Literally there is no part of my men's rights views that has anything against women. And mind you, i tend to be socially liberal so of course i'm not your average mens rights guy. HOWEVER i just wanted to say this.

WHY do feminists say that we hate/objectify/degrade women?

It has literally nothing to do with women. Its fighting for our rights, not taking something away from them that they should have.

It fucking galls me that a small but vocal minority of women are so contemptful of men that they can portray themselves as a majority, therefore saying that we hate women where in fact we just hate being objectified and shat on? I suspect a lot more women than you think would agree with us.

I'm not a red pill MRA, i generally think women should of course have the SAME rights. Both genders are opressed in some ways, but equally. We already have equality, equally being fukked over by society.

My point is that there is literally nothing contemptful of women in Mens rights. We just fucking want equality, and "women" aren't the problem in any way shape or form. A small majority of Radical feminists are.

What radical feminists call "toxic masculinity" can also be attributed to the ludicrous standards imposed by women. Any man shorter than 6 feet is ugly in their book, and they say that that's ok while men liking attractive women (but not hating unattractive ones) isn't . AND I BELIEVE THAT UNATTRACTIVE WOMEN SHOULD HAVE RIGHTS TOO. Radical feminists manufacture arguments like that when none exists. WE DONT DISAGREE WITH YOU WE BOTH WANT EQUALITY. I differ from a lot of MRAs by not believing that traditional "masculinity" is good. It isn't. But radical feminists blame these outrageous standards on men, when they put those on us. To them, It's ok for women to be fat, but men can't have a small penis.

It's ok for women to mock a man for being "short (5 foot 11)", but we cant turn down someone we actually find unattractive even when we do it politely.

WE DONT DISAGREE WITH MOST WOMEN, THERE IS LITERALLY NO CONTEMPT FOR WOMEN HERE.

Pardon my rant.