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Pelosi on Trump: 'It's like a manhood thing for him. As if manhood could ever be associated with him. This wall thing,' Pelosi privately told House Democrats. And switch the genders!

furchfur

January 1, 2019

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6545215/Trump-finally-invites-leaders-parties-White-House-asks-make-deal.html

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Title	Pelosi on Trump: 'It's like a manhood thing for him. As if manhood could ever be associated with him. This wall thing,' Pelosi privately told House Democrats. And switch the genders!
Author	furchfur
Upvotes	5
Comments	3
Date	January 1, 2019 9:49 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/abme1i/pelosi_on_trump_its_like_a_manhood_thing_for_him/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/pelosi-on-trump-its-like-a-manhood-thing-for-him.887338 https://theredarchive.com/post/887338

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[+]Jerk_off_now1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree with Pelosi. Trump has a toxic and fragile form of masculinity that is rooted in some form of mental illness. She shouldnt be citing gender norms as a weapon of argument but its hard to defend Trumps wall psychosis

[–]Thr0w4w4y757746 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]azazelcrowley -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree in sentiment but the term toxic masculinity shouldn't be used. It is an example of the deliberate sabotage of mens discourse feminists have engaged in, like the rape culture term that was originally used to describe male prisons until they spammed it everywhere to appropriate the meaning.

Toxic masculinity was originally used by the mythopoetic mens movement to describe a masculinity that arises from a lack of meaningful male relationships. They have utterly deformed the term through deliberate malice. It's a common observation from everyone except feminist hate mongers that the traits associated with toxic masculinity are more common in children without father figures. Yet to hear feminists talk about it it's something men learn from men, this because their worldview is based on viewing men as the source of all evil in society, something that women are only ever infected by and not a source of at all.

The traits of toxic masculinity arise from a "shallow" masculinity according to the mythopoetic mens movement, and the term was only ever used to contrast it with "deep" masculinity formed through male bonds, a contrast feminists never use because they view all masculinity with hate and suspicion, and the notion of male bonds being positive is anaethamae to their paranoid belief that male spaces, organizations, and relationships are the source of the problems. The metaphor is used to imply that the less positive male bonds, the more shallow the masculinity, that each one adds "depth".

The feminists could not adopt that rhetoric because it runs counter to their agenda to paint masculinity in a solely negative light in order to assist their attempts to marginalize, demonize, and vilify men, while pathologizing their behavior and mindsets. The notion that "More" masculinity is a good thing is not something they were ever prepared to concede.

Occasionally the scum will point out they're merely using the term we invented because they think it's a good one. They don't do that so much anymore, but they used to. This is why that was only ever an insincere deflection of their misuse of it.