib. Tomato tomato
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/20 12:02 AM
1

Also he probably didn't let m'lady go first always and be sure she was safe before taking any action.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 12:20 PM
4

To provide a warning of the perils of weaponized sophistry and feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 11:41 AM
3

Again, it was entirely fictional
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 11:39 AM
3

Very good reasons. You're hostile and you lie and rarely answer in good faith. You seem to be trolling and little more. You certainly don't listen and when asked a direct question more often than not you just attack the person asking it without a thought of answering.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 02:51 AM
3

Notice he avoided addressing the issue and engaged in personal attacks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 02:00 AM
2

You could at least attempt to engage in something adjacent to good faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 02:00 AM
2

With reason.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 01:59 AM
3

You keep on weaponizing that guy's trauma No. I continue referencing your past behavior to demonstrate where your priorities lie. Shilling for feminism comes first. Helping men, eh, take it or leave it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 01:58 AM
9

It was an ok idea ruined by toxic femininity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/20 12:24 AM
23

I've had many arguments with feminists where they transition seamlessly between all men are shit, but not trans men, but trans men are just men no different than cis men, and all men are shit, but not trans men, but trans men are just ....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 06:49 PM
1

It's weird he hasn't figured out the can't gaslight his way out of this. If he'd just said it was a mistake and they'll try to be more accepting of male victims in the future it would be a non-issue. Instead he's Trumping out "I never did that, fake news! Here's why I did that and it was the right call"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 05:00 PM
2

Male feminism, it's a hell of a drug
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 03:30 PM
1

Oh wow so you did think that gaslighting attempt would work
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 03:29 PM
2

I think you meant to reply to someone else
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 03:29 PM
1

You're blatantly lying yes. I never said the only reason to invite a woman to any game ever is for sex. I said that's the reason he's WKing and then trying to get her to meet up. It's like if I pointed out some guy who catcalled a woman and said he's hoping to get laid and it won't work and you interpreted that as me saying the only reason any man would speak to any woman is for sex. Specific individual and specific situation strawmanned to be about all people and all situations. Did you really …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 02:55 PM
-1

Yeah you keep hammering that strawman. I'm not sure why you think blatantly lying will work here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 02:22 PM
1

So what's the reason then? I'm a child. I need the answer spelled out. Correct. This will not result in sex. But sad desperate socially awkward men (eg male feminists) have convinced themselves it will work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 01:48 PM
1

By another user who said he should have. Others said, while true, it's just as reasonable to report of he was made uncomfortable by the interaction himself. Strong words. Did you admonish him on that front? I wasn't in the thread? Nor does my opinion require it to be written in response to him for it to be true? Well if you're trying to make the case that the sub put him in his place some evidence of that would help.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 01:42 PM
2

The only reason to transition from an online system that's working just fine to meeting her at a restaurant after desperately white knighting for her is... This is super obvious. The fact that you don't see it suggests you're in the same boat. There is no conversion rate of good-boy points to sex because it never happens. You'd think menslib would have wised up by now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 01:31 PM
1

Go ahead and refrain from personal attacks if you're able. How was it established that he should have asked her. Did you admonish him on that front? No? So your comment was nonsensical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 01:28 PM
1

Also not an accurate representation. This makes it sound like he's fishing for a date. That's what happened. They play the game IRL at a restaurant. But right now play over the web. Which the only reason to make it in person with her is.... You should let him know he'll never have sex with her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 01:26 PM
1

I mean yeah, of course you support the white Knight and think this is some huge issue. But don't expect everyone else to entertain those delusions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 01:18 PM
4

Bingo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 01:06 PM
2

What do you mean "if"? https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/g7ppg7/z/fojqsjv Did you read the thread? And it's all related. If she wasn't upset then this becomes even more of a non issue for menslib to discuss. He just wanted his good boy points. He did discuss wanting to meet up with her in person at a restaurant after this is over. So yeah....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 01:04 PM
36

The male feminist who feels the need to tear down men to build up women could be consider a form of toxic masculinity. He's taking the "protect women" thing to a toxic extreme.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 12:46 PM
4

A key factor you may have missed is that the woman involved wasn't particularly upset and didn't demand this reaction at all. The White Knight took this role upon himself for good-boy points.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 12:42 PM
3

Because it's fucking stupid. The woman whose avatar was virtually raped to death wasn't even that bothered by it. Mr. White Knight took it upon himself to be offended for her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 12:40 PM
3

I've seen mods use this logic. Ban you for no reason then retroactively justify it by you complaining about the ban.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 12:39 PM
26

I've had countless arguments on this where the feminist will say "nu uh that's based on race because intersectionality. It's really black men that are suffering and every other man is privileged". Point out that it's actually across the board and they'll typically either run away or try to claim it's really based on poverty or some other excuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 11:52 AM
2

Also there's a regular there, TiTs, who found a lady who admitted to getting a guy drunk so she could rape him and made a point of apologizing to her on behalf of all men for and she had to go through.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 11:50 AM
2

Please note I've already provided the link of you admitting it so you'll want to start spinning now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 11:47 AM
2

No, but then that's not what happened with that one guy whose trauma you've been weaponizing against ML and me personally for going on five years, either. That's exactly what happened. You admitted as much. If you were raped and everyone you told laughed in your face would you be angry with them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 11:46 AM
5

He's brainwashed I think. He's convinced if he gets enough feminist good boy points something magical will happen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 03:28 AM
3

If a woman was raped and she told an MRA and he laughed in her face because of course women can't really be raped would you ban her for being critical of the male MRAs who laughed at her? Yes or no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 03:27 AM
6

Post is gone of course. Here's Cicero admitting it though: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/45jbdv/discussion_what_do_you_think_about_this_article/czyzfph
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 03:22 AM
2

I can and do deny it, So... Lying? But why?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 03:06 AM
6

You're disingenuously asking me if I think an interaction in a D&D game is worse than an actual sexual assault Notice how he couldn't answer. Is a male victim of actual rape worse off than a female victim of cyber... I don't even know.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 03:05 AM
6

I mean you can't deny that menslib is entirely anti men and only focuses on issues that benefit Feminism and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 02:04 AM
8

The vast majority of posts here aren't about your sad hate sub. That being said it is worth keeping tabs on what people opposed to men's rights are up to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 02:02 AM
3

Would you say that what happened to this woman was worse than what happened to that guy you banned for being upset about being actually raped in real life?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/20 02:01 AM
5

I think I've made it clear that I tend not to engage with you when you're being blatantly and offensively dishonest. Sure and that's fair. But I'm never dishonest so I don't see how that applies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 09:57 PM
3

Probably best to just distrust all feminists in all scenarios.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:01 PM
5

Op is a male sadly. So maybe he's hoping her character will reward his character with make believe sex
/r/MensRights26/04/20 02:00 PM
6

Sounds like she wasn't. He never got her consent to white Knight.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:59 PM
6

Reminder they banned a guy for being upset he was raped because the female Feminists he told laughed at him. But virtual ass grabbing, that's serious.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:58 PM
7

I've reported you for murder and arson.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:57 PM
3

Well, male.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:55 PM
4

One character slapped another character. They aren't even in the same room.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:54 PM
5

Sounds like she wasn't actually that upset and didn't ask him to do any of this.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:54 PM
7

"we should round up all men and execute them!" -did you say you wanted to execute all black men? "No no of course not, just all men in general regardless of race" -oh thank goodness. For a second I thought you were a bigot
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:53 PM
23

"we support shelters for men so long as they're hypothetical. If you actually make one you're doing it wrong".
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:40 PM
23

So basically you're a misandrist.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:39 PM
14

She was led right up to the water but refused to drink.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:37 PM
2

The two genders: woman and generic.
/r/MensRights26/04/20 01:37 PM
1

Toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 01:19 PM
8

I prefer to have the draft abolished entirely since I consider it to be a violation of personal autonomy. Extending the draft to women would just be extending the suffering. Disagree. Extending it to women is the best way to ensure it's never used and ultimately ended. It's like if we said if there's a draft we'll draft all the sons of rich people/politicians and send them to the front first. Suddenly we'd discover the cost of war is too high.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 01:17 PM
12

They're calling it rape now? A nonexistent character slapped a nonexistent ass over Skype.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 01:16 PM
12

To be clear they weren't in the same room and he had his character slap her character's ass. Not actual harassment. If that's counted as real harassment then they should also all be in prison for the literal assault and murder they commit against each other every game.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 01:15 PM
11

/u/Ciceros_Assassin trolls here pretty regularly. What are you thoughts on the community cheering for that whitest of knights while you guys ban men who aren't happy they were laughed at for being raped?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 01:13 PM
26

And all it took to bring him around was, what sounds like years of intense abuse from an unhinged woman who society would have sided with if she killed him or if he hurt in self defense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/20 01:12 PM
1

I feel exactly the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/20 12:30 PM
4

I suspect this is a troll....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/20 07:54 PM
5

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/
/r/MensRights23/04/20 07:53 PM
4

Well for starters it doesn't. So there's that. And if it's a discussion on male victims maybe talk about male victims. If this was a workplace accident that killed 3 women I wouldn't expect them to divert the discussion to the fact that mostly men are killed in workplace accidents.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 07:34 PM
4

What is stealthing? Secretly removing a condom mid-sex.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 06:45 PM
5

With all the evidence he's collected there's a chance he won't be totally fucked. But yeah most likely this ends badly.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 01:32 PM
19

Honestly it's rape. Men stealthing women is tried as rape so this definitely should count. It won't be. And likely that won't change any time soon. But it definitely should be.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 12:31 PM
6

Surprisingly most comments are supportive of him and calling her out. If it was AITA it would be different ....
/r/MensRights23/04/20 12:15 PM
6

So that's abuse and depending on how you define the term, rape. It's good for him she was dumb enough to get caught. We'll never know how many men were too trusting or how many women were too clever on this.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 12:09 PM
4

That's a big part of it. Feminists and tradcons are enamored with female privileges and see any change to those as an attack on women.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 11:24 AM
6

Male disposability. Something so obvious and engrained in society that feminists totally deny the possibility of its existence.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 11:22 AM
3

Domestic violence isn't popular. Who knew?
/r/MensRights23/04/20 11:22 AM
3

Do you realize true feminism is equal rights for all Lol. Unless by equal you mean equal and by all you mean all. Men activism is technically a form of far right feminism Ahhhhhhhhhahahaha! Except no. We aren't fixated on this Patriarchy conspiracy nonsense or claiming that we can solve all men's problems by criticizing toxic masculinity and male privilege and so on. Feminism is men and women having equal custody rights like many men on here want, Except in practice they lobby against that. it i…
/r/MensRights23/04/20 11:20 AM
8

Minister Scharrenbach stressed that domestic violence "predominantly affects women" and confirmed that most funding and resources will continue to go to helping female victims. Oh good. For a second there I was worried a single article might be entirely dedicated to discussing men.
/r/MensRights23/04/20 11:17 AM
4

Why don't men cry more? Well for starters it doesn't help them. If men could murder their spouses and get a reduced/no sentence if they pretend to be upset (letting the viewer assume he was the victim of abuse) you'd see every man on trial for murder cry like this.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 09:11 PM
2

There'd be a lot more abortions and women would be more careful with BC.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 09:09 PM
3

So they cover the entire range of acceptable positions when it comes to gender disparity favoring women: men are shit, women are superior.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 12:46 PM
56

"What we mean by equality is we get to pick what we want to be equal on while maintaining privilege in other areas. So it's a kind of equality that results in female supremacy"
/r/MensRights22/04/20 12:45 PM
2

False rape accusations are a problem but they’re just as big a problem as being falsely accused of any other serious crime This is in no way true.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 12:03 PM
3

Can you show me the last feminist protest demanding harsher sentences for women in the name of equality?
/r/MensRights22/04/20 12:03 PM
3

The Patriarchy is nonfalsifiable conspiracy theory based on various fallacies.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 12:02 PM
1

All your responses in this sub indicate you're attempting to convert the heathens. Not listen to them.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 12:00 PM
1

It won't. Not active communities. It's a catch 22: any sub that is closed off and censored enough to attract feminists by definition won't have anyone else. Any open sub they'll avoid like the plague.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:59 AM
1

Explain how debate is possible when one side bans the other simply for disagreeing.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:58 AM
1

Feminists proselytize. They do not debate. They certainly don't listen.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:58 AM
1

And when discussing the female side it's... internalized misogyny. Because toxic femininity makes it sound like women are toxic....
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:57 AM
3

Try this: you claim toxic masculinity toxic gender norms for men. Cool so then women being pure virgins is a toxic gender norm for women. In certain cultures this translates to women who were raped being shunned by society. Could you imagine any feminist ever in history looking at a woman in the middle East being stoned to death for being raped and saying "well that's toxic Femininity for you. They just need to not be that way and it'll solve itself. Now that that's fixed back to real issues... …
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:56 AM
1

They've got you well trained.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:53 AM
2

So instead of discussing real problems just blame everything on toxic masculinity and then get back to being good allies. If we do that we might get a good boy point!
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:53 AM
1

Toxic femininity and a culture that enables it.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:48 AM
1

Part of toxic femininity is building women up by tearing men down, particularly on things like child care.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:46 AM
2

And anti men.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:39 AM
8

That's all intersectionality is: a desperate attempt to blame anything but gender for the problems men face.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:38 AM
5

Basically they want to pick and choose between equality and traditional privilege.
/r/MensRights22/04/20 11:34 AM
1

Feminists are ok with men serving women. Just so long as they don't get any special recognition or reward.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 02:22 PM
7

When you don't have any accountability for your actions and always have an excuse to blame men for your actions. Toxic Femininity in other words.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 02:00 PM
5

Equality now. Ok let's explain why equality isn't really what we want.
/r/MensRights20/04/20 01:57 PM
9

I suspect this is an unusual sub to you since it allows discussion and isn't based on the immutable conclusion that women have it worse always. Also this sub wouldn't ban a man for being upset about being raped...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 01:05 PM
7

They're very diverse. They have the manhaters and the misandrists and the female supremacists and....
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 01:05 PM
3

K
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/20 01:03 PM
1

Of course you don't.
/r/MensRights19/04/20 11:27 AM
3

Uhhh who’s mutilating your penis? Frequently doctors. What's your point?
/r/MensRights19/04/20 11:26 AM
4

I'm sure. Go try to start a conversation with feminists this way. Report how it goes.
/r/MensRights19/04/20 11:26 AM
2

So you're against feminism on this.
/r/MensRights19/04/20 11:24 AM
5

In the US they're finding blacks have a lower survival rate. Imagine if race was a factor that could get you denied care. Do you think anyone would be upset?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 11:22 AM
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AHS is itself a hate sub. I was banned for linking to a black nationalist sub discussing murdering all police. They clearly have an agenda. If they decide to not like us... oh no! I really don't care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/20 11:21 AM
2

Well you're just a bad person.
/r/MensRights19/04/20 11:09 AM
12

Well personally in general I would support removing prison time for non-violent crimes for everyone. Not just women? Yes I agree with you, that is a legitimate issue, however I don’t really see it garnering as much support in current culture and times, maybe a few decades down the line. Yes according to every feminist I've talked to there are a handful of men's issues that they'll begrudgingly acknowledge and the right time to address them is "not now". Let's wait until everyone is already onboa…
/r/MensRights18/04/20 06:50 PM
7

Shouldn't you adjust for types of jobs and hours worked? https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/mobile/time-spent-working-by-full-and-part-time-status-gender-and-location-in-2014.htm Men work longer hours.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 06:48 PM
17

Can you link any comment of yours where you start a conversation with feminists this way?
/r/MensRights18/04/20 06:44 PM
17

Feminists do not want to address this. Feminists in the UK are fighting to expand the gap with a program that would remove all prison time for non violent female criminals only. So would you say this is a legitimate issue for men's groups to address?
/r/MensRights18/04/20 06:44 PM
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So I want you guys to try to convince me with your arguments in a non-toxic manner. However I will bring up my points and knowledge I’ve gained in studying politics if I see a contradictory statement. Wow you really sold me on the idea you're here in good faith. Let's see: men get longer sentences for the same crime after adjusting for all factors other than gender. That's bad.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 06:33 PM
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And then they spin it as discrimination against the elderly only.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 06:31 PM
3

Why? I've been told it's nothing but privilege and power. Everything is handed to you
/r/MensRights18/04/20 01:22 PM
3

Toxic masculinity!
/r/MensRights18/04/20 01:21 PM
5

Not everyone. Feminists still like her. MeToo has her back. And I'm sure she's still a UN ambassador for something.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 01:21 PM
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Thanks for femsplaining why men are shit and what they should do differently to better serve you Vanessa.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 01:19 PM
3

Hence the whole "men suppressing their emotions is toxic" line from feminists. They know women are free to cry and scream and hit and so on while men must be in constant control at all times and if they fail the woman has all the power in that scenario.
/r/MensRights18/04/20 12:56 PM
12

Women impacted most by x. Now, let's figure out what x is this week.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 09:39 PM
2

No you really can't. Patriarchy and all that.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 02:48 PM
3

I didn't say get out of your way to praise them, I said utilize good manners and a bit of emotional intelligence as a tool to get your point across. Good manners won't do Jack shit here. They don't want contradictory thoughts. It has nothing to do with how it's phrased.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 01:53 PM
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Nah. I don't think there's any reason to go out of our way to praise feminists in order to get those elusive good boy points. We know what they stand for. They offer nothing of value. And they will never be on our side.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 11:40 AM
2

Toxic Femininity: trying to use victimhood to control you.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 11:30 AM
10

Much of the discourse about men is from women femsplaining what men are like. The idea of asking and listen to men never occurred to them.
/r/MensRights17/04/20 11:28 AM
3

Nothing says open debate like "if you don't entirely agree with me on everything I'm going to ban you"
/r/MensRights17/04/20 11:26 AM
7

Seriously. Children are impressionable and blameless when led astray by adults. Women aren't children.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 04:33 PM
9

What the author did, deflect personal responsibility to blame men and act like a victim, is a really good example of toxic femininity.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:54 PM
3

Op is just desperate to discredit us by false association.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:53 PM
1

Not the first time someone like this has interacted with the group. I'm sure you have all manner of alts performing false flag operations. Very productive use of your time. But why should we care?
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:52 PM
2

Once. A year ago. And it was nothing at all like what you linked here. So no.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:36 PM
1

What?
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:35 PM
3

So if you research her she's exactly what you expect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Bindel Her political description is "lesbian feminism" and her main focus is defending women who murder men.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:21 AM
10

Women are at least as fixated on looks in a partner as men are. Men are just willing to admit it.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:15 AM
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Toxic Femininity: always finding some excuse to avoid responsibility by blaming some nebulous male conspiracy.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:13 AM
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Men: uh turn on each other. Women: guess we have to.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:12 AM
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So women are extraordinarily impressionable and weak minded?
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:12 AM
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It would never take off. Both women and men have a bias in favor of women. Neither have any bias in favor of men.
/r/MensRights13/04/20 01:06 PM
11

Let's say 18 with their explicit consent.
/r/MensRights13/04/20 01:05 PM
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If women are superior in every way how do they explain the patriarchy? Feminists are like Nazis on this: they rail against this enemy that is simultaneously better than they are in every way (otherwise they wouldn't be the threat claimed) and inferior in every way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/20 01:00 PM
2

privileged cis het white old male ftfy
/r/MensRights12/04/20 01:00 PM
3

I like the idea of women have the right to opt out of parenthood. I like that right so much I'd extend it to men.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:57 PM
1

Toxic masculinity is a misdiagnosis of male disposablilty and male objectification. Toxic femininity certainly exists though.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:54 PM
4

I'm so glad women could go from a majority to a larger majority. When it reaches 100% full equality will be achieved.
/r/MensRights11/04/20 12:57 PM
11

Oh good the focus will shift back to where it's always been.
/r/MensRights10/04/20 11:50 AM
3

Women are either killed by suicides or lose a brother, father, husband, etc. Whereas men aren't much impacted at all. All they lose are their lives which society agrees aren't worth much.
/r/MensRights10/04/20 11:49 AM
6

This isn't what women meant when they demanded gender parity Lol. We know. What you meant wasn't so much equality as supremacy.
/r/MensRights10/04/20 11:46 AM
4

Not a bad payout for mentally and physically abusing someone. But that does raise the question: why are we paying women to be abusive?
/r/MensRights10/04/20 11:45 AM
4

Presumably any article discussing nurses will focus exclusively on male nurses. Right?
/r/MensRights10/04/20 11:43 AM
7

I think the wage gap is kinda like creationism. For the true believer it's a matter of faith. Facts don't enter in to it. Sure sometimes they will half ass pretend otherwise like that creationist museum with models of people playing with dinosaurs. But in the main part that doesn't matter to these people. It's a way of saying I'm a member of x group and have total faith in our belief system.
/r/MensRights10/04/20 11:42 AM
6

MRAs don't hate women and there's no evidence most problems are men's fault.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 11:06 AM
2

I thought you feminists were in favor of a male only draft? It doesn't hurt real people. Amiright?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 03:10 AM
2

It was. You're a troll. Men get drafted. Tradcons and Feminists are ok with that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 02:55 AM
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Literally has nothing to do with anything whatsoever. It's the topic at hand. Do attempt to keep up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 02:52 AM
1

Every feminist is against the draft when the idea of drafting women is floated. After that they get real quiet. Not counting those with white feathers of course.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 02:43 AM
1

I'm not a sociopath like you and her so I'm capable of sympathizing with someone who isn't me.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/04/20 06:25 PM
3

Ain't no science like feminist science because Feminists science is.... Religion cosplaying as legitimate science.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 01:13 PM
1

Because she's an awful person.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/04/20 01:02 PM
2

She suddenly "remembered" that she was raped.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/04/20 01:01 PM
9

Amber in 2020: Johnny Depp murdered me!
/r/MensRights09/04/20 12:16 PM
9

He beat me! "No he didn't Amber. We have evidence you beat him" Uhhh I just remembered he raped me!
/r/MensRights09/04/20 12:13 PM
2

Enid Strict. Just replace Satan with Patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 12:58 PM
1

Many are that's why most women don't identify as feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 10:44 AM
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Your source doesn't say the majority of sex workers are trafficked and the definition of trafficking can include any movement across political lines for work. So like moving to a different state. With no pimp or coercion. If we applied these standards to any job you'd find significant "trafficking".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 10:43 AM
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Idk if you can say feminists hate sex workers. I think it has to do with the fact that most sex workers are victims of human trafficking. That's often claimed. I've never seen any proof. Oh and another thing feminists don’t like is pedophilia. Average age girls enter into sex work is 19, Which wouldn't be a child... and about 44% are 14 or younger. Again with the lack of sources.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 10:40 AM
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I've yet to encounter a truly pro sex feminist. They're either disgusted with sex in general or pro sex for women but still find most expressions of male sexuality "problematic".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/20 10:34 AM
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A few months would be amazing. She won't get anywhere near that.
/r/MensRights08/04/20 09:41 AM
2

So that will never happen. A pretty rich white woman? She's above the law. But at least she's getting some bad publicity.
/r/MensRights08/04/20 09:41 AM
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And you believe women are the ones requiring additional assistance on sentencing?
/r/MensRights08/04/20 01:43 AM
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They're indifferent to it
/r/MensRights08/04/20 01:41 AM
5

Explain how focusing on only helping women is best for everyone?
/r/MensRights07/04/20 06:07 PM
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It's like to draft: as long as it only hurts men it'll be accepted. If it starts hurting women too we might get reform. Yeah it sucks. But men are disposable and no one cares about them. Such is life.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 06:06 PM
7

Congrats you outed yourself as a troll. The first link explicitly states why they only focus on women and Duluth also states that women cannot abuse men.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 06:03 PM
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Women are oppressed! Being treated like men feels oppressive.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 06:00 PM
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When a successful man is forced to pay some ridiculous amount to a woman the argument is always she would have earned xyz if she hadn't stayed home with the kids (or just by herself) and really he was only able to be successful because she was keeping the house in order which is a job that should pay 10 million or so per year etc etc etc.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 03:54 PM
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/Portals/0/Why%2520Women%2520England%2520and%2520Wales.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjmz53ZwtboAhVHb60KHalqCiEQFjAEegQIBxAC&usg=AOvVaw0uFwiW0IQmwgZ4cfxk4ib4 https://avoiceformen.com/featured/opposing-shared-parenting-the-feminist-track-record/ https://www.theduluthmodel.org/what-is-the-duluth-model/frequently-asked-questions/
/r/MensRights07/04/20 02:28 PM
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I'm sure he had to give to his career to help out during those 3 years. Likely he would have earned that much on his own.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 02:16 PM
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Feminists should be ecstatic. A woman was just granted pure male privilege under the Patriarchy! She should check her privilege. And then cut him a check.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 02:15 PM
16

There's a term for someone who trades sex for material gain.......
/r/MensRights07/04/20 02:14 PM
9

Currently feminist organizations are lobbying to remove all prison sentences for nonviolent women only, have successfully killed all attempts at shared custody reform, have created laws that treat men as the only gender capable of domestic violence and have done precisely fuck all on the draft. So tell me, how do you know the majority of feminists don't think this way when all their organizations are saying the opposite. And even if they do what does it matter if their actions are totally differ…
/r/MensRights07/04/20 02:13 PM
3

They'd call it outrage porn and ban you. They allow 2 types of posts: men are toxic/femininity is great and women have it worse.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:20 PM
2

Menslib mod: how is this blaming men and toxic masculinity for everything? How is it supporting the woke notion that women are perfect in every way? This doesn't make any sense!
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:19 PM
1

Sound like a bunch of angry Karens demanding to speak to the manager.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:17 PM
2

I mean of course "the Patriarchy" will never let that happen. But it would be good to drag all this out in to the public eye.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:16 PM
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They do not actually agree on any of it
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:15 PM
3

Lol. "Let's have equality" We get it. You hate women
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:14 PM
2

They aren't. At all. Currently feminists are fighting to expand the sentencing gap. NOW lobbies against shared custody. And so on.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:14 PM
2

Explain how it is a strawpersyn.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:13 PM
11

"See how these evil men starve their children?!?! We were right to deny them custody"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/20 01:07 PM
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Which will then be used to justify denying men aid. "See how they're looting?!?! We were right not to trust those people with food".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/20 12:16 PM
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I wouldn't blame anyone for lashing out when society tells them to quietly starve to death because their genitals are wrong. It's a sad situation. Thanks a lot "Patriarchy".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/20 12:15 PM
1

Despite? For those people that a laudable act.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/20 01:12 PM
2

Kinda looks like institutional misandry to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/20 01:11 PM
8

Toxic femininity and victim culture.
/r/MensRights04/04/20 12:57 PM
3

You now I'm starting to think she's just not a very good person.
/r/MensRights03/04/20 12:09 PM
9

732 evacuated included 30 people.
/r/MensRights03/04/20 12:08 PM
3

And they also say this is unfair to women since it places an extra burden on them to care for others since they aren't dead. Conclusion: women are oppressed. Now let's figure out what the scenario is.
/r/MensRights03/04/20 12:07 PM
1

Let's celebrate when it actually happens.
/r/MensRights03/04/20 12:06 PM
6

I doubt Trump would change that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/20 09:07 PM
2

Courts need to recognize that sometimes girls will be girls. Why should she face any inconvenience for 30 seconds of fun?
/r/MensRights30/03/20 10:56 AM
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She says, while clearly ignoring the order to socially distance.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 02:50 PM
3

Because feminism doesn't care about men.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 02:48 PM
44

It's a way of shaming men in to better serving women.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 02:48 PM
190

"Courts order rape victim to financially compensate their rapist" Sounds like something out of the middle East.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 02:47 PM
7

I only see one photo. Can you translate?
/r/MensRights29/03/20 02:45 PM
1

It's important to properly label things.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:57 PM
1

Fair to say then that Feminists are misandrists?
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:57 PM
1

So all feminists are either part of the problem or misandrists?
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:56 PM
9

Something happens to men. Feminists: how can we make this about us? They can't conceive of not being the primary victims of everything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 01:25 PM
3

No penis no opinion. Be quiet and stop femsplaining.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/20 01:24 PM
3

Elsewhere in this thread a feminist was asked if it would be ok to criticize black culture using the same rhetoric and logic applied to men. He immediately started screaming racism. They know what they're doing.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:12 PM
2

Ironically feeling the need to rebrand TF to make it about how women are victims always would be an example of toxic Femininity.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:10 PM
2

So wait, calling out toxic blackness when you aren't black is racist? So women talking about toxic masculinity is what?
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:08 PM
3

And yet female feminists talk about how toxic men are all the time.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:08 PM
1

Imagine a feminist chastising someone for having toxic blackness.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:08 PM
0

It's not toxic masculinity. It's male disposability and objectification.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 01:07 PM
1

Let's note that he's spent the past day calling everyone incels and spreading the false wage gap conspiracy theory but he has never once been able to provide the example I requested. Not a single instance of feminists fighting for equality when it would only benefit men or remove female privilege.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 12:48 PM
1

Every legitimate study has found it's mostly due to hours worked and career choice.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 12:46 PM
1

Women work less than men in less demanding jobs.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 12:46 PM
1

"I'm being attacked.... Everyone but me is an incel!"
/r/MensRights29/03/20 12:45 PM
1

Have you purchased your "lol male tears" mug yet?
/r/MensRights29/03/20 12:45 PM
1

That seems to be what happened.
/r/MensRights29/03/20 12:44 PM
2

But you're presenting it as fact when it's not. Also could you provide examples of meaningful efforts by feminists to help men on any issue that only impacts men or to remove a female privilege?
/r/MensRights28/03/20 06:57 PM
1

That's about as likely to get him laid as catcalling or random dick pics.
/r/MensRights28/03/20 06:19 PM
3

Please calm down Cringe. That's a weak troll effort.
/r/MensRights28/03/20 06:18 PM
1

I agree with you, Feminism gets a bad rep thanks to all the feminists.
/r/MensRights28/03/20 06:18 PM
3

What did you think you'd accomplish with this?
/r/MensRights28/03/20 06:17 PM
3

Notice I said mods.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 04:40 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/fqgg8p/nebraska_judge_rules_false_allegations_are_a_form
/r/MensRights28/03/20 03:49 PM
2

So they're kinda engaging in demonizing male sexuality?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 12:29 PM
7

The thing with xyz is women have it worse and it's caused by toxic masculinity and Patriarchy and the solution is more feminism and being a good ally and once we've done our part to help women it'll trickle down on us. Now if you wouldn't mind letting me know what xyz equals? /Menslib mods.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 12:27 PM
9

Feminists and tradcons align perfectly about half the time. Both think women are victims to be protected and men are monsters to be controlled.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 12:26 PM
2

If we gave them what they wanted men would be reduced to 10% of the population and used as slave breeding stock and they'd still blame men for everything and be miserable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 12:25 PM
3

Women are so oppressed! To think she had to spend like a whole afternoon being annoyed by this. Stop this war on women! Decriminalize everything for women!
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:19 PM
5

They could reboot it with Amber Heard.
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:17 PM
10

I guess the legal system decided "girls will be girls".
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:16 PM
5

They're calling out toxic masculinity and male privilege as hard as they can. It's literally all they're intellectually prepared to do!
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:15 PM
2

It's simple: just don't discriminate against boys and you won't face lawsuits. I'd say don't discriminate against anyone but we all know they won't be discriminating against girls...
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:15 PM
4

No they say toxic femininity does exist. They reject it. As your link indicates they relabeled it.
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:13 PM
1

It's toxic femininity. Toxic feminism is like toxic toxins. Redundant.
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:13 PM
3

Yep pretty much
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:12 PM
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Holy shit. This and the ruling on false accusations.... Is today going to be a good day?
/r/MensRights28/03/20 12:11 PM
22

We don't get much positive news lately. Especially for men. So I was happy to see this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 12:11 PM
2

I don't hate UBI as an idea, but it has to be taken into account that it would be nigh impossible to wean the public off of it, should it be decided it was unworkable. I mean the same could be said with farm aid, corporate bailouts, military spending, etc. We always find money for that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 08:56 PM
1

Well we're already doing it with those checks. We could just do it again next month. And again. And see what happens
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 06:52 PM
1

Do you know what UBI is?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 02:14 PM
2

Except in my scenario old people wouldn't be dependent on the stock market for their retirement. So let it crash.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 02:11 PM
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We could just raise taxes on the rich and institute UBI. The fact that we won't even consider that but are floating letting millions of poor/elderly Americans die to enrich the 1% even more shows how fucked up this country is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 01:25 PM
4

And that's even with women having multiple options to nope out if they don't want a kid. So these women are murdering kids they wanted to have.
/r/MensRights27/03/20 01:22 PM
7

In fact most child abuse comes from the mother.
/r/MensRights27/03/20 01:22 PM
8

if feminism by definition is the advocacy for women’s rights on the grounds of equality, then i think any good bloke should be a feminist. In practice it ain't that.
/r/MensRights27/03/20 01:21 PM
8

Either self hating (typically they had absent or abusive father figures which is why they associate men with toxicity) or predatory (say the right words and get laid maybe).
/r/MensRights27/03/20 01:21 PM
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Even if it was only 2% the thought that 1/50 men in jail for rape did nothing wrong ought to appall you. The fact that society is ok with that shows how disposable men are seen..
/r/MensRights27/03/20 01:20 PM
5

Found the femcel!
/r/MensRights27/03/20 12:11 PM
3

If only the core of Feminism was about equality.
/r/MensRights27/03/20 12:11 PM
5

Ever notice how feminists only care about men's rights that.... they don't care about men's rights.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 12:59 AM
10

Women are always the victim. Doesn't matter the subject.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 12:58 AM
8

Well if women are the primary victims of wars then men are the primary victims of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/20 12:58 AM
1

Seems fair. Men get drafted and sent to die for the benefit of their country all the time.
/r/MensRights26/03/20 04:51 PM
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Feminists, care to explain this using toxic masculinity and Patriarchy?
/r/MensRights26/03/20 04:49 PM
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You know in the past we've drafted millions of men to go fight in wars because it was needed for us to win. We knew some would die, we didn't know which ones but it was guaranteed not all were coming home. And that was fine. Why not draft women as medical caregivers to fight this war? Sure some will die. But most won't. And there's evidence women aren't as affected as men.
/r/MensRights26/03/20 04:48 PM
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To everyone here saying they hope somebody dies: .... I hope you get bitten by a tarantula
/r/MensRights26/03/20 04:46 PM
2

Someone should have mansplained social distancing to them
/r/MensRights26/03/20 04:45 PM
6

Just think if MeToo had been around back then they.... would have sided with the wife and said it was self defense because he was being abusive.
/r/MensRights26/03/20 04:42 PM
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Maybe they heard that it mostly kills men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/20 12:35 PM
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Feminist outrage over using "toxic masculinity" to get men to mutilate themselves in 3... 2.... Never.
/r/MensRights25/03/20 11:39 AM
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Well for one we're figuring out the importance of trucking which is mostly male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/03/20 11:23 AM
3

The figures you linked?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/20 09:36 PM
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Is this a troll or mental illness?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/20 06:34 PM
3

Mathematically they are a slight majority.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/20 06:33 PM
2

Equality has never been their goal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/20 06:32 PM
2

It's something men do. And men are toxic.
/r/MensRights23/03/20 01:49 PM
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Part of male privilege.
/r/MensRights23/03/20 01:37 PM
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I'm not a British subject.
/r/MensRights23/03/20 01:37 PM
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You should cross post to feminist subs. Let them demonstrate their commitment to equality
/r/MensRights23/03/20 01:36 PM
3

I'd put certain old growth trees like the Californian redwoods in there with animals.
/r/MensRights23/03/20 01:35 PM
2

Good sportsmanship is an aspect of muh toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights23/03/20 01:34 PM
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Did you see how he got in her personal space then assaulted her forehead with his nose? When will this violence against women end!?!? Fucking toxic masculinity Patriarchal rape culture!
/r/MensRights23/03/20 01:33 PM
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That's like proposing moderate segregationists work with the black civil rights movement. No. Even if they aren't out there lynching blacks their goals are still at odds with equality. All feminism offers is the patriarchy conspiracy theory and a lot of rhetoric blaming men and monopolizing oppression for women.
/r/MensRights22/03/20 12:39 PM
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Well that's disgusting. Doing this is one of the worst aspects of toxic femininity.
/r/MensRights22/03/20 12:37 PM
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No such thing as a false accusation. Listen and believe. He's a survivor
/r/MensRights22/03/20 12:34 PM
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There are always extremists, They're the mainstream feminists. that still doesn't mean the entire movement has never done anything productive and good and we should just trash it all. Can you show me examples of large Feminist organizations pushing back against these "extremists" ?
/r/MensRights22/03/20 12:25 PM
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So if a man tells you his experience you'll always defer to him? Like how he isn't privileged and there's no patriarchy working for him and the reason he doesn't cry has nothing to do with toxic masculinity?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/20 07:00 PM
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Men are less likely to consider controlling or coercive behavior abuse and have less need to dominate the relationship.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/20 01:11 PM
3

Every day is women's day.
/r/MensRights21/03/20 01:04 PM
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That's nice and all but the facts are NOW, the largest feminist organization in the country, routinely and aggressively lobbies against shared custody.
/r/MensRights21/03/20 12:57 PM
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I need to feel like a victim? Yes. Look at your actions here. Men can't even have a cold without acting like babies about it Already been addressed and disproven. Fuck you She said, in tears.
/r/MensRights20/03/20 04:38 PM
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Well, I can understand the sentiment. Most men that speak against feminism here are anti women. This is in no way true. What happens is feminists like you equate feminism with all women and treat criticism of feminism as an attack on all women. They still hold strongly to 'man is the head of the house and leader of society here therefore women cannot be equal or God forbid above him. You're completely misrepresenting reality. I went on a date yesterday with a man, fifteen minutes into conversati…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/20 11:55 AM
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But yall are right, I should 'GTFO'. If you can't participate in good faith it would be better if you left yes. This sub is anti feminist Of course. It's pro equality. alot of threads extremely misogynistic No. That's just your toxic femininity flairing up. You need to feel like a victim
/r/MensRights20/03/20 11:52 AM
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You've proven my point.
/r/MensRights20/03/20 11:51 AM
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They asked this in menslib. The thread was immediately shut down. Men can be much much much worse than women. Never better.
/r/MensRights20/03/20 11:29 AM
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Apex fallacy. For every man who was King how many weren't? Have you ever considered your implicit biases and thought about why you do not see men who aren't at the top?
/r/MensRights20/03/20 11:11 AM
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Girls will be girls
/r/MensRights20/03/20 11:10 AM
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Feminists are totally fine with these impossible double standards. They don't want to fix traditional gender roles. They just want to use them for their own benefit.
/r/MensRights20/03/20 11:08 AM
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The thing with the man flu is women are twice as likely to take off time for sick leave. So when women are sick you hear about it. Men muscle through minor illnesses and don't mention it. So when a man says he's sick he's really sick. The man flu then is simply comparing the very worst illnesses a man gets to the average of all illnesses a woman gets.
/r/MensRights20/03/20 11:07 AM
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I'm surprised they didn't try to claim a woman actually invented hand washing and this guy stole it.
/r/MensRights20/03/20 11:05 AM
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'Overall men have it worse' Men are the rulers of the world and makers of war and rape, and you say you're worse off? Give over! 😂 So every feminist falls for the Apex fallacy. You realize throughout history way less than half of men were kings? Since you began with a major logical fallacy I'll assume the rest isn't worth reading.
/r/MensRights20/03/20 10:44 AM
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Uh huh.
/r/MensRights20/03/20 12:14 AM
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Oh okay. So female genitial mutilation Male genital mutilations. honour killings Even in those countries men are killed more. telling women to smile Lol. As opposed to being told to not be short or poor or bald. leering at schoolgirls Women look at men too. lapdances and stripclubs, Also exist for women. And there's nothing wrong with it. paying us less for the same job Fabrication. making abortion illegal You mean you might be forced in to parenthood against your will? Welcome to male privilege…
/r/MensRights20/03/20 12:13 AM
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It is relevant. You claim you wouldn't blame men. Then you post to a sub that's entirely about blaming men. If someone said they weren't racist then it turned out they were extremely active and upvoted in racist subs would that be relevant? Notice you didn't claim anything about here specifically. You said you wouldn't ever hold a certain belief. So your behavior outside this thread is absolutely relevant. Learn how to think.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 07:45 PM
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I think they're probably misogynistic. But they should properly be attributed to toxic femininity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/20 07:37 PM
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Long term? Probably not much. This stuff is mostly about the egos of those involved. Not many people go in to science expecting any great recognition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/20 07:36 PM
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Not really
/r/MensRights19/03/20 07:34 PM
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Ros did some of the preliminary work taking pictures of the DNA molecule. This was crucial to figuring out the structure. But she didn't herself figure it out. Watson and Crick took that plus all the other data they had collected, got drunk, and over a weekend put all the pieces together to figure it out. They probably should have given her more credit. But they were the ones to figure it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/20 06:41 PM
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I am certain it happened. I think currently we're over correcting by attributing everything to some uncredited woman. Like "Roz Franklin discovered DNA and Watson and Crick stole it! " No. She didn't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/20 05:54 PM
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You post to pinkpill so yeah...
/r/MensRights19/03/20 04:29 PM
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Of course. I'm not like you.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 04:17 PM
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I'm not the one blaming him for making her cry by.... not accepting her premise that he's wrong about everything and she's right.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 03:35 PM
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Who knows. He probably would have hit her, instead Which would have been her fault for disagreeing with him. She cried because he was being unsympathetic to her personal trauma. No matter how many times you repeat this it still won't be true.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 03:02 PM
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Correct and your entire point is that she's the victim.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 03:02 PM
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Not at all. Look up the definition.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 02:31 PM
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White supremacist..? I'm confused ':) It's an analogy. There's likely no single statement from a particular white supremacist that convinced you they're the bad guys. It's just self evident. I'm sorry. But if you look into the history of what feminism has done, it's done some pretty bad things. Yep. Duluth model, VAWA, lobbying against shared custody, shutting down men's shelters, tender years etc. That's why we don't like them.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 02:30 PM
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She was being dismissive. So he should have cried to shut her up. Right? That's not why she started to cry. It's literally in his OP.....At this point she began to cry due to me having hurt her feelings about not seeing her side of things and not being sympathetic enough to her personal trauma Except she brought that up to dismiss him. If you go "I was raped so your point is invalid" it isn't being mean to reply with " no that doesn't invalidate my unrelated point". Your argument is that women s…
/r/MensRights19/03/20 02:29 PM
1

Feminists... Which exact white supremacist convinced you that was a bad ideology?
/r/MensRights19/03/20 01:41 PM
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Yeah, that's Feminism. If women had agency the Patriarchy conspiracy would be revealed a fraud and everything is based on that. Granting women agency would be like the pope admitting there was never any original sin and Jesus was just a nice man who was unjustly murdered for no good reason.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 01:20 PM
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There's a reason feminists absolutely refuse to call toxic masculinity anything else and absolutely refuse to use toxic Femininity at all. They feign ignorance "I don't know why people think toxic masculinity means men are toxic" but they know exactly what they're doing.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 01:20 PM
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The words. I said. That shattered your fragile and toxic feminine ego.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 01:15 PM
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I don't think there's any politician in the US who qualifies. I just vote for whoever will do the most overall good.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 01:01 PM
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At least they didn't make it about toilets instead.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 01:00 PM
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It's a religion. Religions don't ask what they did wrong so that people left the church and made their own. They condemn those people as heretics and blasphemers and try to silence them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/20 12:54 PM
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I think you're reading this in the wrong framing. The article is not saying "MRAs in general" or "All MRAs act like this", but rather "Certain claims have been made by MRAs (which I believe, I've read them), here's why those claims are wrong". Funny, if you make any criticism of feminism these same people will "not all/no true".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/20 12:53 PM
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So does this count as toxic masculinity or internalized misogyny or.... How are men to blame for their own lack of options? Someone femsplain it to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/20 12:51 PM
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gAsLiGhTiNg Are you ignorant of the term? Shut up nerd, Oh good lord. That was cringey back in the 90s. you have no argument. It's just a strawman. I'll give you a retort when you stop using weird ass definitions of words. I do. I've already presented it. That's why you're acting out like this. You're angry that I'm right and you can't rebut anything I've said.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:47 PM
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Nope, just that out of all of the issues you could bring up, OP chose to bring up ones literally caused by men. Yes literally everything is men's fault. Men choose to have society that requires certain things of them. Whereas women have that forced on them. Because men create society, women just tag along. Right?
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:42 PM
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You are truly the King of Strawmanning. Strawpersyn. Please. And you're doing what the wife did. You're trying to become a victim and gaslight me because you have no retort.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:40 PM
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The patriarchy as feminists use it to mean a vast conspiracy by men to privilege all men over all women using a wide array of tactics like manspreading and sexist AC has never existed anywhere other than the fantasies of feminists.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:34 PM
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Thanks for femsplaining how men are to blame for everything.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:32 PM
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Or he could treat her like an adult and equal.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:32 PM
2

Do you mean the fragilemaleRedditor hate sub or another one?
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:32 PM
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It sounds like being uniquely oppressed by men is central to her identity to the point she's in denial of reality and views you as an aggressor for pointing out it's nonsense. Toxic fragile femininity.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:30 PM
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Three comments? Man, my comment really got to you. Lol. No. You don't think the patriarchy exists? Clearly. Anywhere? What about Saudi Arabia? Let me guess, you think the world is a matriarchy. No. No one thinks men never have any problems Read the post you're brigading. The whole thing is him saying men have problems and her saying no. Only women do. You guys don't do well outside the jerk.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:27 PM
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Bingo. If you suggest female leadership as the solution to all problems then it's fair to point things like this out.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:25 PM
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It would be interesting to see how the argument for abortion shifts. Right now they're saying my body my choice and they use that as a way to deny men any reproductive Rights. If instead the fertilized egg could be removed and put in an artificial womb (respecting her bodily autonomy) then presented to her with a bill in a few months the rhetoric will have to change to the more honest "we don't want to get stuck with kids". Which would be much harder to deny for men too without just being open a…
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:24 PM
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Fun loving! Bullying is fun and she loves to do it!
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:19 PM
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Toxic femininity. She doesn't see a man and a person with something to offer. She sees an object that provides money and in this case the object is performing badly in her estimate so she shames it. This is no different than posting upskirt pics of women and calling them whores for it. Good on everyone else for calling her out.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:19 PM
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I listened to them.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:16 PM
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Wow. Every part of that is totally wrong.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:15 PM
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Lol at 5th_Law_of_Robotics. This guy's main argument against showing women empathy In this case showing women empathy means letting her gaslight you in to thinking men never have any problems. has been "OK white knight" for seven straight years on this site. He literally can't comprehend the idea of being empathetic to women unless he's trying to fuck them. Again the story is him asking for empathy and her saying no, only women get empathy. See how they lie so brazenly? It's like they're used to…
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:14 PM
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When you're accustomed to deference disagreement feels like an attack.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:05 PM
3

According to most people an adult crying because they were found to be wrong about something that doesn't even impact them is weak.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:05 PM
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If you cry because you are losing an argument and you're too fragile to admit you were wrong yeah that is kinda pathetic. Just because crying can be good in some scenarios doesn't mean it's always good.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:03 PM
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Yeah that's part of toxic femininity. But there was no need for crying here. She was being rather classless in dismissing men's issues. He addressed it well. She realized it wasn't going well so hence the tears.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:02 PM
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Yet you insist she must be the victim here.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:01 PM
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The one she had to invent to make him the monster and her the victim.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:00 PM
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If anyone's wondering where all the loonies are coming from this thread was linked in the FMR hate sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/circlebroke2/comments/fkzjjq/mra_gets_into_a_debate_with_his_wifewho_is_a
/r/MensRights19/03/20 11:55 AM
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Pretty much all they offer men is screaming at them that they're toxic. That's it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/20 03:28 AM
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Oh hey CB2 is brigading.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 03:22 AM
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Feminism could be a tool to untangle some of that mess for sure By opposing shared custody, supporting the duluth model and fighting to expand the sentencing and education gap. Thank you so much! Please, feel free to stop.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 03:12 AM
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I'm saying men cause most of men's problems and then try to blame it on everyone else Thanks for the gaslighting and femsplaining!
/r/MensRights19/03/20 03:11 AM
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It's not empathy.
/r/MensRights19/03/20 03:10 AM
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Let me guess, every problem men face is muh Patriarchy and toxic masculinity and the solution is feminism?
/r/MensRights19/03/20 12:03 AM
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I'm assuming by your response that you've definitely done this to some guy
/r/MensRights18/03/20 11:54 PM
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Lol. Imagine actually believing this.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 11:52 PM
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Found the feminist.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 11:52 PM
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Woman: men never have any problems. Women always have it worse. Men have it great Man: well actually that's not entirely true... Woman (bawling): stop gaslighting me and denying my experiences!
/r/MensRights18/03/20 11:49 PM
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Well good the fragilemaleRedditor hate sub has weighed in.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 11:47 PM
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Where did he minimize it? She tried to minimize his concerns by saying everything she experienced was worse than anything he could.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 11:47 PM
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Still at it? She engaged in toxic femininity. Women aren't perfect. Accept it and move on.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 06:35 PM
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No it isn't and no you don't. It's sad that you need to act the way you do.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 06:34 PM
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You've created this whole fantasy world in your head to justify your white knighting. It's adorable.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 06:23 PM
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It's ok if you want to admit you were wrong.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 06:22 PM
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It's literally what we're discussing.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 05:15 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/MensRights18/03/20 05:15 PM
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You reject the idea that women could ever cry for any reason other than legitimate ones.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 05:07 PM
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So no it hasn't. Why keep trying?
/r/MensRights18/03/20 05:06 PM
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No just people who insist on always fighting to prove women are perfect
/r/MensRights18/03/20 04:58 PM
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She wasn't pushed in to anything. Stop white knighting
/r/MensRights18/03/20 04:45 PM
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Not at all.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 04:37 PM
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I'm being serious here, has white knighting ever gotten you laid?
/r/MensRights18/03/20 04:25 PM
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You're lying and inventing a story to make her the victim. Femininity isn't as fragile as white knights like you need to believe. Well, not all femininity.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 03:07 PM
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Dude, white knighting isn't going to get you laid. Women know that women are capable of fake tears.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 02:59 PM
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So you believe men can be conditioned to not cry but women absolutely under no circumstances can be conditioned to cry?
/r/MensRights18/03/20 02:21 PM
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She's experienced being ignored for being a man who was sexually assaulted simply because she was a man? Interesting.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 01:07 PM
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She didn't cry when he brought it up. That was later. And she brought up women being raped. Try again. I'm sure you'll figure out how she's a victim here. The woman always is.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 01:05 PM
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She cried because her husband bullied No. He disagreed. Just because she has fragile femininity doesn't mean he's a bully for having a different opinion. She disagreed with him and said men can't be victims. He didn't fake cry.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:47 PM
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A necessary conspiracy theory feminists invented to justify all their claims.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:34 PM
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But it being true does. How many times have you cried to win an argument? Do some introspection.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:34 PM
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Don't worry, we've already started to see the "men killed more, women most impacted by coronavirus" articles. So that should be a relief to guys like this.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:26 PM
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You realize men have been lynched by these harmless little pranks?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/20 11:52 AM
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You're participating in toxic Femininity.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 02:29 AM
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It’s because she has experienced these things herself She's experienced being a man? Interesting... /Note he never denied women have problems. He said men also do which upset her.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:52 AM
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Have you ever met a woman? Ok then. Also go with "omg your post history, who hurt you, found the incel, oof that's a lot to unpack" Since you're committed to being a meme. Crying because someone disagreed with you that men don't have feelings or problems is toxic femininity. That's not healthy.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:39 AM
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Did she sprout a penis? Otherwise no. They'll still back her.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:36 AM
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Ok that's always been their right.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:36 AM
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iT wAs MuTuAl!!!!!
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:33 AM
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Probably due to being horribly abused by Johnny! /The lengths people will go to defend female abusers...
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:31 AM
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And you're part of the problem. Women are trained by the matriarchy to use tears this way. Many don't even recognize they're doing it.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:30 AM
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Crying because someone didn't agree with you about men having no problems isn't normal.
/r/MensRights18/03/20 12:16 AM
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I think everyone is better in society when inequality is reduced, so yes. Just like how society is better when social welfare is given to the people who can't exist as cogs in the industrial machine. But currently feminism adds to inequality. Shouldn't you have known that from feminists if the majority are in favor of helping men? I think that's part of the shortcomings of the current feminist narrative. They are so 'all-in' on the current narrative of every problem being laid at the feet of cis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 09:09 PM
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Yeah but if they told the truth their narrative would fall apart.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 02:23 PM
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A big part of the reason why I stay on this sub is a growing awareness of how pockets of feminism are NOT there to address inequality for men. Are you implying the bulk of feminism does address men's problems? With regard to MRM, I'm basically learning about it over the last year. I've become increasingly aware over the last few years that men had problems like loneliness, depression, suicide etc in greater quantity than women do, but speaking as an isolated emotionally stunted man :-) I'm strug…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 02:22 PM
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I dismiss any criticism of Paul Elam without a source after I tracked down the source of one quote of his the femosphere was complaining about and it said in big bold letters that this was satire making fun of a specific feminist action. Yeah. Bad faith must be assumed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 02:20 PM
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MRAs advocate male supremacy by opposing feminism the way MLK advocated black supremacy by opposing Jim Crow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 02:18 PM
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Feminists have been fighting to eliminate jail time for non violent women. I guess they're extending that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 02:17 PM
3

Falsely accusing without a target is harmless the way firing a gun without aiming is harmless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/20 01:38 PM
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Every one who has discussed their childhood reported being raised by a single mom with absent or abusive male figures. Their teachers were women. Because they had no confidence and never learned how to act properly they tended to get bullied by boys or at least were never comfortable with them. So they associate feminine with kind and caring and masculine with toxic and cruel.
/r/MensRights16/03/20 02:00 PM
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So they made the Nazi character a feminist? Yeah that works.
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:23 PM
5

"girls will be girls"
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:19 PM
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The article points out men can't be raped at all in the UK by a woman. So even if she uses force it's still not rape.
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:18 PM
1

This would have been more helpful a couple years ago...
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:09 PM
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At this point she began to cry due to me having hurt her feelings about not seeing her side of things and not being sympathetic enough to her personal trauma, and went with a small monologue about the various injustices done to her and her family. Toxic femininity. Using tears to bully. Why do women think this will work? At this point I bowed out because I didn't want to cause further strife, after offering apologies for upsetting her That's why....
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:09 PM
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The constant rebranding of feminism reminds me of the way mining companies operate: strip mine and create a massive environmental problem then transfer all the money and assets to a new company and let the citizens go after the shell company for damages. Repeat.
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:07 PM
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They would get destroyed by the men's team.
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:05 PM
35

And women will be charged with rape if they "forget" their birth control? If so I'm fine with this. Otherwise it's bullshit.
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:01 PM
1

I wouldn't be surprised to find she had raped at least one man
/r/MensRights15/03/20 02:00 PM
14

The empathy gap. Honestly that's the common thread behind most of these problems. Women never had to convince society it was a bad thing they were suffering. They just had to make people aware and it was taken for granted that that should change. MRAs have to contend with "so?" as the consensus response to most problems men face.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/20 01:20 PM
4

They believe in the patriarchy conspiracy theory so men don't face consequences for anything. They choose freely to act a certain way and if they wanted they could simply not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/20 02:52 PM
6

Yep. What they're doing is like telling women in rural Pakistan to just get over their toxic feminity and tell the authorities without shame that you were raped and don't worry about the fact that you'll be stoned to death.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/20 02:51 PM
11

Men dying is an inconvenience to women. When will this war on women end?!?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/20 02:49 PM
6

No the quoted text which wasn't mine. Although my stuff is objectively brilliant too.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 04:32 PM
6

If we define rape as something men do to women we'll find the stats retroactively justify excluding any other scenario since it literally never happens. Likewise if we define cancer as something that never happens and never screen for it the rate will drop to zero and prove we were right to not waste time looking for this non-existent problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/20 02:02 PM
7

Practically zero white men were lynched in the old South by racist mobs for whistling at black women. So this begs the question: why are black men do rapey and white men so perfect?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/20 02:01 PM
4

I like that the title starts with a blatant lie. They don't want to be treated more fairly. They're explicitly demanding less fair treatment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/20 02:00 PM
2

Well when school and the justice system and society in general (based on suicide stats) don't work for men the answer is "that's toxic masculinity, fix yourself". And that clearly worked. So just tell women to ditch their toxic Femininity. There. I solved it.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:45 PM
1

She's just trying to avoid the inevitable backlash and death threats from Feminists. "I'm a victim but I'm not defending a man"
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:43 PM
2

Now that it's a female victim maybe MeToo can come out against Amber.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:43 PM
6

Many women and all feminists are guilty of femsplaining men's issues at men. They refuse to actually listen as their twisted ideology tells them men have nothing of value to say and female oppression makes them an expert on everything. That's why so many feminists have a revelation when they have a boy and see what he goes through. Suddenly it's different, it's someone she cares about and she's seeing it with her own eyes rather than having some idiot man lie to her because Patriarchy.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:41 PM
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At least she's letting men know not to bother.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:37 PM
2

"What a shame. All those men died before checking their privilege or apologizing for their toxic masculinity. When will this war on women end?!?? " -average feminist
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:33 PM
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Men as victims of their own toxic masculinity (which is misleading as it implies there's some other kind) causing them to be perps that hurt women so really this is all double secret misogyny and we should focus on helping women. I missed what the topic was but that's the answer regardless.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:32 PM
10

You can't discuss Duluth. It's forbidden to refer to circumcision as genital mutilation for men but mandatory for women. Discussing reproductive Rights gets an immediate ban.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:31 PM
3

Brilliant
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:30 PM
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We believe society and the law can be fixed. They want to fix men to be defective women: still shitty but less so.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:30 PM
7

Lol yeah. It's an utterly worthless sub. It's feminism for men the way Kapos were Nazi personnel for Jews. Keep the rest in line and report any problematic elements and you'll get slightly better treatment but you're still never one of us.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:29 PM
7

Toxic. Femininity.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:23 PM
27

She wants to be chosen for her gender while being reassured it was for merit.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:22 PM
6

"Sometimes there are invisible barriers to entry for women". Well in this case it would be the women who applied weren't as good.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 01:21 PM
10

Annnnnnnnnnd this appears to be your only post here recently. We'll survive.
/r/MensRights13/03/20 03:04 AM
4

3.1: be aware that no matter how carefully crafted your response they will still reject anything that contradicts their religion, call you a misogynist, and end the conversation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/20 12:04 PM
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Let's see a source. I'm not going to Imagine my shock.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 06:18 PM
6

Not sure why you're jumping to ISIS when we're talking about Mexico. An example of how governments cover up male victims. I'm not victim blaming, I'm stating a fact. Majority of the men in Mexico are involved in drug cartels and gangs. The majority of all men in Mexico were with the cartels. Let's see a source.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 03:51 PM
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I never said to ignore it. I was explaining why the feminists were rioting. Do you understand that if the situation were suddenly reversed and men were more likely to be killed by their spouses but far less likely to die overall men would celebrate? And of course in that scenario feminists would be absolutely despondant. Yes, you want to know why so many men are being murdered in Mexico? Some are innocent bystanders. But many of them are in gangs and drug cartels and actively participate in viol…
/r/MensRights11/03/20 02:42 PM
4

You do know there's a lot of gang and drug violence and things of that nature and majority of the perpetrators are also male? The majority of victims are Mexican but so are most perps so let's ignore it. Yes, every murder is terrible, but But you just explained why the 8 fold larger number of men being killed matters less.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 02:30 PM
2

Yeah but the person you're responding to doesn't think men are people so that's like "8 gnats are killed for every one person"
/r/MensRights11/03/20 02:28 PM
2

Look what the patriarchy made them do!
/r/MensRights11/03/20 02:27 PM
13

It pairs up well with a post from yesterday on trollx (essentially the same sub) complaining about bad sex for women being entirely men's fault.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 02:26 PM
20

When will this war on women end?
/r/MensRights11/03/20 02:25 PM
0

It does seem to be a requirement for being a feminist though.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 02:24 PM
3

Funny how men never "accidentally" accuse someone of rape. Or do it jokingly. Or for attention. Or to get out of trouble. Or just out of sheer boredom. Maybe women need some toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 02:23 PM
6

Women who think women are better than men and men who agree
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/20 01:31 PM
1

Even before clicking I knew it was Delta.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/20 01:30 PM
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It's pretty obvious: in school the curriculum and staff are all biased in girls favor. Outside of school employers don't care about gurl power. They just want to make money. So people who are used to being given an advantage suddenly aren't and are forced to compete fairly with people who always had to work harder to get to the same spot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/20 01:30 PM
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Clearly this is because men are privileged and masculinity is toxic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/03/20 01:28 PM
7

Gee, I wonder how men are getting the impression psychology is biased against them. Must be toxic masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/20 12:35 PM
1

So men take more risks. This explains why there are more successful and more unsuccessful men. Women prefer the safer option so there are more women in the middle.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/20 12:34 PM
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Men and women are different, this proves gurl power and boys are stupid and gross.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/20 12:33 PM
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Humans are a sexually dimorphic species. Even most feminists are willing to admit men are physically stronger than women. It would seem odd that men and women evolved to fill roles but that only translates to physical differences, never anything else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/20 12:32 PM
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Femininity, so toxic and fragile.
/r/MensRights07/03/20 11:53 AM
1

Because feminism is totally about equality for everyone!
/r/MensRights07/03/20 11:49 AM
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They're saying men don't matter. Feminism is the radical notion that women are people and men aren't.
/r/MensRights07/03/20 11:48 AM
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"You cannot reason someone out of something he or she was not reasoned into." The wage gap has always been about feelings. Never facts.
/r/MensRights07/03/20 11:45 AM
6

It's true. No one with a penis ever ran and lost.
/r/MensRights07/03/20 11:43 AM
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Masculinity is so toxic. What if instead he had cried? But you know, not in front of a woman since that's unpaid emotional labor which is a form of abuse.
/r/MensRights07/03/20 11:38 AM
2

It was intentional
/r/MensRights07/03/20 03:17 AM
11

Clearly because they have the most toxic masculinity.... Or something
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:46 PM
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I was permanently banned from there for pointing out this double standard. So I think we know where they stand.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 05:36 PM
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Every single feminist who complains about men's rights does that thing where they pretend criticism of feminism is an attack on all women. This one got it out of the way in the first paragraph.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 01:41 PM
3

You read the first sentence right?
/r/MensRights06/03/20 01:40 PM
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I know some of you are alienating feminists, and, to be fair, there are many crazier feminists that are not for equality, but you all need to understand this. Most women just want things to be equal. And in your first paragraph you equate feminists with all women. Classic.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 01:39 PM
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Men should open up. Ugh not like that. Open up about being strong and never needing any help or ever feeling sad or weak because that's a major turn off. /Her shirt is just "man up" with more words.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 01:38 PM
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According to the Duluth model women cannot abuse men. They can only defend themselves from patriarchal aggression. This is how feminism helps men. If that appeals to you I'd recommend r/menslib.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 01:36 PM
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Just think, if feminists ever considered listening to men rather than femlecturing them this would already be common knowledge in those circles.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 01:35 PM
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We know a lot can't. That's why women view the internet as so hostile to them and demand safe spaces: when it's anonymous they get treated no better than men and they hate it. Unless they say "but I'm a woman you have to be nice to me" in which case they're mocked the same way a man would be for saying "I'm delicate, you have to tip toe around me!"
/r/MensRights06/03/20 01:33 PM
4

But I thought 4/3 women were murdered by their male SO every day? Won't they be less safe at home?
/r/MensRights06/03/20 01:32 PM
6

An early example of documented toxic Femininity enabled by the state.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/20 01:10 PM
6

Women are 54% of the voting population. If they wanted women presidents we would have nothing but women presidents from now on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/20 01:09 PM
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I really wish liberal SJWs would cut this shit out. With Hillary it was "finally a woman president to put those men in their place, this is the end of the white male! " And then everyone on the left was shocked when that didn't win over many white men or moderate white woman who didn't hate their husbands. Now they're doing it again. It's like going out of your way to appease evangelicals if they were 5% of the population and most people hated them. It isn't a winning strategy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/20 01:09 PM
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They need to tear down men and tell every woman their husband is fucking moron in order to sell women yogurt. Yes. Femininity is quite fragile.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/20 01:06 PM
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Oh right. Forgot he was banned for trolling. Well either way it's only fair to let him know I'm telling the truth about him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 11:27 PM
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Classic toxic and fragile femininity: take an area where women are clearly doing better and rather than admit their privilege or even simply ignore it they need to spin it as actually oppression of women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 06:20 PM
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Unfortunately a strategically placed ~third of the voters in this country will literally vote to hurt themselves if it will also hurt the other 2/3rds that aren't exactly like they are. "Sure universal healthcare will literally save my life. But what if it also helps a gay or n-......"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 05:16 PM
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Yeah it's pretty much "am I the male in this scenario"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 01:46 PM
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Feminists would argue that this is due to patriarchy and MISOGYNY and toxic masculinity because it treats women as lessers and is based on the cultural assumption that men are supposed to be violent and blah blah blah. At no point will they acknowledge this is a direct result of their activism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 01:45 PM
6

Why not both? And alimony reform and default shared custody. And guaranteed minimum income and...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 01:43 PM
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It makes sense when one partner is financially dependent on the other that they'll stick around. Maybe this is how we can get universal care? Tell the feminists that it's forcing women to stay with abusive toxic men and they can do their whole "war on women" shtick.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 01:42 PM
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When you have toxic femininity nothing is ever your fault. There's always a man, or boy, to blame.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 01:25 PM
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I agree, I hadn't heard of it until you mentioned it Funny how feminists have never heard of 99% of their history until called out on it by non feminists. And yet y'all scream "educate yourself" at us. and after reading a little, it seems like their arguments for opposing that specific joint custody have some kind of merit. Well sure. Men are evil. Women should be privileged. If they want the kid they should get it with compensation. If they don't they should be able to walk away without consequ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 01:13 PM
2

Just cash in one of you male privilege checks every month to cover child support.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 01:09 PM
2

Male disposablilty and objectification. Men don't have value on their own. They have to provide some value by what they do or they're discarded by society.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 01:07 PM
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They do yeah. When men are shitty of course that's toxic masculinity because men are doing it. When women are shitty of course that's toxic masculinity because obviously they picked it up from men.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 01:06 PM
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It's the feminist equivalent of a racist saying "I'm not racist, I just hate black culture". We all know what you mean. You can drop the routine.
/r/MensRights05/03/20 01:05 PM
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That's menslib. They'd never turn away a woman who was raped complaining about men or a group that didn't take her seriously. Edit: and I forgot to ping /u/Ciceros_Assassin. Every word I said was 100% true and he even corroborated it. But I don't care for talking behind people's back (he does that about me constantly and it's really scummy) so I'll offer him the chance of rebuttal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 12:59 PM
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Don't have a citation. But here he is admitting it (with his spin of course). https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/45jbdv/z/czyzfph
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 12:53 PM
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Don't have one. But here he is admitting it (with his spin of course). https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/45jbdv/z/czyzfph
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/03/20 12:53 PM
8

Yeah that seems accurate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 10:58 PM
18

We've never slandered your circle jerk. Every bit of it is true. Your head mod is a troll and misandrist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 09:18 PM
3

For screaming muhsogyny over this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 09:17 PM
2

You're coming across as ridiculous you know that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 08:20 PM
3

I'll have to check it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 08:19 PM
3

So your entire thing is that you're upset that they drew conclusions from a study that wasn't infinitely large.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 07:51 PM
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What an ass. If he actually cared about this stuff he would have participated here in good faith. Doing this makes it clear he just wants to shut down discussion on men's issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 05:51 PM
4

So you didn't actually link that. Kudos for finally saying what you're talking about. And that's still correct. It is a majority. Are you upset they didn't say "but not all women!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 05:18 PM
8

Could you link to that Warren Farrell experiment? That sounds interesting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 04:19 PM
4

Again, explain yourself. Which title? Because the article title looks fine to me. I get that you just want a reflexive: mensrights bad! But you need to actually discuss things here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 04:16 PM
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Wife sparks a lively debate on whether it's sexier for a man to 'provide or go 50/50' - and the majority of women argue it's 'unattractive' for husbands not to financially support them How is that misogyny?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 04:10 PM
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Yeah there's a reason a lot of us dislike that sub and it's not simply "ugh feminism bad".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 04:09 PM
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Pretty much that. In the early days of menslib this guy who was raped (I believe by another man) went to a feminist resource to get help and they openly laughed at him. He then turned to menslib to discuss this and they were fine with it (they'll tolerate stories with male victims so long as the villain is also male) until he mentioned the response here got from feminists. Cicero did the whole "this is a pro Feminist sub" and banned him and deleted all the discussions as is his nature.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 03:51 PM
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This is my concern. For these people ideology always comes first. Cicero, the creator of menslib and currently banned troll, permanently banned a guy who was raped because he reported that the feminists he went to for help weren't so kind. The instant there was a conflict between helping men and serving feminism he chose feminism without hesitation or regret.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 03:35 PM
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But not at all unexpected.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 03:33 PM
4

Why is that bad? Can we not talk about these facts?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 03:22 PM
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Well their very first link is about reeducation efforts for young boys to eliminate masculinity and make them better feminists. So we're off to a predictable start.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 01:52 PM
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This is true. Menslib itself is an attempt to co-opt the men's rights movement to serve feminists. Although in practice they're more competing with the incel subs for members.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 01:49 PM
3

How does that title reflect on the MRM at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 01:47 PM
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My critique with the article is that it relies on the common feminist fallacy that having a high-paying job and minimizing time with family is the one and only “good” way to live. Yep. Which, now that they're trying it women are reporting being less happy. Assuming historical male privilege makes women miserable. Funny. I'd say men on average earning more is a reflection of their limited options: men don't value for existing and staying home or working less than their spouse is usually not an op…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 01:46 PM
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The rabid anti male side is to the left as the evangelicals who claim evolution is a conspiracy to implement gay shariah is to the right. There are serious people on both sides focusing on economic and foreign policy issues. And then there's those fuckers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 01:44 PM
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Lol. As if it would be applied to women. She could rape a guy in front of a judge and a dozen cameras with a strapon while reciting her name and affirming under oath she is soberly choosing to have sex with him without his consent and nothing will happen.
/r/MensRights04/03/20 01:24 PM
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When you're used to privilege equality feels like oppression. When you're used to extreme privilege then merely a lot of privilege can feel like oppression.
/r/MensRights04/03/20 01:21 PM
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There's no evidence he was violent at all towards her. None. People didn't do this when it was her accusing him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/20 01:24 AM
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We do need to have a talk with women about toxic Femininity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 07:07 PM
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The absent man who had no say in this and who isn't raising the kid is clearly 100% to blame.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 07:06 PM
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It's empowering for women. But I dislike the rhetoric that comes along with it, which is basically "The Future is Female, Males are Redundant and cannot Survive without Our Help". That's speaking to their toxic and fragile femininity. They need to build themselves up by tearing men down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 06:48 PM
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Feminists are often inadvertently right. Never in the way they intend though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 03:26 PM
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Feminists are some of the worst perpetrators. They don't often use the term "man up". But they will use the same logic. Eg; agree with me or you have fragile masculinity and are an incel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 03:18 PM
12

Lol. Men don't get to have their experiences counted. That would be mansplaining.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 03:16 PM
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Women emotionally manipulating men to be more silent and unemotional because such men are more useful to them should be considered toxic femininity. Instead feminists blame the boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 02:18 PM
4

It's particularly pathetic since Cicero here whines that people here and in MR are wasting their time posting online when they should do real activism like him.... which consists of trolling men's spaces online.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 02:08 PM
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Still good to prove it. Otherwise it's just an anecdote.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 01:36 PM
2

Because you'll go to jail. Like whites could use black only water fountains if they wanted. But that shit wouldn't fly in reverse. Because privilege.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 01:32 PM
6

Should we talk about toxic femininity? They always bring up toxic masculinity when a man kills his wife.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 01:29 PM
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We've come so far from the bad old days of lynching black men for whistling near white women. Now we know we should lynch any man for whistling near any woman. So much more inclusive.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 01:28 PM
13

If he does go back he should demand some significant donation from Disney to local men's shelters for abused men. Make something positive come from this.
/r/MensRights03/03/20 01:26 PM
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It would appear that feminist policies which work to eliminate male role models from boys' lives are a big contributor to "toxic masculinity".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 01:14 PM
3

The other one, the penguin fella, seemed to be engaging in good faith. But Cicero is a misandrist troll through and through. He makes that clear. The community of menslib is occasionally decent. But the mods definitely shut down anything that isn't "men toxic, women oppressed, Feminism is the true path".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 01:04 PM
1

No you're here to troll. You've made that obvious.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 01:00 PM
1

Likely yes. Or like when someone tried to have a thread about positive things relating to masculinity and everyone screamed misogyny since that implied women weren't also amazing in those ways.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 12:59 PM
1

Bingo. It's only popular with people who don't want to see any improvement for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 10:19 PM
1

Then we should link to the one for the sub that isn't anti male. Why give the feminists at menslib more traffic to prey on men who actually need help?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 10:11 PM
1

I don't see why anyone would read your main page then think to look further for something actually useful. It's all just "masculinity toxic!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 10:08 PM
1

You really can't alternate between "I'm have good serious discussions" and "I'm hear trolling in bad faith". People don't buy it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 10:01 PM
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I don't think anyone thought you were. You're a feminist. Of course you don't care for men's avocates.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 09:50 PM
1

Why do you even need a list? All problems come back to toxic masculinity. Just scream "toxic masculinity" at any man with a problem and that problem is solved.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 09:49 PM
1

So that's a yes on the trolling?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 09:47 PM
1

Are you just trolling this sub or do you actually want to learn?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 09:35 PM
3

This is a perfect example of the kind of snide superior bullshit that makes men's lib contributions to this subreddit less welcome than a turd in a wine bottle. Lol. That's about perfect as far as analogies go.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 02:04 PM
3

Funny how feminists love people who throw men under the bus to benefit Feminism. Like I'm sure the Klan wouldn't have bothered Uncle Ruckus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 02:03 PM
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Teaching is one of the few areas where gender actually matters. It's proven beyond any doubt that having mostly female teachers harms boys and benefits girls due to innate bias. So naturally feminists oppose correcting this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 01:58 PM
1

I've never looked at their list, honestly. Naturally. I can say about ours that none of the resources we have listed are really ideological, they're just the best extant resources for men in various positions of need we've found over several years of maintaining the Guide. You banned a guy for being upset over being raped because it made feminism look bad. Your list is definitely ideological. Let me guess, everything can be cured by addressing toxic masculinity?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 01:54 PM
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I don't grant the premise Well it's a fact so it doesn't matter what you grant. Trollx, SRS, against men's rights, gender critical, etc have all recommended your sub. But anyway you proved me right so yay.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 01:25 PM
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Crowd source it. We have a good community here. Have people go through their links and repost and that have merit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/03/20 01:24 PM
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If they ever used that on a woman the practice would be outlawed immediately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 05:39 PM
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I've asked you lot before and either get silence or snark so my expectations are low but: why do you think menslib is the only recommended men's sub by communities that openly hate men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:57 PM
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Yep. Menslib is entirely a feminist sub. They put that ideology before helping men and they will remove anyone who feels otherwise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:54 PM
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Gift in German means poison. So his quote works.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:53 PM
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Given that they lie and delete any criticism I'm skeptical of any sources they provide. We'd have to go through and vet each one since they clearly don't do any fact checking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:53 PM
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But we should agree on some basic fundamental issues. And we don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:52 PM
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But we don't hate men or view every problem men face as double secret misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:51 PM
1

Or they could consider working hard and earning their own money.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:50 PM
1

Or just feminists in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:50 PM
2

Well yeah. It's a feminist sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/20 01:50 PM
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Listen and believe women. Men need to be told what they feel.
/r/MensRights01/03/20 01:27 PM
2

Yeah seriously. This is classic "reporting on my misdeeds is the real crime here" deflection. Show me anyone supporting a man grooming a 15 year old. If they met when he was 24 and she was 48 go for it. But the fact that she was an adult in a position of authority over a child she ended up fucking.... That's messed up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/20 01:11 PM
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That you want to end all discussions in DV against men and focus on women instead.
/r/MensRights27/02/20 01:51 AM
2

No, I'm not. I'm just asking how the oft-stated thing about women being the "majority" of DV perps has any meaning when it's the majority of women who get killed. Literally moving the goalposts.
/r/MensRights26/02/20 11:27 PM
2

So now you're moving the goalposts.
/r/MensRights26/02/20 09:30 PM
2

https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/In_Brief_Domestic_violence_Not_always_one_sided
/r/MensRights26/02/20 07:29 PM
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No actually it's the minority.
/r/MensRights26/02/20 07:02 PM
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Because it's a feminist propaganda piece and feminism blames men for everything.
/r/MensRights26/02/20 12:27 PM
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I took a quick scroll of your reddit and it appears to me that you kinda have a bit of a disdain against women or anything social justice for women. Am I wrong Yep
/r/MensRights26/02/20 12:34 AM
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She didn't though. That's part of the feminist misinformation campaign against her.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 10:43 PM
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I don't think it is. I think we're just hearing about it more.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 10:43 PM
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I'd say real men do whatever the fuck the want and ignore the tradcons and radfems trying to manipulate them in to acting a certain way.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 10:42 PM
5

Sounds like the old "I got my std from a public restroom" argument.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 10:41 PM
5

Bad men's anatomy.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 10:40 PM
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It's a complaint when women do it. If they're rich they have to pay a pittance. If they're poor then they have to do nothing at all. When men do it it's rape and they go to jail and have to register as a sex offender. Feminists don't want equality.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 10:39 PM
1

What's graigslist?
/r/MensRights25/02/20 01:28 PM
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I don't know what maternal surrender is as English isn't my main A law that says any woman who just doesn't feel like having kids anymore can ditch them at a fire or police station, hospital, etc walk away without anything else and its perfectly legal. All her obligations are over. but, yes to everything else. Everything I said for men counts for women. Well if we propose treating women as strict equals on this they scream bloody fucking murder and say how this will ruin their lives and is a war…
/r/MensRights25/02/20 01:26 PM
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The jury heard she had provided a prepared statement, saying: 'I deny any sexual contact with the complainant. 'He has always had a crush on me and would always make inappropriate remarks and do inappropriate things such as grab me and annoy me. We did not have sexual contact.' Despite DNA evidence to the contrary, she insisted: 'The complainant is not the father of my child.' What a scumbag. No accountability. Immediately transfer blame to the victim. If the genders were reversed and the adult …
/r/MensRights25/02/20 01:09 PM
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Instead of telling men how not to be the victim of reproductive coercion maybe teach women not to do it in the first place? This is like saying men don't always rape maliciously, sometimes there's just a miscommunication so be sure not to play games or dress provocatively.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 01:02 PM
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Wouldn't want it to be inconvenient. Why should her entire life be derailed for a bad decision and a little fun?
/r/MensRights25/02/20 12:59 PM
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Close the sentencing gap!
/r/MensRights25/02/20 12:59 PM
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If she can't afford a kid then she shouldn't have sex. Ever.
/r/MensRights25/02/20 12:58 PM
6

So you favor removing safe Haven laws?
/r/MensRights25/02/20 12:57 PM
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The only way a woman is "forcing" you to become a parent is if she raped you, got pregnant and gave birth thus making you a father completely unwillingly. So if we banned abortion and morning after pills and maternal surrender would women only be forced in to parenthood if they were raped?
/r/MensRights25/02/20 12:57 PM
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I expect feminists to call out this body shaming in 3... 2.... never.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/20 02:14 PM
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This is "if she floats shes a witch if she drowns she's a heavy witch" logic.
/r/MensRights23/02/20 03:48 PM
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Toxic Femininity and male disposablilty: she'd rather fuck this guy's life up than admit she chose to do something she later regretted. If you're alwsys a victim you'll never have to be accountable.
/r/MensRights23/02/20 03:47 PM
2

Is there a non toxic side?
/r/MensRights23/02/20 02:15 PM
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Opposing a movement that is staunchly against equality and men in general is a key part of men's rights. Like the black civil rights movement often found itself at odds with segregationists.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 05:32 PM
9

Uh huh. So in fact you've never told Feminists to care about men and you just want to 'what about the women'.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 04:41 PM
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Why are all women like this? Must be toxic femininity. Dear all women, stop abusing men. Just stop it.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:46 PM
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We'll never know how many men are psychologically abused until they commit suicide. Which really ought to count as murder but isn't for obvious reasons.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:45 PM
5

Considering that men are still obligated to provide for their family by social pressure it's both. We've removed pretty much all the traditional burdens on women. But tradcons and feminists have aligned to keep things more or less the same for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/20 12:39 PM
1

Both Jews and Nazis claimed the other side was out to get them. Really only one was right.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:28 PM
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They hate men.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:27 PM
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All their arguments are just-so stories. Men need to be fixed because Patriarchy. This logic doesn't apply to any other group because they're oppressed. We know they're oppressed because Patriarchy.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:24 PM
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Dear all blacks, Stop killing whites. Just stop it.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:20 PM
2

So is he a man who would kill women?
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:19 PM
10

So basically just stop talking about anything else and focus solely on the minority of DV targeted at women. Can you link me to a thread where you implored feminists to focus on women who abuse men?
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:18 PM
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That right there is the truth behind "toxic masculinity". Men are objectified and seen as disposable. It's really blatant if you look for it. Feminists place all the blame on men and tell them essentially to man up. That isn't helping. We need to instead tell men that they matter and they don't owe society anything.
/r/MensRights22/02/20 12:16 PM
3

Being a good ally seems a lot like being a nice guy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 04:57 PM
5

In other words unpaid emotional labor...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 03:56 PM
2

Nothing. That's why I don't as a rule. This happened. Ask Cicero.
/r/MensRights21/02/20 03:30 PM
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They're saving you from your own shitty nature. Repent and you'll be.... well not saved. You're still an awful man. But maybe you can trade your dignity and happiness for the possibility of a feminist good boy point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 03:29 PM
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No that's totally true. You can ask them. They put their own spin on it of course but they'll agree with the basic facts
/r/MensRights21/02/20 02:30 PM
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Do you think they actually care how well boys do in school though? No. I would assume they hate males.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 01:17 PM
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Surely attacking men and masculinity will help boys do better in school...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 12:51 PM
4

Wait, actually? Yeah... Are you new to this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 12:50 PM
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When women kill their kids we ask why and try to find a way to blame him. It's quite common.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/20 12:22 PM
2

How do we stop women from killing their children?
/r/MensRights21/02/20 12:03 PM
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It is invariably the most recommended men's sub by every community that actively hates men. Funny.
/r/MensRights21/02/20 12:02 PM
1

Being anti white supremacists is being anti white!
/r/MensRights21/02/20 12:01 PM
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Being anti feminism is by definition being anti women. Oh you!
/r/MensRights21/02/20 12:01 PM
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Then why is it filled with hateful anti feminist garbage? It's fine to hate ideologies that are about supremacy and hate.
/r/MensRights21/02/20 12:01 PM
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They banned a guy who tried to talk about his rape ordeal because he was upset feminists laughed at him. They serve the interests of feminism. Not men.
/r/MensRights21/02/20 12:00 PM
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According to Duluth women can only be violent in self defense. So arrest that man immediately!
/r/MensRights21/02/20 11:59 AM
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Her emotional performance of “Praying” at the 2018 Grammy Awards marked a memorable moment as the ceremony gave voice to the #MeToo movement against sexual assault. If men are as terrible as claimed and rape really is this prevalent why does MeToo have to lean so heavily on false accusations to get their numbers up?
/r/MensRights21/02/20 11:56 AM
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Funny kind of Patriarchy we live in where women have such power over men.
/r/MensRights21/02/20 11:54 AM
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But she's a pretty white female feminist. She will never face consequences for anything.
/r/MensRights21/02/20 11:53 AM
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It's not uncommon for women to orgasm during rape. I guess that means they enjoyed it and it was just a relationship they had.
/r/MensRights21/02/20 11:52 AM
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I was being flippant. Not serious.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 02:24 PM
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Listening to the entire thing makes it clear she was abusing him and he wanted out. He was worried about having to use violence in defense but he never admitted to actually doing it. She cut off his finger. At some point he might actually raise a hand in self defense (which I'm guessing is something she was hoping for)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/20 12:52 PM
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They're really scrambling to save the narrative. They went silent initially hoping it would go away. When it didn't and it became obvious they'd have to say something they went with this story of mutual abuse. She's not an abuser, she's a victim who responded to violence with violence. Pathetic. Oh and this: However, in the same recording, Heard says that Depp cut off his own finger during an argument because he was “drunk and high on ecstasy.” Is gaslighting. She's just a total piece of shit. S…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/20 12:50 PM
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It would also be impossible to know how many men kill themselves following emotional manipulation and abuse. It wouldn't be counted as murder but they're just as dead as any woman strangled by a spouse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/20 12:44 PM
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When men kill themselves we're told toxic masculinity is to blame. Will we blame toxic femininity for her refusal to take responsibility for her actions and to take steps to make herself a victim?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/20 12:42 PM
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An actual Patriarchal conspiracy created in response to feminists attacking men based on their invented Patriarchal conspiracy. Kinda like how the Nazis did actually end up creating Jewish groups out to undermine them.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:28 PM
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"It's like he doesn't recognize this is a transactional relationship and I'm basically an expensive prostitute. He treated me like an equal and someone who just wanted to be with him the way he just wanted to be with me. Ugh this is Patriarchy! "
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:25 PM
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As if that would matter. "He threatened me off camera to say all that. The fact that he thought ahead to get evidence to prove he's not a rapist proves he's a rapist"
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:23 PM
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The rights they list for men are pretty much all bullshit. It's like the right to earn more for the same work. Not a right even if it were true and completely untrue...
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:22 PM
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Older women are cougars or owning their sexually or whatever and must not be shamed. Older men are abusive and manipulative and must be shamed. Women are Schrodinger's adult: they are both old enough to make their decisions and too immature to be held accountable for those decisions. Men are always adults even when they're children. With the exception of mocking them for enjoying hobbies women don't.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:20 PM
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I'm sure feminists will weigh in any second to attack her toxic femininity and reiterate that women aren't entitled to men's money just in exchange for having sex.... Right? Gender roles bad? Hello?
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:19 PM
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"Slander my ex for me because he has a really good DV case against be!" Courts: um, no. "Do it or I'll cry and scream misogyny! MeToo! "
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:14 PM
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It'll probably be more like: "Weinstein will escape justice just like Johnny Depp because the patriarchy let's powerful men abuse helpless women like me and get away with it. I stand with other women abused by Weinstein and Johnny Depp the abuser who hit me because I'm a survivor! MeToo! " And then she'll get another UN appointment.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:13 PM
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Toxic femininity. Rather than own up she's still casting about for ways to slander him and make herself the victim again.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:12 PM
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It's all the gurl power nonsense forced on everyone for decades. You have small women casually tossing men twice their size in movies. Eventually some girls start to believe it.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:11 PM
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When you're so used to privilege that being held accountable for once feels like a sexist conspiracy.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:09 PM
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I'm not a bad person. I just made one mistake and now I'm being slandered in the media. I'm going to lose my job. My family and friends are suffering. This is just so unfair! -Hitler
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:07 PM
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Yeah from the coverage you'd never know she was an abuser.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:06 PM
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I have always taken responsibility for what happened that night. Even on the night. But the truth is .... It was an accident. I've been having some sort of emotional breakdown for a very long time. But I am NOT a domestic abuser. We had an argument and an accident happened. An accident. So this looks suspiciously like not taking responsibility. It's like if Brock Turner said he always takes responsibility but he didn't rape that woman, he just accidentally slipped in and now it's so unfair his l…
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:03 PM
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Yikes he dodged a bullet. When women are that upfront with their toxic femininity just don't marry them. Don't do it.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 12:00 PM
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Finally something that can rival sexist air conditioning. Rich white Western women in 2020 are the most oppressed demographic ever.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 11:57 AM
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This notion that males like to take over some area and never let females in because "girls can't skate/code/game/etc". Guys just don't like having to change their hobbies to appeal to women who aren't really interested. If you're genuinely interested in skating and aren't trying to gurl power your way in to show up the men then cry when you can't you'll find most guys are totally supportive.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 11:54 AM
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You said men can't technically be raped by men by citing the law. Therefore in countries where it's not called rape when a man forces himself on a woman you shouldn't call it rape either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/20 08:29 PM
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Right, so we would classify it as rape but they wouldn't? You shouldn't if you're being consistent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/20 07:59 PM
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What if it isn't legally defined as rape there?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/20 07:51 PM
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They also don't want to do the same jobs, the same hours, and taking the same risks.
/r/MensRights17/02/20 01:59 PM
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It's pretty common for feminists to demand xyz special treatment assuming it'll only apply to them then acting shocked when it is occasionally applied to men too.
/r/MensRights17/02/20 01:54 PM
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This is not normal.
/r/MensRights17/02/20 01:53 PM
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If it ever becomes a thing I suspect the enforcement will be gendered though.
/r/MensRights17/02/20 01:53 PM
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So would you say in the middle East rape pretty much never occurs since legally that's just women being whores?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/20 01:38 PM
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Almost none of my interviewees saw these dating practices as a threat to their feminist credentials or to their desire for egalitarian marriages. Egalitarian? Yeah. But how is it a threat to feminism? Crying about equality while demanding men treat you as special princesses is kinda the whole point of feminism.
/r/MensRights17/02/20 12:36 PM
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Toxic femininity?
/r/MensRights16/02/20 02:32 PM
0

Men can't opt out. Women can.
/r/MensRights16/02/20 01:52 PM
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Instead she should propose a comparable bill. You know like saying men can be forced in to parenthood even if they don't want it, were lied to, or even raped. It doesn't matter they have no say and are still forced to pay for the kid they never wanted. Could men even imagine how awful that would be? Facing that penalty for the crime of having sex? Wait....
/r/MensRights16/02/20 01:51 PM
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Honestly she should be jailed for life. Zero tolerance! Lol
/r/MensRights16/02/20 01:46 PM
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Male privilege under the Patriarchy
/r/MensRights16/02/20 01:46 PM
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Women have so many spaces reserved for them. Why can't they tolerate any spaces for men? Is their femininity that fragile?
/r/MensRights16/02/20 01:45 PM
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Men just can't imagine what it would be like to live in a world where a sexual might result in them being a parent without any legal recourse and the law wouldn't care if he was tricked or coerced or even raped, he'd still have to... Wait.... That's just reality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/20 01:42 PM
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Whenever that woman breaks with Feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/20 01:41 PM
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Yeah a comparable bill would be one that states men can be forced to pay for a kid they never wanted an punishment for having sex. Even if they were raped. Even if she lied about using birth control. Even if it's not actually his kid. That would be more comparable to abortion restrictions. Except that's just the reality for men always so doing that would reveal just how privileged women are relative to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/20 01:40 PM
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Nah I'm saying both parties should be held responsible for conceiving a child. So both the party that has a say and the party that has no say?
/r/MensRights16/02/20 04:06 AM
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But you're saying men should be punished for having sex.
/r/MensRights16/02/20 03:59 AM
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It isnt a sin unless you're religious I thought that's what we're discussing..
/r/MensRights16/02/20 03:56 AM
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Cool. Personally I don't agree men should be forced in to parenthood for the sin of having sex.
/r/MensRights16/02/20 03:40 AM
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No it's a fetus. The pro life crowd never gets upset by fertility clinics flushing extra zygotes. So clearly they don't really believe their rhetoric.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 03:24 PM
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K. Don't care what you think.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 02:16 PM
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Is their femininity really that fragile that they're worried about being replaced so easily? Women have had vibrators for generations. I'm sure some men fretted these would cause mental problems and destroy society. They got over it. Feminists should get over this too.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 02:08 PM
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"having sex with" They don't have an issue putting the r word in the title here.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 02:02 PM
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So that should be considered equivalent to stealthing which is considered rape.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 02:02 PM
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Abort a fetus. And yes. Or for any reason at all.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 01:56 PM
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Almost like we should look for ongoing, enthusiastic, affirmative consent. Not simply assume a yes.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 01:56 PM
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So they compare tasks that they admit are different as if they were identical? And then they admit women do more non productive chatting and overall work but it's ok because because of the aforementioned logical error? Feminists, stay away from science.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 01:41 PM
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Confirmed troll https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeKarma4U/comments/f09eqc/or_just_enough_karma_to_keep_getting_into_stupid
/r/MensRights15/02/20 01:39 PM
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My femininity has been entirely shaped by the lesbians and gay men that raised me, Wow a whole coven of homosexual feminists raised you? Neat. and the neckbeards who to pay to look at my feet. Uh huh. It's anything but fragile You're all but screaming toxic fragile femininity. Or troll. I'm also undoubtedly more nontoxically (and toxcially, hence my desire to unlearn that) masculine than you. All masculinity is toxic because Patriarchy rape culture manspreading sexist air condition. You were whi…
/r/MensRights15/02/20 01:37 PM
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You're a trip. Say one factual thing.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 01:24 PM
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No I'm legit debating You're more rambling. We were talking about feminists being pissy over men's spaces and you tied that back to child rape. Is your femininity so fragile that you can't stand something not being entirely about you?
/r/MensRights15/02/20 01:20 PM
24

Wow. Are you doing a bit or is this for real?
/r/MensRights15/02/20 01:04 PM
19

Actually no it's what the other guy said. Nothing to do with magical period panties.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 12:55 PM
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And they point out women are getting different tasks. Linda, file these papers and send an email. Jim, completely restructure the way this company functions. Feminists: Linda completed twice as many tasks as Jim!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/20 12:38 PM
1

That it's the opposite of true? Accidental pregnancies are kinda a mutual thing unless one partner was lying to the other (which women do sightly more than men). And unwanted children are 100% women's fault.
/r/MensRights15/02/20 12:34 PM
9

Yeah it's kinda like hearing some kid was kidnapped a thousand miles away (such a shame, back to my life) and hearing your kid was kidnapped.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 12:56 PM
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Feminist theories aren't based on fact. They're based on getting the conclusion they want. In reality most of history has sucked for most people. The fact that Kings had a penis benefited the average male peasant exactly as much as the queen having a vagina benefited the average female peasant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/20 12:54 PM
4

Feminist science can be dismissed out of hand.
/r/MensRights14/02/20 11:57 AM
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Sounds like toxic and fragile masculinity and transphobia caused by patriarchy and furthermore.... Oh it's women suing? Well you see they're perfectly correct. Trans people are just men in dresses when they inconvenience women...
/r/MensRights14/02/20 11:54 AM
1

UN women people.
/r/MensRights14/02/20 11:52 AM
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Women initiate most divorces...
/r/MensRights14/02/20 11:47 AM
6

Toxic masculinity is allegedly gender roles for men that are harmful to men. Being expected to be the hero gets men killed. This is undeniably harmful. Feminists don't criticize it though because they like the idea of men dying in place of women.
/r/MensRights14/02/20 11:38 AM
5

Disgusting. He should have instead cried to express his emotions then checked his male privilege while being a good ally.
/r/MensRights14/02/20 11:37 AM
2

Posting to menslib.
/r/MensRights13/02/20 01:54 PM
4

We already have a raft load of 'feminists who just want to talk' And those are invariably: I'm here to lecture you because I know the right answer and you're wrong so listen up idiots. They're proselytizing to the heathens. Not discussing anything.
/r/MensRights13/02/20 01:54 PM
4

Yeah it's a catch 22. I've seen multiple attempts at this fail. Either it's an open forum in which case feminists would sooner cut their own arm off than participate when they can't dominate the discussion and remove any questions they can't answer. Or it's censored to their satisfaction in which case it's another feminist circle jerk and no one else can talk. A debate forum including one side that refuses to debate isn't going to work.
/r/MensRights13/02/20 01:53 PM
5

Privileged majority demands even harsher penalties against despised minority already openly discriminated against.
/r/MensRights13/02/20 01:51 PM
23

Yeah that's AITA. The man is always wrong
/r/MensRights13/02/20 01:48 PM
4

So never stop shaming her.
/r/MensRights13/02/20 01:45 PM
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They're covering the real scandal in Hollywood with regards to gender: a group of rich celebraties didn't get the honors they felt they deserved and they happened to be women so... After that's resolved and every other women's issue and assuming no other ones are invented in the meantime then we can talk about Johnny. How does 2942 work for you?
/r/MensRights13/02/20 01:44 PM
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Men are around: men are stealing all the best jobs and harassing women. This is an attack on women! Men are all gone: they're forcing us to do men's work and we can't find husbands. This is an attack on women!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/20 06:34 PM
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"To many people, Heard simply doesn’t fit their perception of an acceptable victim. " Uh yeah. And to many people an apple isn't an orange. She's not a victim. She's an abuser.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/20 04:39 PM
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Are there any posts condemning her and the support she still enjoys from feminists and MeToo?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/20 01:52 PM
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This case was mentioned offhand in a post recently and BreShark swooped in to lock it and chastise people for discussing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/20 01:51 PM
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They'll help men by blaming everything on toxic masculinity and then.... Nothing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/20 01:50 PM
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Understand that women have an advantage here with people generally being sympathetic to them. Men don't get this advantage. And on top of that they're fighting against an entrenched feminist status quo that denies men can be victims of anything.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/20 01:49 PM
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Askfeminists.... Lakequeen... I'm going to go with no. That's like asking if the speech the grand imperial cyclops whatever gave at the Klan rally was a fair depiction of black people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/20 01:46 PM
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Maybe she's just hiring good directors and they just so happen to be men and there isn't a vast Patriarchal conspiracy against women, it's just that not a lot of women are interested in this work and.... Wait.... Reboot.... Women are systematically denied director roles by the grande Patriarch of Hollywood. She's a hero for fighting against male domination and manspreading. Cancel Johnny Depp!
/r/MensRights12/02/20 01:41 PM
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Because all womyns are yasss Queens!
/r/MensRights12/02/20 01:39 PM
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You mean "when".
/r/MensRights12/02/20 01:38 PM
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It's not a witch hunt if there's concrete evidence she's guilty.
/r/MensRights12/02/20 01:37 PM
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Is this the recommended makeup by professional victim Amber Heard for faking bruises so you can continue abusing your husband and be praised for it?
/r/MensRights12/02/20 01:36 PM
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Male disposablilty in action.
/r/MensRights11/02/20 09:56 PM
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It's a feminist sub...
/r/MensRights11/02/20 09:55 PM
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Menslib is the favorite men's sub for people who hate men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/20 01:24 PM
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Trans men get a pass in non TERF feminist circles. Men are shitty. But of course trans men aren't shitty. Masculinity is toxic. But not when trans men do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/20 01:24 PM
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So playing mind games and not being direct makes men terrible? Women must be downright satanic in her book.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/20 01:22 PM
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For one thing, as a psychotherapist... I'm guessing she also calls "toxic masculinity" when men think the field is anti men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/20 01:21 PM
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What's bread tube?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 08:29 PM
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Why would you hate yourself for something you have no control over and that isn't bad in the first place?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 07:34 PM
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Isn't it more like joining an anti-LGBT church because you're secretly gay and hate yourself for it and hope they'll fix you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 07:21 PM
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How would menslib help with that? That's like joining Delta house fix your crippling alcoholism and keep your grades up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 03:27 PM
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It's more than some and they don't want to be what?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 03:07 PM
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Why do you think menslib appeals to men who hate men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 02:56 PM
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Which is why I asked for his thoughts. The other mods wouldn't reply and would most likely see this self hate as a positive thing. Penguin may actually respond in good faith and be concerned by this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 01:01 PM
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Various eyewitnesses and audio recordings are probably fake. Best believe her entirely unsubstantiated account. You can fake audio. But a woman couldn't just lie. I mean look at all the publicity and awards and honors and fame she's gotten as a result. Why would anyone lie for that?
/r/MensRights10/02/20 01:00 PM
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So no way to pretend it's just a leftover from before. This is now a deliberate lie.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 12:57 PM
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Who said that? Try this: if a white nationalist tried to claim blacks as a whole are extremely violent due to their toxic nature and general awfulness and they only were ever violent towards whites who never did anything to them (technically white people can't even commit a violent crime against black people) I'm sure he could find examples to back his case. He'd still be wrong.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 12:54 PM
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Scrap Feminism.
/r/MensRights10/02/20 12:53 PM
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/u/InitiatePenguin, you're a mod and regular poster there. Your input on this would be helpful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 12:43 PM
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And I would add unlike STEM where it really doesn't matter who does it as long as they're competent gender matters here. Boys know they're discriminated against by female teachers. Lack of good male role models leads to worse outcomes for boys, and so on. The one area where equal representation would really help is the one where it's entirely ignored.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 12:29 PM
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Crossposted from egalitarianism. This isn't healthy. If this self loathing is what feminism offers to men at a time when depression and drug abuse among men is already too high then it's clearly not the way to go. The mensrights sub isn't perfect but it doesn't lead to members hating themselves for existing. Menslib needs to get it's shit together or be removed as a hate sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/20 12:27 PM
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Are any of the various hypotheses of Patriarchy falsifiable? No.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/20 06:41 PM
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Which apparently means believing women can rape and lie about it.
/r/MensRights09/02/20 01:17 PM
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And menslib
/r/MensRights09/02/20 01:15 PM
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Because they don't want to admit they were wrong and women can be abusers, especially one of their heroes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 11:52 PM
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Feminist theories are formed based on ideology. The conclusion is the important part and it must always conclude that women are oppressed. Collecting data to back this is a second thought if it comes up at all
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 11:07 PM
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And that air conditioning is set low to oppress women. They never considered asking men why they sit with their legs wide (comfort) and why they set the ac lower (also comfort because men tend to run warmer and have more restrictive dress codes). Instead they created this vast conspiracy and femscreamed at men their reasons for doing what they do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 11:06 PM
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First it was; No means no. Then; Yes means yes. Now; Yes means no. At least the dworkinites were clear and consistent: all sex is rape.
/r/MensRights08/02/20 10:18 PM
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Probably toxic masculinity. That's behind like 101% of all the worlds problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:56 PM
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A great day for empowered women and a terrible day for women's empowerment! Something something toxic masculinity patriarchy rape culture gurl power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:48 PM
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“tell the world Johnny, tell them… I Johnny Depp, a man, I’m a victim too of domestic violence… and see how many people believe or side with you." -UN Human Rights Champion Amber Heard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:46 PM
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Followed up with posts about crushing loneliness and pondering why no guys want to be friends with me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:43 PM
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cried once in a while. Toxic masculinity! Men should be crying constantly. The toxins caused by masculinity are removed via the tear ducts. It's a femfact.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:43 PM
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Every feminist sub, menslib included, has been very quiet on this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:42 PM
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Well, not many. There are some of us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:41 PM
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Yep. Asia Argento and Kathy Griffin and the rest haven't faced any backlash. She'll be fine. Feminists are already spinning this as certainly a mutually abusive relationship and we shouldn't pry in to people's personal affairs so let's talk about the Weinstein case instead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:41 PM
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And as another user pointed out there was a post earlier this week. To clarify there was a post which barely mentioned this which caused BreShark to issue an official mod statement against discussing such things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:40 PM
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If menslib were a legitimate men's sub this would already be discussed and it wouldn't be controversial. She lied and abused him and used feminism to make herself the victim and further abuse Depp. This isn't up for debate. This is what happened. And we have far more proof than menslib would need to condemn a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:38 PM
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Why do you think domestic violence against men and MeToo being weaponized against men doesn't register as a legitimate men's issue?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:36 PM
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How can you say we're racist? We have a black! Wheel his cage out so they can see.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:35 PM
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Because that's a good way to siphon off men who actually care about this stuff and silence real men's issues. It should be noted that every openly misandrist sub recommends them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:34 PM
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"Guys we are not happy a legitimate men's issue snuck in to menslib when we were out painting our nails but it's got so popular that we'd look really bad if we nuked it now so let's just agree to stop talking and pretend this never happened. The feminists will not be pleased with this! "
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:33 PM
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How can we fix men? By getting them to be like women! Defective women who will never be perfect like real women. But still they'll be better than stupid gross men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:31 PM
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Why would they discuss it? They're a feminist sub that exists to promote women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:30 PM
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How would discussing that benefit feminism and women? That is their primary goal.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:25 PM
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The mods definitely. The users sometimes actually attempt real discussion. The mods shut that shit down immediately. Right /u/Ciceros_Assassin Like when that guy thought he could discuss being raped and you guys put him in his place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:25 PM
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I've found the only time bio-truths are used is to work against men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/20 01:22 PM
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Well if he wasn't before Mr Depp is now very aware that men can be victims too thanks to the hands on antibiotics of Amber Heard.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 11:35 PM
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On domestic violence they demonstrably aided societal norms with the duluth model.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 11:32 PM
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A man would be on a permanent sex offender list.
/r/MensRights06/02/20 11:30 PM
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She's kinda right...
/r/MensRights06/02/20 11:29 PM
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Lol. Sounds about right
/r/MensRights06/02/20 12:46 PM
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So far I've seen them either going silent or trying to claim it was mutually abusive and she was mostly defending herself. They went all in on this and can't really extricate themselves now.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/20 12:44 PM
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Feminists and MeToo are, for a brief window, silent because the really can't defend their champion here without sounding insane. So yeah, let's take advantage of this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/20 12:40 PM
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So women aren't really actors in society. They're objects acted upon. Why do you think women are so sub sentient?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/02/20 12:38 PM
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Hey barkeep I'll have a... -I've already calculated exactly what you and your descendants will be having for the next ten thousand years. .... Beer -that's correct
/r/MensRights04/02/20 09:54 PM
2

Maybe your bartender?
/r/MensRights04/02/20 09:33 PM
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For fun go back and look at posts in feminists subs on this topic a year ago v today.
/r/MensRights04/02/20 01:07 PM
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I think she's a perfect representative of first world feminism. Violent, manipulative, toxic, using "victimhood" to abuse others... She's great for telling other countries what feminism offers them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/20 12:52 PM
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That's fair. And in exchange feminists will not expect men to fight any battles for them.
/r/MensRights03/02/20 12:47 PM
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She's raising awareness that men can be abused by women one man at a time.
/r/MensRights03/02/20 12:45 PM
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