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Video: The Michelle Carter Moment - Civilized people care about a man's life, the life of Conrad Roy

badon_

June 17, 2017

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWtbqY6OKKA&t=2m30s

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Title	Video: The Michelle Carter Moment - Civilized people care about a man's life, the life of Conrad Roy
Author	badon_
Upvotes	13
Comments	6
Date	June 17, 2017 5:14 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6hrq1k/video_the_michelle_carter_moment_civilized_people/
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[–]badon_[S] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The judge says Michelle Carter is guilty because of 1 single phrase:

Get back in.

Nothing that happened before that mattered, Michelle Carter's defense wins. However, the judge notes Conrad's previous suicide attempts failed because he "literally sought air", and the same thing happened again in his final attempt, and he would have survived it after he got out of the truck. But, Michelle Carter intervened and told him to "get back in". That is the sole reason Conrad Roy died, and it was Michelle Carter who was responsible for it.

The judge says it doesn't matter if Conrad Roy III might have eventually succeeded in suicide, without Michelle Carter. The fact is, Conrad's final suicide attempt was aborted just like his previous suicide attempts, and Michelle Carter's words "get back in" were the sole reason the aborted suicide resumed, and became a successful suicide.

[–]RapeMatters 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]badon_[S] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In the video the judge implies that if she had told him to "get back out", that may have redeemed her of responsibility. But, she didn't say it. Worse, she stayed on the phone and listened for the amount of time she thought would be necessary to kill Conrad, and she did not call for help. He sees that as supporting evidence that she had consciously chosen to take responsibility for his death.

I guess that's pretty much all there is to know about this case. It's so, so, so sad. For everyone involved, including Michelle Carter herself. I feel like I just watched a good person become an evil one, with no way to prevent it from happening. People do stupid things, and I like to think everyone should get a second chance. There won't be a second chance for Conrad, but maybe after the dust settles from this disaster that has become Michelle Carter's life, she can somehow turn lemons to lemonade.

I like to think that the mistakes don't matter, and it's the quest for redemption that ultimately grants it, regardless what has been done - and can never be undone. It's super crappy for someone to be condemned for life so early in life. I suppose the only thing that matters now is what Michelle Carter does after...

I really want to have faith in humanity, and Michelle Carter's conviction is only the first half of it.

[–]RapeMatters 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]badon_[S] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Kuramo 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link