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Sir Cliff Richard's call for anonymity in sex offence arrests would ‘cause significant harm to victims’

UsedCommunication

July 1, 2019
19 upvotes
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/cliff-richard-sex-offense-anonymity-victims-offenders-arrests-paul-gambaccini-stephen-fry-a8982996.html?utm_source=reddit.com
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Title Sir Cliff Richard's call for anonymity in sex offence arrests would ‘cause significant harm to victims’
Author

UsedCommunication

Upvotes 19
Comments 8
Date July 1, 2019 3:37 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/c7u2or/sir_cliff_richards_call_for_anonymity_in_sex/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/sir-cliff-richards-call-for-anonymity-in-sex.874402
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Comments

[–]lostapwbm 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Victims

Isn't that for the trier of fact to determine?

In an open letter to Sir Cliff and Mr Gambaccini, the End Violence Against Women Coalition said false allegations were no higher for sexual offences than other crimes and “our big problem is the enormous reluctance victims have to report attacks”.

So putting innocent men in prison is okay so long as all of the 'rapists' are caught?

Blackstone is doing somersaults in his grave at the state of English law.

In an open letter, a group representing victims called on backers to reconsider their campaign and “prevent significant harm to survivors of abuse across the UK and the legal process”.

Such as?

“The harm that those who are accused and acquitted feel is, we believe, a result not of the fact of being named but of terrible media representation of sexual violence cases, accompanied by a collective failure to uphold the presumption of innocence,” wrote Sarah Green and Rachel Krys, co-directors of the End Violence Against Women Coalition.

The letter questioned why anonymity should be legally guaranteed before charge for sexual offences, but not for other severe crimes such as murder.

Aren't these the same people who shriek loudly about 'whataboutism'? (which is usually only raised when you point out that feminists are, at best, inconsistent in the application of their 'principles' and at worst, outright bigoted)

But I'll take a bite. There should be no anonymity for either the accused or the complaining witness because that treads perilously close to de facto 'secret trials.'

[–]NeverTrustAVaJayJay 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think they meant to say “victims”. You need the “”

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The victims are the falsely accused men. This will help them.

[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The victims are the falsely accused men.

Feminism denies that such a thing exists.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism is a systematic denial of all common sense in favor of wishful thinking.

[–]chadwickofwv 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is a systematic denial of all common sense in favor of wishful thinking hate and bigotry.

TFTFY

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Victims’ groups have warned a campaign led by Sir Cliff Richard and Paul Gambaccini to ban naming suspected sex offenders unless they are prosecuted could cause “significant harm”.

The celebrities have launched a petition calling for the government to change the law to “protect the reputations of all innocent suspects, whether well-known or not, from the lasting stigma of a false sexual allegation”.

It passed 10,000 signatures on Monday afternoon and will receive a government response, while 100,000 would trigger a parliamentary debate.

In an open letter to Sir Cliff and Mr Gambaccini, the End Violence Against Women Coalition said false allegations were no higher for sexual offences than other crimes and “our big problem is the enormous reluctance victims have to report attacks”.

It's hard to see how basic justice like this could happen in the UK, but I'm really hoping that it can.

[–]rahsoft 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

simple response to the independent

NO IT WOULDN'T

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stop virtue signalling to sell your rag...

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