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Watch – The Normalization of Male Violence in ‘Civilized’ Society

omegaphallic

June 27, 2017
13 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://deadwildroses.wordpress.com/2017/06/27/watch-the-normalization-of-male-violence-in-civilized-society/
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Title Watch – The Normalization of Male Violence in ‘Civilized’ Society
Author

omegaphallic

Upvotes 13
Comments 21
Date June 27, 2017 1:39 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6jsqef/watch_the_normalization_of_male_violence_in/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/watch-the-normalization-of-male-violence-in.919432
https://theredarchive.com/post/919432
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Comments

[–]HeForeverBleeds 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is it so common to ask random strangers about murderers, and get quotes about how they’re “nice” and “caring”...Articles like this highlight the systemic, societal based normative attitudes that we are bathed in. Male violence is looked on in a sympathetic light

These people are delusional morons

"Day-care worker who raped toddlers on video actually a 'charming young lady'"

"Woman spared jail for glassing teacher in the face because she’s a 'decent member of society'"

"Paedophile sisters who abused boy, 6, for over a decade dodge prison after judge says they would be 'too isolated'"

"Oxford student who stabbed her boyfriend could be spared jail because she has 'extraordinary' talent"

I don't known what strange parallel universe this dumb bitch lives in, but sympathy for violent predators sure as fuck has nothing to do with male violence

[–]omegaphallic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the two dudes case I'm willing to give a pass, their mom and sister we're murdered by their dad, so yeah that is bound to fuck someone up, and I feel for them and their pain, but DWR, fuck no, she's just a viscous man hater who hates trans people simply for having a connection to the male sex.

[–]omegaphallic[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dead Wildroses is a massive man hater, and Terf, look how she peddled the falsehood that society is some how, okay with men murdering their wife and daughter.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://archive.is/CLQ5H

[–]Manlyministry 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Imagine the abuse a man would have to go through to kill his wife and daughter.

Imagine years of the emotional abuse they would have heaped on him.

Why did the wife and daughter leave? There was no mention from the sons of violence. Was it perhaps the wife felt unfulfilled as 80% of divorce requests reveal?

What did those females do to push an average, affable and popular man to make him want to murder them?

Nobody questions the behaviour of the females. What if they drove him to do it? Would the victim not be the perfectly nice man who has had his life destroyed by his wife and daughter?

We need to look I to the causes of domestic violence and not the results of it

[–]omegaphallic[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

All of that is pure speculation, seriously acting like an apologist for a guy that killed his wife and daughter is more damaging to the MRM then DWR, we don't know any psychological abuse from his wife and daughter against him, unless you know something I don't know?

[–]Manlyministry 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/692463/lance-hart-murder-wife-daughter

By the sounds of it, the man was devastated that his wife had out of the blue decided to leave him and also try to rip him off in the division of proceeds.

It also seems that the family did in fact conspire behind his back, as he said in his siucide note.

He also says that they bickered often, but not excessively. As we know males tend to downplay instances of domestic abuse and women exaggerate instances greatly, we can assume that the wife was probably a bitch.

Far too many people have spoken kindly about him to take the families word that he is so horrible.

Men who commit suicide normally do so because of mental illness, caught out in paedophilia or are facing financial ruin. The man at the age of 55 has his life ruined, has lost everything and killed himself, taking out the two people whom were completely responsible for his financial ruin.

It's a terrible thing to happen, but had all of his family not literally conspire behind his back knowing it would ruin him, those females would still be alive.

I condemning the murder, but I also condemning the behaviours of others which led to the murders. Had they not been so horrible to him, he would not have been so horrible to them

[–]omegaphallic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

"Far too many people have spoken kindly about him to take the families word that he is so horrible."

There are plenty of people who have charming personalities and yet are abusive in their personal relationships.

And yeah maybe the wife was being a huge dick in the divorce, but you don't fucking murder people over it, especially his daughter.

It just hands feminists material to defend a murder like that, there are, plenty, of none murdering men who are suffering under unfair divorce laws to defend, let's pick our battles with some wisdom.

[–]Manlyministry 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Who says I'm defending a murder?

I find it astounding that under no circumstances should the female and the behaviour of the sons be questioned? Nobody thinks that maybe it's the terrible behaviour of all of his family who caused the tragedy.

The man did a terrible thing to his horrible wife and daughter. But just maybe had the wife and daughter not been so mean to him he wouldn't have killed them.

U can attack me all you want, but I'm still going to look at the story right down the middle and tell u who was at fault. Had those females had any idea that their actions would have resulted in their murder, they would have chosen a diffent method to deal with it. As they did not, it's actually the females who drove him to the murders. Had he not been driven by their evil ways, the murders wouldn't have happened.

[–]omegaphallic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You pointing at the two women and suggesting they caused this, many people will see that as Dec being a murder.

[–]Manlyministry 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well, by the looks of the press and the nice things that many have said about the man, i don't really care what anyone else really thinks. If it was a man killing another man and his son who tried to screw him over, there would certainly be a discussion as to where the blame actually lay. I see no reason not to have the same discussion about the females.

[–]omegaphallic[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The blame lays with the murderer, like it always does. There smarter battles to fight, nice men fucked over by divorce, not this, trust me on that, in life you gave to know when to pick your battles, wisely.

[–]Manlyministry 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Personally, I'm not picking any battles. I'm just voicing my opinion. I see no problem with blaming the 2 females murders at their feet. An action needs an opposite and equal reaction.

The females destroyed his life, he destroyed theirs.

He was totally wrong in what he did, and I mean totally totally wrong. But there was a reason why it was dome. The lesson is to be learned from the reason for the crime, not the crime itself.

If we don't take all the lessons we learn, we are doomed to repeat history.

And to be honest at this point, there are like 7 billion people on the planet. I really am not bothered if a couple of bitches got taken out by someone they fucked over. If they didn't have respect for his life, why in the fuck should he or I give a shit about theirs.

Honestly!!!! Who in their right mind would piss off someone so badly the at he kills them?!? The victim is the man. The women are revenge killings

[–]omegaphallic[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I have nothing to add, I can see nothing positive is emerging from this conversation, and to be honest I don't know what else to say.

[–]Manlyministry 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Ps... Who cares what gets handed to feminists? If every hetero man just stood up and said 'men don't kill their wives and daughters for no reason! News so far clearly says he was not mentally disabled, so what was the reason?'

The reason the crime occurred was because of female deceitful behaviour. That is the material you hand the feminists. 2 more of their ranks are dead because they were horrible bitches and drove a man to kill them. If females will stop being horrible to thier partners, fewer will be killed.

I don't have to say that all men who kill women are not victims to be a mens rights activist! I can fight for my rights and fight for the rights of other men not to be driven to crime. All females are not victims. In fact, has these particular females not made a victim out of a man who worked hard all of his life, that por man wouod not be dead right now!

I don't have to care about dead females who are happy to destroy kind men.

[–]omegaphallic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is not the right approach, this will back fire on the MRM, a painful divorce is no excuse to murder people and it will make it harder to get positive change if one is defending murder. There is no excuse for what he did, any more then their is for a woman who does that.

[–]Manlyministry 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude!!!!! Wake up!!!!!

I'm. Not defending his crime. Had he survived he would be in jail for the rest of his life justifiably.

But I'm certainly not going to look at the ENTIRE situation analytically and not lay blame where it needs.

Did the deceitful actions of the wife, daughter and sons cause the man to kill the wife and daughter?.... Yes.

Had they realised what they were doing to the father would result in him murdering them, stopped them from being so deceitful and dishonest from the start?.... Yes

Therfore their deceit directly resulted in their death. The father is guilty of crime but he was the victim of his wife and children's deceit. The victim is the one who retaliates, not the party who is punished. The mother and daughter are victims of a revenge attack that they brought upon themselves solely because of their behaviour and desire to ruin their father/husband.

I'm not here to flower everything to make feminists happy. If females want to be safe in this world, I suggest they not piss men off so much. Happy men don't behave that way.

By not looking at the situation in all its details and laying blame where need be, nobody learns lessons and more wives and children get murdered. It's not my life, so it's not my concern. But I do know not to piss someone off so much that they murder me. These two stupid women were abviously not as clever as myself.

[–]omegaphallic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can say your not defending him, but few other people will see it that way. I've advised you to the best of my ability, but you make your own choices.

[–]Manlyministry 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter what a few other people think just as I'm sure they do not care that I think thier view is too narrow.

I don't need your advice to help me see the true path. You can't see past the females who were shot. I look at why they got shot.

I don't defend him shooting them, I never once said I was glad he did it and that those bitches deserved what they got.

I do question why the crime happened in the first place? I wonder what would possess a perfectly nice yet at times argumentattive man who was super proud of his family and was never violent to his wife or family, to suddenly just kill them?

There is nothing wrong with feeling empathy for a man whose life has just been destroyed willingly by his wife and children. Under the circumstances, I can understand why he decided to extract his revenge in such a way.

You will probably take umbrage with my using the word understand. Just because I understand how someone might have felt doesn't mean I condone their actions.

I am probably one of the only people in the world who will see the lesson to be learned by this very sad tale:

Never upset someone who owns guns to the point that they will kill you. Be honest, fair and upfront. If you are not, they might blow ur fu%king head off.

[–]HotDealsInTexas 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was going to downvote this, but then I realized that this is the exact same rhetoric I see repeated ad nauseum every goddamn time there's a news story about a women murdering a family member.

[–]omegaphallic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, still I deeply regret posting this, it's gone horribly off track and sideways.

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