The Gender Paradox of the Nordic Welfare State

Preumd · 2018-06-12T11:13:24+00:00

I'm having a difficult time understanding what she's trying to argue.

Now, gender equality and women in executive positions are not the only goods in life, and it could well be that children, mothers, and possibly even fathers, are better off with more family time and respite from the frenzied work-and-spend treadmill endured by many two-career families in the United States. Media reports tend to show Scandinavians to be fairly content with their lot.

Possibly even fathers are better off being able to spend more time with their kids? You don't say!

The impact is especially powerful for women with high incomes before parenthood. They face lower monthly incomes, lower hourly wages, and slower rates of income growth than before they had children in all these places, with the effects lasting at least 10 years.

What's the problem here? They have lower incomes because their husbands are working more and they're spending more time with their kids. It's a trade off. At least fathers there get relatively more time with their children. If I'm not mistaken Denmark even introduced default shared parenting recently.

The idea that "gender equality" can only be reached by men and women earning the exact same amount of money is moronic. Even more moronic is to pretend that women are the aggrieved party when they're being subsidized by their husbands.

There is plenty of room to criticize Norway from a men's rights perspective (eg their attempts to get 40 percent female executives, which will fail just like their attempt to get more women in engineering -- hopefully they'll learn from these mistakes). But frankly with the exception of Sweden the average man in Scandinavia seems to have a pretty good deal. Western men are stuck with a brutal mix of harshly enforced traditional gender roles and radical feminist onslaught.

thrway_1000 · 2018-06-12T14:02:24+00:00

Choices and their consequences should be ignored, so sayith the feminists.

Archive -- https://archive.is/E5wbf

2018-06-12T13:20:17+00:00

Any group that goes by an initialism where one of the initials stands for "family" usually spends the bulk of its efforts shitting on gay people and women at the behest of a cultural (usually Christian) conservative agenda.

IFS is not the exception.

There's no "paradox" here. It just tells us what we already know: differences in gender advancement are primarily a function of having kids slowing down the careers of women more than men, and that if maternal leave is too long it can slow down a woman's career.

Title	The Gender Paradox of the Nordic Welfare State
Author	Ted8367
Upvotes	20
Comments	5
Date	June 12, 2018 10:55 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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