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Yet another initiative about FGM, ignoring MGM

pteawesome1

September 8, 2018
20 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/health/u-s-u-k-step-up-co-operation-against-female-genital-mutilation-officials-1.4083644
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Title Yet another initiative about FGM, ignoring MGM
Author

pteawesome1

Upvotes 20
Comments 14
Date September 8, 2018 1:58 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9e4ixc/yet_another_initiative_about_fgm_ignoring_mgm/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/yet-another-initiative-about-fgm-ignoring-mgm.894561
https://theredarchive.com/post/894561
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Comments

[–]Hadashi_blacksky 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's going in the upcoming menarehuman.com circumcision article. In the section about boys dying from MGM.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Unless those numbers are at the very least equal percentage-wise to FGM-related deaths that argument might backfire.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure that accurate numbers for either one are hard to come by. Unfortunately the comparison always seems to be between backwoods African FGM and circumcision in American hospitals. No one ever seems to mention that African circumcision is also a thing, done to adolescent boys in equally unsanitary conditions to FGM. There have been hundreds if not thousands of deaths and amputations in South Africa alone, but it gets almost zero international attention compared to FGM. Links about African circumcision deaths:

https://ulwaluko.co.za/Home.html

http://www.ticotimes.net/2015/07/21/32-boys-dead-in-south-african-initiation-season

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/10073918/33-men-die-in-South-African-circumcision-ceremonies.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2995181/

[–]Hadashi_blacksky 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks a lot, both of you. I will bear that in mind

[–]Hadashi_blacksky 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's going in the upcoming menarehuman.com circumcision article.

[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive -- https://archive.is/bYVg1

[–]Artemis663 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

http://womenswellnessinstitute.com/blog/labiaplasty-fastest-growing-cosmetic-surgery-survey-finds/

If labiaplasty is the largest growing sector for teenagers, why not snip off the uneven flaps at birth, like they do to boys?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the labia minora are really small during infancy and childhood and only change during or after puberty so that wouldn't work

[+]Gerard_the_Bunny1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

If you have two injured people, one of which has lost their finger and the other has had a leg cut off, which one are you going to be more concerned about?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

False equivalency. Also knowing where you're going with this.. men die during circumcision outside of hospitals and have long term injuries just as women do. The important issue is MGM is practiced in developed countries as well as undeveloped. The side issue is preferential focus and treatment on women and ignoring the boys also impacted.

[+]Gerard_the_Bunny1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm not intending it to sound like mgm isn't a big deal, only that it really doesn't do the damage fgm does. Fgm takes almost all sexual sensation and causes lasting pain and damage, not to mention the fact that it's normally done at a much older age and without any pain killers or anesthetic. The amount of damage would be equal to having a male's head of the penis removed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Except it's pretty much just as damaging. Links about African circumcision deaths:

https://ulwaluko.co.za/Home.html

http://www.ticotimes.net/2015/07/21/32-boys-dead-in-south-african-initiation-season

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/10073918/33-men-die-in-South-African-circumcision-ceremonies.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2995181/

[+]Gerard_the_Bunny1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Again not saying it's not damaging just that it doesn't take away the same amount fgm does. A woman can feel almost nothing sexually without her clitoris and fgm kills more than it does men. I really really don't mean this to sound like I'm saying mgm isn't bad because it absolutely is all I mean is that fgm does do more long lasting damage for its survivors.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Someone didn't read studies and is just falling back on feminist narrative

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